[ANN] profit switching auto-exchanging pool - www.middlecoin.com

[Chello]

Yes, using a ASIC miner :-). Got 4 of them.

Your nick fits perfect - lot of mimimi in your posts:)

1. you ask for an fix as you have 200kH an lot of powerbills
2. short after the fix is out you told us that you aspekt many rejected on the us server (170 ping), i can say that i dont have that many after H2Os fix (ping 210)
3. now you have ASIC and noone know that there is such thing for scrypt

whats next ?

[goodhopes]

Got only half of Accepted MH/s in the last hours, but Rejected MH/s are not significant higher than usual - so that overall rate is below 60% of what it should be. Is there somebody from Europe which has the same problems today? Maybe there is already to much load on this pool?

[Jiyome]

Got only half of Accepted MH/s in the last hours, but Rejected MH/s are not significant higher than usual - so that overall rate is below 60% of what it should be. Is there somebody from Europe which has the same problems today? Maybe there is already to much load on this pool?

I'm from Europe and results aren't very good here either although I would say that it's better than yesterday and the day before. But it's far from what I got a week or two ago.
Now I would certainly blame whatever is happening on the pool that isn't fixed yet, but I also think that the altcoin scene doesn't look very healthy right now...

[hardergamer]

Yes im having the same problem, and the us sever is giving me lots of 0 detected new blocks....

[kalus]

The US server now has the new code, which doesn't disconnect on coin switches. It's bugged to have 1% extra rejects, which show up as "duplicate shares".

This is great news. Is the ETA until bug fix still Sunday?

I never heard back from you after I paid for a video card. Card never came. You didn't log back in or respond. I auctioned the debt to someone else on the Forums, you still owe them a half bitcoin. In my book, you're a scammer. Mods thought that your account was a shill account.

Please PM me if you are interested in resolving this issue, I can connect you with the owner of this debt.

Thanks.

+1

[kalus]

A couple people have private messaged me that they agree with me something fishy is going on. 1 guy has proof that he is scamming and I will be posting it shortly.

The buyer of the video card that you took 0.5btc from has been private messaging you, asking if you want to settle your own debt.

as far as scammers in this thread, you're the only one that's been confirmed to be a scammer.

[Test User]

A lot of the alt coins have got very sick indeed recently. Whether it's the recent run up in BTC price, or something else, I don't know.

For example, I have been mining CSC as a backup for when middlecoin goes down, if I don't want to mine on the EU server. Yet, something has happened to cut the CSC/BTC exchange in half today.  Lots of other alt coins showing long slow crashes in price too.

The US server is a bit happier than it has been, but that seems to be a reflection of the coin situation. Over the last few days, there has been massive fluctuation in difficulty and value of many alts, causing lots of crazy switching from one coin to another.

I don't think the server bug is that high of a priority at the moment, because of the change in coin situation.

However, I would like to make the suggestion that H2O offers an "experimental" server. This could run the most recent test version of the pool, and people could try hashing on it, for a "real world" test of whether the fix is helping or not.

Finally, I came across something very concerning regarding middlecoin. I was testing a new Wifi connection from a local provider (as a backup to wired connecrtivity). It turns out that they block middlecoin - if you try to access the web page, you just get a message - "This site has been blocked. Reason: Contains images of child abuse, or links to child abuse/pornography". I tested access to the pool ports, and they were all blocked as well. I'm guessing that this is a false positive. However, I did call the wifi provider's tech support to ask, and they said, they simply said that they can't unblock it because of illegal material.

The problem seems to be that some overaggressive filter is finding something it doesn't like. I wonder if maybe one of the bitcoin addresses in the list has been implicated in something illegal. Perhaps there might be some benefit in part censoring the addresses, or purging idle addresses from the default list.

[Kluge]

Finally, I came across something very concerning regarding middlecoin. I was testing a new Wifi connection from a local provider (as a backup to wired connecrtivity). It turns out that they block middlecoin - if you try to access the web page, you just get a message - "This site has been blocked. Reason: Contains images of child abuse, or links to child abuse/pornography". I tested access to the pool ports, and they were all blocked as well. I'm guessing that this is a false positive. However, I did call the wifi provider's tech support to ask, and they said, they simply said that they can't unblock it because of illegal material.

The problem seems to be that some overaggressive filter is finding something it doesn't like. I wonder if maybe one of the bitcoin addresses in the list has been implicated in something illegal. Perhaps there might be some benefit in part censoring the addresses, or purging idle addresses from the default list.

It could be much stupider than that. Middlecoin's main page hosts a particularly large number of BTC addresses. Search the addresses to find "porn," "cp," "age," and "kid." There are probably other "trigger words" in there, too. I'd guess if a script finds too many on one page, it blocks access.

Tech support guy you talked to is an idiot either way, though (or just really lazy).

[sykal]

A lot of the alt coins have got very sick indeed recently. Whether it's the recent run up in BTC price, or something else, I don't know.

For example, I have been mining CSC as a backup for when middlecoin goes down, if I don't want to mine on the EU server. Yet, something has happened to cut the CSC/BTC exchange in half today.  Lots of other alt coins showing long slow crashes in price too.

The US server is a bit happier than it has been, but that seems to be a reflection of the coin situation. Over the last few days, there has been massive fluctuation in difficulty and value of many alts, causing lots of crazy switching from one coin to another.

I don't think the server bug is that high of a priority at the moment, because of the change in coin situation.

However, I would like to make the suggestion that H2O offers an "experimental" server. This could run the most recent test version of the pool, and people could try hashing on it, for a "real world" test of whether the fix is helping or not.

Finally, I came across something very concerning regarding middlecoin. I was testing a new Wifi connection from a local provider (as a backup to wired connecrtivity). It turns out that they block middlecoin - if you try to access the web page, you just get a message - "This site has been blocked. Reason: Contains images of child abuse, or links to child abuse/pornography". I tested access to the pool ports, and they were all blocked as well. I'm guessing that this is a false positive. However, I did call the wifi provider's tech support to ask, and they said, they simply said that they can't unblock it because of illegal material.

The problem seems to be that some overaggressive filter is finding something it doesn't like. I wonder if maybe one of the bitcoin addresses in the list has been implicated in something illegal. Perhaps there might be some benefit in part censoring the addresses, or purging idle addresses from the default list.

eek, that could definitely be an issue

[kalus]

The problem seems to be that some overaggressive filter is finding something it doesn't like. I wonder if maybe one of the bitcoin addresses in the list has been implicated in something illegal. Perhaps there might be some benefit in part censoring the addresses, or purging idle addresses from the default list.

ask "who is DDOSing pools", and you will have your answer to who listed middlecoin on a blacklist.

Obviously, it's an individual, group of people, or a few different groups that are attempting to take the site down for any number of reasons.

One of the common ways this is done is by blacklisting a site - complaints of spam, illegal material, or malware.

the easiest way to get around the blacklist is to use a VPN.  once you can control your proxy, there is no issue with the site.

there is no illegal material on the server at all.  not that i can see from the web side, at any rate.  that's what a crawler would see too.

occam's razor suggests that someone who has a vendetta against the site, not that one address was tangentially linked to some massive CP syndicate and Interpol or something stepped in.

nothing to see here folks; just another idiot making it harder to get to middlecoin.

[MiMiMiner]

Yes, using a ASIC miner :-). Got 4 of them.

Your nick fits perfect - lot of mimimi in your posts:)

1. you ask for an fix as you have 200kH an lot of powerbills
2. short after the fix is out you told us that you aspekt many rejected on the us server (170 ping), i can say that i dont have that many after H2Os fix (ping 210)
3. now you have ASIC and noone know that there is such thing for scrypt

whats next ?

1. true
2. true, strange you don't. Check my new address on http://middlecoin2.s3-website-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/reports/1JDHL5WhHNrg4HrNksnF7S1ChGVYYUkjVC.html
3. There i was just kidding. Man, what did I got a lot of PM's :-D

[mikeybit]

I really don't understand peoples' blind acceptance of what H20 tells us.  We have all invested money into rigs, some more than others.  We are all trying to make a profit by mining here.  Yes, free markets will ultimately prevail and people will leave in droves if issues aren't resolved.  About half of the current pool is here right now because of what happened at Hashco.ws

However, more and more auto-switching pools are popping up and people will make up their own minds about where to send their hashpower.  Middlecoin has the advantage of being first to market; once that allure is gone, people will feel less inclined to stick around if the profits or payouts don't seem right.

I would also really like to hear what is truly meant by "refund" or "change" with bitcoin transactions.  We're not exactly talking about $0.50 here.  A lot of manipulation is possible by h20 since we have absolutely 0 transparency.  I have been fine with it for months, but people are raising valid red flags and we're not getting any explanation.  We're not sheep, and I think we ought to know where our money and electricity is going....

[jorgb]

1. true
2. true, strange you don't. Check my new address on http://middlecoin2.s3-website-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/reports/1JDHL5WhHNrg4HrNksnF7S1ChGVYYUkjVC.html
3. There i was just kidding. Man, what did I got a lot of PM's :-D

Hehe +1  

[sykal]

Yes, using a ASIC miner :-). Got 4 of them.

Your nick fits perfect - lot of mimimi in your posts:)

1. you ask for an fix as you have 200kH an lot of powerbills
2. short after the fix is out you told us that you aspekt many rejected on the us server (170 ping), i can say that i dont have that many after H2Os fix (ping 210)
3. now you have ASIC and noone know that there is such thing for scrypt

whats next ?

1. true
2. true, strange you don't. Check my new address on http://middlecoin2.s3-website-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/reports/1JDHL5WhHNrg4HrNksnF7S1ChGVYYUkjVC.html
3. There i was just kidding. Man, what did I got a lot of PM's :-D

that's some sick hash right there.
That would be about 26 mining rigs with 4 R9-270x cards in each. (about 25k worth of hardware)

[Archer13]

Got 5.48% rejected on US server. Ping ~200-220.

[mikeybit]

Yes, using a ASIC miner :-). Got 4 of them.

Your nick fits perfect - lot of mimimi in your posts:)

1. you ask for an fix as you have 200kH an lot of powerbills
2. short after the fix is out you told us that you aspekt many rejected on the us server (170 ping), i can say that i dont have that many after H2Os fix (ping 210)
3. now you have ASIC and noone know that there is such thing for scrypt

whats next ?

1. true
2. true, strange you don't. Check my new address on http://middlecoin2.s3-website-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/reports/1JDHL5WhHNrg4HrNksnF7S1ChGVYYUkjVC.html
3. There i was just kidding. Man, what did I got a lot of PM's :-D

that's some sick hash right there.
That would be about 26 mining rigs with 4 R9-270x cards in each. (about 25k worth of hardware)

Your math is a bit off: 4 * 26 = 104 * 450 kh/s = 46800 kh/s. 

[Firebug24k]

Yawn... I know where my hashes and electricity is going... into my bitcoin wallet.  If I'm not happy, I'll move on to a different pool instead of whining.

[gtraah]

I really don't understand peoples' blind acceptance of what H20 tells us.  We have all invested money into rigs, some more than others.  We are all trying to make a profit by mining here.  Yes, free markets will ultimately prevail and people will leave in droves if issues aren't resolved.  About half of the current pool is here right now because of what happened at Hashco.ws

However, more and more auto-switching pools are popping up and people will make up their own minds about where to send their hashpower.  Middlecoin has the advantage of being first to market; once that allure is gone, people will feel less inclined to stick around if the profits or payouts don't seem right.

I would also really like to hear what is truly meant by "refund" or "change" with bitcoin transactions.  We're not exactly talking about $0.50 here.  A lot of manipulation is possible by h20 since we have absolutely 0 transparency.  I have been fine with it for months, but people are raising valid red flags and we're not getting any explanation.  We're not sheep, and I think we ought to know where our money and electricity is going....

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I Agree on some points here, I am def no sheep!

Unfortunately its a risk that we in this pool accept on taking and no one but h2o and maybe a few others know what really goes on in the back end, I guess its about trust by seeing results and eventually if the results are not good you will naturally leave. But even if something has happened or is happening. I don't think most will ever even realize as it will be in small increments over time.

No one can really say his been scamming or anything like this as there is no proof.. The ONLY thing you can do is leave, this is really the only power you have here.

[hodger]

I really don't understand peoples' blind acceptance of what H20 tells us.  We have all invested money into rigs, some more than others.  We are all trying to make a profit by mining here.  Yes, free markets will ultimately prevail and people will leave in droves if issues aren't resolved.  About half of the current pool is here right now because of what happened at Hashco.ws

However, more and more auto-switching pools are popping up and people will make up their own minds about where to send their hashpower.  Middlecoin has the advantage of being first to market; once that allure is gone, people will feel less inclined to stick around if the profits or payouts don't seem right.

I would also really like to hear what is truly meant by "refund" or "change" with bitcoin transactions.  We're not exactly talking about $0.50 here.  A lot of manipulation is possible by h20 since we have absolutely 0 transparency.  I have been fine with it for months, but people are raising valid red flags and we're not getting any explanation.  We're not sheep, and I think we ought to know where our money and electricity is going....

For me, it's as much about gut feeling as anything else.  Perhaps he's being dishonest (there's always that chance), but right now, it doesn't feel like that to me.  Perhaps I'm too trusting, but short-term, that's enough to satisfy me.

[kalus]

Yawn... I know where my hashes and electricity is going... into my bitcoin wallet.  If I'm not happy, I'll move on to a different pool instead of whining.

+1

I really don't understand peoples' blind acceptance of what H20 tells us.

DAILY PAYOUTS

We're not exactly talking about $0.50 here.  A lot of manipulation is possible by h20 since we have absolutely 0 transparency.  

DAILY PAYOUTS

We're not sheep, and I think we ought to know where our money and electricity is going....

DAILY PAYOUTS

just because you can look up a blockchain doesn't mean you have the intrinic right to go through another company's private finances. all you are here for is to send valid hashes and make money.

middlecoin is privately held, and neither a publicly-traded company, nor a non-profit.  becuase it is a privately held company, you have no business asking about their books, nor do they have to say anything about how the money is handled.  they have been forthcoming with everything, and have exceeded reporting requirements for a USA private corporation.

If that level of disclosure is insufficient, as you said there are lots of sites to choose from.  keep looking for the one that you can trust.  please stop trying to change this one, becuase it's working for most of us.