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October 09, 2013, 10:23:08 PM
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I still think it would be a wise move to halt all trading for LRM. We can sell the stock until nov.1st. So, if thousands of shares get sold at .07 that means my shares that were worth .15 wont be worth as much when he gets onto another site. IF I spent only .07, i would be happy to sell at .10, if i did that, I would be taking a huge loss.

I know Im coming off a whining, etc but this is a bad, long term situation for the bonds.. The only way to combat it is to buy as many cheap stocks as I can, but i cant since im in the usa. I could work with someone or go around the VPN route.

Bitfunder should have made it both ways. In the USA you can't BUY nor SELL.  Or since the company is based in the usa halted all trading because its a USA company.. Something doesnt seem right.. I think the guy who started this is using it to his/her advantage.. the whole way this has been handled is terrible..
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October 09, 2013, 10:28:49 PM
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Its a bit worrying that Ukyo hasnt been seen since 02 Oct and he has missed 3 days payments from his ukyo loan.

He has either been abducted by the CIA and is now in gitmo or cant handle the music and is getting drunk on a beach somewhere...
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October 09, 2013, 10:31:04 PM
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I still think it would be a wise move to halt all trading for LRM. We can sell the stock until nov.1st. So, if thousands of shares get sold at .07 that means my shares that were worth .15 wont be worth as much when he gets onto another site. IF I spent only .07, i would be happy to sell at .10, if i did that, I would be taking a huge loss.

I know Im coming off a whining, etc but this is a bad, long term situation for the bonds.. The only way to combat it is to buy as many cheap stocks as I can, but i cant since im in the usa. I could work with someone or go around the VPN route.

Bitfunder should have made it both ways. In the USA you can't BUY nor SELL.  Or since the company is based in the usa halted all trading because its a USA company.. Something doesnt seem right.. I think the guy who started this is using it to his/her advantage.. the whole way this has been handled is terrible..

Agree 100%.  Its no longer a level playing field, and ripe for abuse.

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October 09, 2013, 10:32:33 PM
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Its a bit worrying that Ukyo hasnt been seen since 02 Oct and he has missed 3 days payments from his ukyo loan.

He has either been abducted by the CIA and is now in gitmo or cant handle the music and is getting drunk on a beach somewhere...

Wouldn't it be ironic that he is one of the silk road arrests that they are making around the world... I've heard that hundreds of arrests are taking place in almost every country...(Then you would know where the loans went to and how they were paid back, lol) I hope thats not the case but its a possibility...
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October 09, 2013, 10:39:07 PM
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Now do I panic sell for a 30% loss or wait it out.... 
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October 09, 2013, 10:41:41 PM
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Wouldn't it be ironic that he is one of the silk road arrests that they are making around the world... I've heard that hundreds of arrests are taking place in almost every country...(Then you would know where the loans went to and how they were paid back, lol) I hope thats not the case but its a possibility...
Okay, now I'm wondering what his bus factor is.
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October 09, 2013, 10:46:19 PM
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Now do I panic sell for a 30% loss or wait it out.... 

You don' t mean LRM bonds do you? I assume its Yuko bonds, or whatever his name is, that you want to sell... It depends on how much you have and your risk factor.. Something isn't right... this whole thing was handled poorly at best. I personally wouldn't hold any stock that the owner of bitfunder runs, thats for sure.. He sounds like a crook....
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October 09, 2013, 10:54:02 PM
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My spider sense is tingling on this.

I don't think he is a crook but he must be under a lot of stress
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October 09, 2013, 10:56:44 PM
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Now do I panic sell for a 30% loss or wait it out.... 

You don' t mean LRM bonds do you? I assume its Yuko bonds, or whatever his name is, that you want to sell... It depends on how much you have and your risk factor.. Something isn't right... this whole thing was handled poorly at best. I personally wouldn't hold any stock that the owner of bitfunder runs, thats for sure.. He sounds like a crook....

But how much safer is anything that is on Bitfunder? Do LabRat and the other asset owners keep an up to date list of holdings? I really doubt that closing an exchange can be done in a civilized way without the cooperation of the manager of the exchange. (I would not even call "civilized" what has happened so far...)
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October 09, 2013, 10:59:31 PM
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The asset list is public so lab_Rat can take a copy when the asset is pulled.  He should also take a daily snapshot in case the domain is ceased.
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October 09, 2013, 11:01:30 PM
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I know of a few people that take daily snapshots, mmerlin are you listening? getting a copy shouldn't be hard. heck, ill go make one right now...
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October 09, 2013, 11:09:32 PM
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The asset list is public so lab_Rat can take a copy when the asset is pulled.  He should also take a daily snapshot in case the domain is ceased.

You are right. He should and he can. But does he? And do the other asset owners? I am sure that many people have regular copies. But those are not authentic. And also daily snapshots are not enough to identify the latest trades. So I agree that we probably have something but it is far from being bullet proof.
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October 09, 2013, 11:10:47 PM
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i just made an excel copy just now..
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October 09, 2013, 11:21:31 PM
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I know of a few people that take daily snapshots, mmerlin are you listening? getting a copy shouldn't be hard. heck, ill go make one right now...

Haha, yes I am listening, but am sadly too busy to get involved in lengthy debates, I can just about manage to read, but that is all at the moment.

Yes, snapshots are being taken, by me and many others. Assets won't be lost, don't sweat y'all!
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October 09, 2013, 11:44:37 PM
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The asset list is public so lab_Rat can take a copy when the asset is pulled.  He should also take a daily snapshot in case the domain is ceased.
I've been pulling a copy of the assetlist every 10 minutes for a couple of weeks now.  Smiley  I'd post the URL, but it's at 225M and growing, and I don't want to abuse my home internet connection...  Smiley



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October 09, 2013, 11:52:53 PM
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The asset list is public so lab_Rat can take a copy when the asset is pulled.  He should also take a daily snapshot in case the domain is ceased.
I've been pulling a copy of the assetlist every 10 minutes for a couple of weeks now.  Smiley  I'd post the URL, but it's at 225M and growing, and I don't want to abuse my home internet connection...  Smiley

Actually, if someone has the bandwidth, and wants to open a directory up to me with ssh access, I can dump it there for public consumption.  I checked with Ukyo, and he had no issues with it.

10 minute copies of the JSON assetlist, digitally signed with a GPG key....


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October 10, 2013, 12:08:56 AM
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The asset list is public so lab_Rat can take a copy when the asset is pulled.  He should also take a daily snapshot in case the domain is ceased.
I've been pulling a copy of the assetlist every 10 minutes for a couple of weeks now.  Smiley  I'd post the URL, but it's at 225M and growing, and I don't want to abuse my home internet connection...  Smiley

Actually, if someone has the bandwidth, and wants to open a directory up to me with ssh access, I can dump it there for public consumption.  I checked with Ukyo, and he had no issues with it.

10 minute copies of the JSON assetlist, digitally signed with a GPG key....


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I can stick a copy of it in the public folder of my Dropbox for a bit, or can provide a download link hosted elsewhere. I won't be able to make them live copies though, but if people just want what you have now posted I could do that... Not sure I really see the point though.

Also, have you tried zipping it up?! I haven't actually run the numbers but 225M seems v. big, and it's very un-dense information wise, so would probably zip down to nothing...
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October 10, 2013, 12:11:30 AM
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Okay, put your tin-foil hats on, lol...

Think about it.. SR get taken down around Oct 1 or 2nd.. Yukyo doesn't show up since then.. They are busting people all over the world that had connections with SR. then Bitfunder just puts the "gone out of biz" sign just fo us residents.. Something smells here.. my tin foil hat tells me that something else is going with him.. I know im being paranoid, but what if?

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October 10, 2013, 12:17:53 AM
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Okay, put your tin-foil hats on, lol...

Think about it.. SR get taken down around Oct 1 or 2nd.. Yukyo doesn't show up since then.. They are busting people all over the world that had connections with SR. then Bitfunder just puts the "gone out of biz" sign just fo us residents.. Something smells here.. my tin foil hat tells me that something else is going with him.. I know im being paranoid, but what if?
Other than the fact that he's been (occasionally) in his IRC channel over the last couple of days....

And it's "Ukyo".


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October 10, 2013, 12:21:57 AM
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Okay, never mind..just  a thought, lol.....
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