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Author Topic: [XPM] [ANN] Primecoin Release - First Scientific Computing Cryptocurrency  (Read 688800 times)
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August 07, 2013, 11:11:38 AM
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@July 14th, massive botnet  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

No this is when it pass to the next chain lenght (ie: from 7 to 8 ).
Difficulty is not linear !
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August 07, 2013, 12:34:19 PM
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@July 14th, massive botnet  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

No this is when it pass to the next chain lenght (ie: from 7 to 8 ).
Difficulty is not linear !

No? I'm talking about a known one that went online near that date  Cheesy Cheesy Wink

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August 07, 2013, 12:54:21 PM
Last edit: August 07, 2013, 01:50:25 PM by bidji29
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Can someone post his conf file?
I can't connect to the network with my server.

EDIT : I'm finally connected. Chainsperday seems very high to me.
It's on a VPS with 32-core

Code:
"blocks" : 103357,
    "chainspermin" : 36,
    "chainsperday" : 3.65652542,
    "currentblocksize" : 1000,
    "currentblocktx" : 0,
    "difficulty" : 9.52254599,
    "errors" : "",
    "generate" : true,
    "genproclimit" : -1,
    "roundsievepercentage" : 70,
    "primespersec" : 7615,
    "pooledtx" : 0,
    "sievepercentage" : 10,
    "sievesize" : 1000000,
    "testnet" : false

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August 07, 2013, 06:37:26 PM
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I have also been working on some charting for Primecoin. It's pretty crude so far but a detailed zoomable graph on the difficulty can be found here:

http://192.241.170.170/

The bar at the bottom lets you adjust the data the graph displays, just grab the handles at either end and drag inward. It takes a few seconds to load as it downloads all the diff data up to a few hours ago. I'll fix it so that it only loads enough data for the current zoom and updates the data in real time later.

Let me know what you think.
I'm getting a blank page with an error in Chrome's developer console:
Uncaught Error: NotFoundError: DOM Exception 8 (dygraph-combined.js:2)

EDIT:
Running Chrome 28.0.1500.95 m, Win8 x64

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August 07, 2013, 07:22:08 PM
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I have also been working on some charting for Primecoin. It's pretty crude so far but a detailed zoomable graph on the difficulty can be found here:
http://192.241.170.170/
[...]
I'm getting a blank page with an error in Chrome's developer console:
Uncaught Error: NotFoundError: DOM Exception 8 (dygraph-combined.js:2)

EDIT:
Running Chrome 28.0.1500.95 m, Win8 x64
No problem here. It takes a few seconds until the graph appears.
(Chrome 29)

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August 07, 2013, 08:00:07 PM
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I have also been working on some charting for Primecoin. It's pretty crude so far but a detailed zoomable graph on the difficulty can be found here:
http://192.241.170.170/
[...]
I'm getting a blank page with an error in Chrome's developer console:
Uncaught Error: NotFoundError: DOM Exception 8 (dygraph-combined.js:2)

EDIT:
Running Chrome 28.0.1500.95 m, Win8 x64
No problem here. It takes a few seconds until the graph appears.
(Chrome 29)

Works for me on win 7 with 28.0.1500.95 m. Might be a win 8 issue.
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August 07, 2013, 09:44:20 PM
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XPM is looking red hot Cool
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August 07, 2013, 10:01:52 PM
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Latest charts here:

http://lyddit.blogspot.fi/2013/08/one-month-of-primecoin.html

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August 07, 2013, 10:04:06 PM
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logarithmic scale on the difficulty chart might be interesting
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August 07, 2013, 10:15:08 PM
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logarithmic scale on the difficulty chart might be interesting

Not really, just makes everything look more flat.

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August 07, 2013, 10:19:48 PM
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logarithmic scale on the difficulty chart might be interesting

Not really, just makes everything look more flat.

Yes, as a previous poster mentioned the difficulty isn't a linear measurement, so my hope with the logarithmic scale was to compensate for that. I guess that would be a natural log scale (base e, not 10).  Grin
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August 08, 2013, 12:33:55 AM
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is it data missing in those drops at the 9+ diff, and the way its rising now is it chain length or GPU miners

the diff is exponential, but something is just eating through that.....making it look linear...!


or is that the latest hp release

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August 08, 2013, 12:53:57 AM
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CryptoCoin explorer Primecoin update:

Phase two of testing the new explorer design has begun.

http://cryptocoinexplorer2.com:5555

This version has all (I Hope Cheesy),the logic issues from test version one fixed and working for the basic explorer.

The address page is still limited to the running balance of the address. However, test version 3 is already well under way and it will have the full transaction history of the address available along with the "spent output' field on the transaction page. The search system should be in place (At most by test version 3.5), but manual searching can be done by simply observing the url addresses a bit and placing your own values in place of the explorer generated values in the url.

Test version 4 is slated to incorporate most of the 'frills' features on the Homepage of the explorer.

Test version 5 will be in the incorporation of the API.
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August 08, 2013, 07:09:28 AM
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logarithmic scale on the difficulty chart might be interesting

Not really, just makes everything look more flat.

Yes, as a previous poster mentioned the difficulty isn't a linear measurement, so my hope with the logarithmic scale was to compensate for that. I guess that would be a natural log scale (base e, not 10).  Grin

If the data is already a sort of log-measurement, then doing another log-scale would just be doubling it up.
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August 08, 2013, 07:19:17 AM
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We know the diff is not linear.
But it seems when we go to a new integer, the difficulty is lower.
Whit x.95 is more difficult than x+1.  (8,95 more difficult than 9)

Is this right?

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August 08, 2013, 08:15:51 AM
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We know the diff is not linear.
But it seems when we go to a new integer, the difficulty is lower.
Whit x.95 is more difficult than x+1.  (8,95 more difficult than 9)

Is this right?

It should not be but it probably is.

In my understanding, a block should be valid if the length of its chain is either greater than the current difficulty, or its chain length is equal to the integer part of the current difficulty and the fractional bits part (I don't know exactly how that is determined) is greater than the fractional part of the difficulty.
So at difficulty 9.5, every block with a chain length of 10 or more should be accepted, and approximately half of the length 9 blocks should be accepted.

However, my intuition is that the difficulty graph with its sharp increases whenever an integral difficulty value has been reached implies that the fractional bits are being considered even when the chain length is greater than the difficulty.
Maybe someone could look at the source to see how it's actually done (I'm at work right now and can't do it, and when I last looked at the source I found this fractional part business really confusing and skipped it.)

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August 08, 2013, 12:29:46 PM
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We know the diff is not linear.
But it seems when we go to a new integer, the difficulty is lower.
Whit x.95 is more difficult than x+1.  (8,95 more difficult than 9)

Is this right?

It should not be but it probably is.

In my understanding, a block should be valid if the length of its chain is either greater than the current difficulty, or its chain length is equal to the integer part of the current difficulty and the fractional bits part (I don't know exactly how that is determined) is greater than the fractional part of the difficulty.
So at difficulty 9.5, every block with a chain length of 10 or more should be accepted, and approximately half of the length 9 blocks should be accepted.

However, my intuition is that the difficulty graph with its sharp increases whenever an integral difficulty value has been reached implies that the fractional bits are being considered even when the chain length is greater than the difficulty.
Maybe someone could look at the source to see how it's actually done (I'm at work right now and can't do it, and when I last looked at the source I found this fractional part business really confusing and skipped it.)

Onkel Paul


From the design paper:
http://ppcoin.org/static/primecoin-paper.pdf

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Let k be the prime chain length. The prime chain is p0, p1, …, pk-1. Let r be the Fermat
test remainder of the next number in chain pk. Now pk/r is used to measure the
difficulty of the chain. Even though the distribution of r/pk is not strictly uniform, but
experiments have shown that the difficulty adjustment behavior is reasonably good in
practice. The prime chain length is then computed with a fractional length part:

d = k + (pk-r)/pk

Note if pk passes probable primality tests then it should be considered as a chain of
higher integral length.

A continuous length target adjustment is employed with similar features to the difficulty
adjustment in ppcoin (King 2012). Length target is stepped up or down through integral
boundaries during length target adjustment, at fixed step-up/step-down threshold of
255/256 <-> 1.

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August 12, 2013, 05:52:36 PM
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If you can, please run a public (open port accessible from the outside) of Primecoin.
I think that will all the solo mining, there are a lot of nodes, but not enough public nodes.
I have around 1000 connections total for only running 4 public nodes, it's pretty crazy.

Ouch, maybe should restart the daemon every once in a while. I haven't tried to limit anything and this is what I have.

"connections" : 40,
"connections" : 16,
"connections" : 37,
"connections" : 20,
"connections" : 55,

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August 12, 2013, 08:00:23 PM
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XPM is still a trend.

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August 12, 2013, 08:03:09 PM
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Difficulty increase as clearly been slowing down for the past 48h clearly showing that the number of blocks found is lowering (as most of us miners sadly experienced).
Only = +0.01888007 which is ridiculous compared to what we were used to see that was around +0.07 a day if not more.  The lowering started around 08/08. Lyddite  will surelly have a nice graph for us :)

This is resulting in a huge increase in price which is great for us miners having to cope with lower and lower blocks each days especially since the last 48h.

I was about to close my little farm, might keep it up a little more...
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