BiblePay | 10% to Orphan-Charity | RANDOMX MINING | Sanctuaries (Masternodes)

[secoccular]

I'm thinking a web page/service,  compares data in semi-real time and gives you a status report.

Thoughts?   Would you use this,  and/or would it help adoption?

Something that shows where you in the process. Checks for various requirements... If met, green check mark. If not met, red X.

Seems like something that could easily break if not maintained. See what happened to biblepay-central.org with a little bit of neglect.

I think that is a good idea. The Sparc website does the same thing. You put in the CPID, a yellow checkmark appears, and then goes green when approved, or turns into a red X if there's a problem. It works really well because it let's you see the process. Even if it's yellow for a few days, at least you know it's still in progress. Makes waiting easier.


They also have a demo mode, to show the process to a prospective cruncher.

http://demo.sparc.network/

[sunk818]

They also have a demo mode, to show the process to a prospective cruncher.

http://demo.sparc.network/

[SVK Noko]

2.

I added a new miner. He is getting rewards already. Of course his CPID is synchronized with wallet. But lets take a look what shows https://biblepay-central.org/en/podc/user/2024825/

It shows:

No CPID - wrong, he has already
No Address - wrong, he has one
No next payment - wrong, pool.biblepay.org shows next payment
No podcupdates - not accessible
No history - wrong, he already got a payment

Websites which are not up to date are throwing bad light on BBP. I wrote this here many times.

https://ubytovani-cechy.cz/tmp/imagepeterk.jpg

Solution: keep BBP official (there is a link from biblepay.org) websites up to date or cancel them completely

[tmike]

2.

I added a new miner. He is getting rewards already. Of course his CPID is synchronized with wallet. But lets take a look what shows https://biblepay-central.org/en/podc/user/2024825/

It shows:

No CPID - wrong, he has already
No Address - wrong, he has one
No next payment - wrong, pool.biblepay.org shows next payment
No podcupdates - not accessible
No history - wrong, he already got a payment

Websites which are not up to date are throwing bad light on BBP. I wrote this here many times.

Solution: keep BBP official (there is a link from biblepay.org) websites up to date or cancel them completely

I think that was a quality site but for some reason it is not maintained anymore. I will talk to the owner and see what's going on. If it continues to be that way I will suggest it be removed from the main BiblePay website.

[username_is_my_name]

It appears that our monthly budget is around 13.5MM BBP

With supporting 100 orphans @ $39/orphan/month, and a CURRENT value of $0.000391 - that means that about $10MM of the $13.5MM (or nearly 75%) of the monthly budget is already spoken for.

Now I don't want to drop the supported count any more than we have, but is it reasonable to think that we can keep making advancements on a development/PR budget of only 3.5MM BBP (or about $1400/month)? That seems like barely enough to make a dent in the development, much less the advertising. I'm...very concerned. Let's brainstorm, what can we do?

[username_is_my_name]

Also, a suggestion. Something that we used to do periodically was make a big deal about how much money had been donated to charity since inception - I think that's great PR. Can we put a running total on the homepage? One of those things that slowly increases (up until our planned for the month, and resets to actual cumulative amount after each superblock)?

We might also be able to consider a "virtual run / hike" or other virtual event and ask for sponsorships from people in the community, with the proceeds going to our orphans - I'm not sure if we need to be a straight up 501(c)3 for that to work though.

[zthomasz]

I wrote exactly what is the problem. Waiting times.

Now that you've identified the problem, what do you propose to fix it? You want instant CPID synchronization and immediate PoDC payment?

I wrote one of the reason why you dont have new miners. Its up to dev if he is going to do something with that or not. I dont care a much after all. If dev thinks everything is ok then issue is closed.

I agree with SVK Noko. It's obvious that the "wait time" needs to be improved. And yes of course the goal should be to have instant/immediate sync and payment if possible. Users/investors LOVE technology that is responsive and easy to use. Users/investors HATE technology that is difficult to use and requires a lot of patience to accomplish the goal.

Most of us aren't devs/programmers, so we can't provide specific instructions on how to fix it. However our job as users/investors is to give honest feedback so developers can develop the solutions.

[thesnat21]

It appears that our monthly budget is around 13.5MM BBP

With supporting 100 orphans @ $39/orphan/month, and a CURRENT value of $0.000391 - that means that about $10MM of the $13.5MM (or nearly 75%) of the monthly budget is already spoken for.

Now I don't want to drop the supported count any more than we have, but is it reasonable to think that we can keep making advancements on a development/PR budget of only 3.5MM BBP (or about $1400/month)? That seems like barely enough to make a dent in the development, much less the advertising. I'm...very concerned. Let's brainstorm, what can we do?

I agree we will cross that bridge when we get to it,  the last superblock (79950) funded just under 6.8mil BBP

This actually seems to be updating on biblepay-central.
https://biblepay-central.org/en/proposals/79950/

I'm not sure what the difference between your calculations and the current cost is,  I will try to find out.
I suspect it is due to the pre-payment from the cancelled sponsorships being applied to the remaining?

Also, a suggestion. Something that we used to do periodically was make a big deal about how much money had been donated to charity since inception - I think that's great PR. Can we put a running total on the homepage? One of those things that slowly increases (up until our planned for the month, and resets to actual cumulative amount after each superblock)?

We might also be able to consider a "virtual run / hike" or other virtual event and ask for sponsorships from people in the community, with the proceeds going to our orphans - I'm not sure if we need to be a straight up 501(c)3 for that to work though.

I agree,  we may have to wait a bit till Jaap gets back from vacation but I can see the benefit.

[thesnat21]

I agree with SVK Noko. It's obvious that the "wait time" needs to be improved. And yes of course the goal should be to have instant/immediate sync and payment if possible. Users/investors LOVE technology that is responsive and easy to use. Users/investors HATE technology that is difficult to use and requires a lot of patience to accomplish the goal.

Most of us aren't devs/programmers, so we can't provide specific instructions on how to fix it. However our job as users/investors is to give honest feedback so developers can develop the solutions.

What we need to work out is options.   

Currently we're tied to a few things syncing  (CPID if using multiple projects,  Nightly Superblock, and stake balance/PODC update).

I believe WCG updates the web stats once a day?  This is another limiting factor...  unless someone can find a way to pull real-time stats.

[zthomasz]

I agree with SVK Noko. It's obvious that the "wait time" needs to be improved. And yes of course the goal should be to have instant/immediate sync and payment if possible. Users/investors LOVE technology that is responsive and easy to use. Users/investors HATE technology that is difficult to use and requires a lot of patience to accomplish the goal.

Most of us aren't devs/programmers, so we can't provide specific instructions on how to fix it. However our job as users/investors is to give honest feedback so developers can develop the solutions.

What we need to work out is options.  

Currently we're tied to a few things syncing  (CPID if using multiple projects,  Nightly Superblock, and stake balance/PODC update).

I believe WCG updates the web stats once a day?  This is another limiting factor...  unless someone can find a way to pull real-time stats.

Thanks. I don't know which web stats would need to be updated or if WCG can provide the real-time info needed.

Here's some info on their API that might help to find out what exact data they provide:

https://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/help/viewTopic.do?shortName=api

[sunk818]

It appears that our monthly budget is around 13.5MM BBP

With supporting 100 orphans @ $39/orphan/month, and a CURRENT value of $0.000391 - that means that about $10MM of the $13.5MM (or nearly 75%) of the monthly budget is already spoken for.

Now I don't want to drop the supported count any more than we have, but is it reasonable to think that we can keep making advancements on a development/PR budget of only 3.5MM BBP (or about $1400/month)? That seems like barely enough to make a dent in the development, much less the advertising. I'm...very concerned. Let's brainstorm, what can we do?

https://www.biblepay.org/donate/
This will show how much was donated. I think this is a home page type of thing, but I'm not the webmaster.

Did the 2nd widows proposal pass? Not sure why we are sponsoring more charities at this time...

[sunk818]

Someone DMed in Telegram asking why her transaction is stuck. Looks like blockchain has not solved the next block for over 6 hours.

[thesnat21]

Someone DMed in Telegram asking why her transaction is stuck. Looks like blockchain has not solved the next block for over 6 hours.

It's being looked at,  will have an update as soon as possible.

[thesnat21]

Update:

looks like we had a bad difficulty run,  the block was solved and chain resumed so no actual issues were encountered.

[sunk818]

November IT Discussions
Created: 10-29-2018
Subject: Parallel Paths for BiblePay - Future IT and Roadmap
By: Rob Andrews - Founder

https://wiki.biblepay.org/November_IT_Discussions

[capulo]

Update:

looks like we had a bad difficulty run,  the block was solved and chain resumed so no actual issues were encountered.

really? podc payment has only 14 confirmations over 8hrs..
and my friends have same problem

[thesnat21]

Update:

looks like we had a bad difficulty run,  the block was solved and chain resumed so no actual issues were encountered.

really? podc payment has only 14 confirmations over 8hrs..
and my friends have same problem

A few issues:
1. a single block took 5hrs to solve
2. a few blocks later it took 1.5hrs

Because of these two delays it will take a bit for the chain to re-set.  The average span for the last 205(1 day) is about 9 minutes.   

This will level off, and the chain will work to get back to the 7min average, we may see faster blocks for a bit,   Currently they are ranging from 2min to 10minute.

[username_is_my_name]

It appears that our monthly budget is around 13.5MM BBP

With supporting 100 orphans @ $39/orphan/month, and a CURRENT value of $0.000391 - that means that about $10MM of the $13.5MM (or nearly 75%) of the monthly budget is already spoken for.

Now I don't want to drop the supported count any more than we have, but is it reasonable to think that we can keep making advancements on a development/PR budget of only 3.5MM BBP (or about $1400/month)? That seems like barely enough to make a dent in the development, much less the advertising. I'm...very concerned. Let's brainstorm, what can we do?

https://www.biblepay.org/donate/
This will show how much was donated. I think this is a home page type of thing, but I'm not the webmaster.

Did the 2nd widows proposal pass? Not sure why we are sponsoring more charities at this time...

Excellent link! I take full responsibility for clearly not looking deep enough in the site. I guess everything can't be on the homepage, and that's ok.

Maybe just a bit of extra promotion around that number is in order then!

[sunk818]

It appears that our monthly budget is around 13.5MM BBP

With supporting 100 orphans @ $39/orphan/month, and a CURRENT value of $0.000391 - that means that about $10MM of the $13.5MM (or nearly 75%) of the monthly budget is already spoken for.

Now I don't want to drop the supported count any more than we have, but is it reasonable to think that we can keep making advancements on a development/PR budget of only 3.5MM BBP (or about $1400/month)? That seems like barely enough to make a dent in the development, much less the advertising. I'm...very concerned. Let's brainstorm, what can we do?

https://www.biblepay.org/donate/
This will show how much was donated. I think this is a home page type of thing, but I'm not the webmaster.

Did the 2nd widows proposal pass? Not sure why we are sponsoring more charities at this time...

Excellent link! I take full responsibility for clearly not looking deep enough in the site. I guess everything can't be on the homepage, and that's ok.

Maybe just a bit of extra promotion around that number is in order then!

If you type

Code:

exec theymos

in version 1.1.5.9 of the wallet you'll get an accountability summary. Last time I checked, the total given to charity was more than $160k USD or (20+ BTC with a rough average price of ~$7k).

[cuarc001]

I agree with SVK Noko. It's obvious that the "wait time" needs to be improved. And yes of course the goal should be to have instant/immediate sync and payment if possible. Users/investors LOVE technology that is responsive and easy to use. Users/investors HATE technology that is difficult to use and requires a lot of patience to accomplish the goal.

Most of us aren't devs/programmers, so we can't provide specific instructions on how to fix it. However our job as users/investors is to give honest feedback so developers can develop the solutions.

What we need to work out is options.  

Currently we're tied to a few things syncing  (CPID if using multiple projects,  Nightly Superblock, and stake balance/PODC update).

I believe WCG updates the web stats once a day?  This is another limiting factor...  unless someone can find a way to pull real-time stats.

Thanks. I don't know which web stats would need to be updated or if WCG can provide the real-time info needed.

Here's some info on their API that might help to find out what exact data they provide:

https://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/help/viewTopic.do?shortName=api

https://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/forums/wcg/viewthread?thread=2024

World Community Grid statistics are updated twice a day. This occurs at 00:00 and 12:00 UTC. This includes all statistics on World Community Grid except for Team Statistics. For BOINC, statistics data is exported 4 times a day at 6 hour intervals. See https://secure.worldcommunitygrid.org/forums/wcg/printpost_post,377053 and stored at the address http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/boinc/stats/

The crontab entry for the export stats update:

16 0,12,18 * * * /usr/local/boinc/scripts/gen_stats.sh
16 6 * * 1,2,4,6 /usr/local/boinc/scripts/gen_stats.sh

This means that the stats are updated every 6 hours EXCEPT on Wednesday and Sunday at 6:16 UTC. It is skipped at that time because that is when our database backup is run. Thus this morning, the job was skipped. I just verified and the 12:16 run of the stats was completed and the stats were updated 1 hour ago (completed at 12:32 UTC)

Team Statistics are updated once a day at 00:00 UTC.

The multiple updates a day will continue as long as the statistics update does not significantly interfere with members use of the site or overall system performance.

Added: BOINC export frequency. - May 6, 2009
Added: Export crontab schedule info. - May 9, 2012
Added: Export store address statistics data - May 14, 2012