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January 06, 2014, 03:29:06 AM
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I'm sorry, I missed it, but did anyone see how much the pool balance was  before they payout? The graph shows over 140BTC, but the payout transaction said 107BTC were paid out.

Also, at 5,000mhs, we were averaging around 100-120 BTC/day now with 10,000mhs, shouldn't we be averaging 200-240 BTC/day?


There were apparently multiple payout transactions, the one for 107 and another for 14 and who know what other ones.

https://blockchain.info/tx/ff4c959f19aa5bcee0c7b2893f72ad9cb97c35e0e73c0ff7ceb135ec1fc4672c?currency=MBC
https://blockchain.info/tx/ed73cf107de5713e9c592024897abc3dc7e6f68072c3a362e01a1980db4c8aa1?currency=MBC

As far as with the increased hash vs BTC earnings, you need to take difficulty and altcoin fluctuations into consideration as well.
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January 06, 2014, 03:38:30 AM
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Last time I did a trend-line for our performance (very pie-in-the-sky type numbers though) I came up with a figure of 17mBTC/mhashday

This agree with other people's assumptions? Obviously the variance is a lot as well.
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January 06, 2014, 03:49:54 AM
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Last time I did a trend-line for our performance (very pie-in-the-sky type numbers though) I came up with a figure of 17mBTC/mhashday

This agree with other people's assumptions? Obviously the variance is a lot as well.

personally, it's much lower, only around 12mBTC / mhashday on a normal day.
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January 06, 2014, 03:59:39 AM
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Last time I did a trend-line for our performance (very pie-in-the-sky type numbers though) I came up with a figure of 17mBTC/mhashday

This agree with other people's assumptions? Obviously the variance is a lot as well.

personally, it's much lower, only around 12mBTC / mhashday on a normal day.
well looking over historical data going back to July, 12mBTC would be a bit low - remember we want the average, not a typical day.
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January 06, 2014, 04:00:45 AM
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I'm sorry, I missed it, but did anyone see how much the pool balance was  before they payout? The graph shows over 140BTC, but the payout transaction said 107BTC were paid out.

Also, at 5,000mhs, we were averaging around 100-120 BTC/day now with 10,000mhs, shouldn't we be averaging 200-240 BTC/day?

I personally got a payout on all of my rigs that was higher than what the balance showed on the main page before the payout.
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January 06, 2014, 04:02:27 AM
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Last time I did a trend-line for our performance (very pie-in-the-sky type numbers though) I came up with a figure of 17mBTC/mhashday

This agree with other people's assumptions? Obviously the variance is a lot as well.

personally, it's much lower, only around 12mBTC / mhashday on a normal day.

Same experience I have had, exactly.
Running 5000kh and have averaged .0603 over the last 21 days since I started, probably about 90% up time so probably would have a little more.
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January 06, 2014, 04:03:53 AM
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Middlecoiners, particularly if you have only been mining for a period of 24 hours or less, remember that despite what you received today, there is still an unexchanged and immature balance you have accrued that you will be paid tomorrow. To accurately estimate the fruits of your activities, you need to factor those in, as well. It takes a couple of days for the payments to truly reflect your time spent. For example, when I stopped mining at middlecoin during the recent server issues, I continued to get payments the next two evenings thereafter that reflected previous activity. All in all, the payments came out to be solid. Remember that before you evaluate things and immediately bail out, if payments don't seem like what you are accustomed to, it does take a few days for your "true" activity to be paid upon. I am posting this for those that might be thinking they have been mining for 24 hours and got a low payment. You need to consider what is still reflected in your unexchanged and immature balance. I have also noticed those charts are sometimes misleading, because the unexchanged balance is an ESTIMATE of what will happen once h2o makes exchanges. In my past, he has sometimes pleasantly surprised me with higher numbers than the charts indicate, but that also takes a day or two to show up.
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January 06, 2014, 04:06:42 AM
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Last time I did a trend-line for our performance (very pie-in-the-sky type numbers though) I came up with a figure of 17mBTC/mhashday

This agree with other people's assumptions? Obviously the variance is a lot as well.

personally, it's much lower, only around 12mBTC / mhashday on a normal day.
well looking over historical data going back to July, 12mBTC would be a bit low - remember we want the average, not a typical day.

I'm talking about a normal day for me... I'm only member since a month, so I can't figure out what would have been my payout before!  Anyway, including the DOGE rush the average for the last 33 days is only 13.3391 mBTC.
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January 06, 2014, 04:15:06 AM
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Middlecoiners, particularly if you have only been mining for a period of 24 hours or less, remember that despite what you received today, there is still an unexchanged and immature balance you have accrued that you will be paid tomorrow. To accurately estimate the fruits of your activities, you need to factor those in, as well. It takes a couple of days for the payments to truly reflect your time spent. For example, when I stopped mining at middlecoin during the recent server issues, I continued to get payments the next two evenings thereafter that reflected previous activity. All in all, the payments came out to be solid. Remember that before you evaluate things and immediately bail out, if payments don't seem like what you are accustomed to, it does take a few days for your "true" activity to be paid upon. I am posting this for those that might be thinking they have been mining for 24 hours and got a low payment. You need to consider what is still reflected in your unexchanged and immature balance. I have also noticed those charts are sometimes misleading, because the unexchanged balance is an ESTIMATE of what will happen once h2o makes exchanges. In my past, he has sometimes pleasantly surprised me with higher numbers than the charts indicate, but that also takes a day or two to show up.

Don't get me wrong, everyone has it's own stats, and it's own config.  If I'm bad luck Brian, I will have crappie stats, that's life!  All I say is that being up to the moon @ 1000BT (indicator of a good or a bad day) is not the same with 5000MH or 10000MH.
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January 06, 2014, 04:21:26 AM
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I totally agree with you. It should be changed. I was just addressing things, in general.
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January 06, 2014, 04:26:11 AM
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I created an Excel file with the following columns:
--- SNIP ---
done. I see how much it is fluctuating. Not so much actually.
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And all that goes into ONE LINE in Excel, because then the next line is just filling in the values, pulling a few calculation cells down - and the result is there.
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Does this help?
Overanswered, I guess :-)

Whoa Drakoin!
That is deep! Smiley

Can you send me the file you made to see if i can make some order out of all this information stream?

I don´t really know an awfull a lot, but im learning (or at least trying!)...
Thanks in avance for the attention...
Best Regards,
LPC

Happy to help. Welcome to the strange&mesmerizing world of cryptocurrencies :-)
Myself, I got so much help here.  This web based collaboration work is amazing.

And here is your answer. Overanswered again :-)
but I wanted to beautify the Excel sheet a bit, before I send it to you.

DOWNLOAD THE EXCEL SPREADSHEET HERE:
https://mega.co.nz/#!B9pzGY6K!coGgVCE260BII08hBnRWtE8At08GV-PqJ61v_kSY8c0


copy the whole line into your addressfield, the URL is not recognized in this forumsoftware???
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January 06, 2014, 04:38:23 AM
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I created an Excel file with the following columns:
--- SNIP ---
done. I see how much it is fluctuating. Not so much actually.
...
And all that goes into ONE LINE in Excel, because then the next line is just filling in the values, pulling a few calculation cells down - and the result is there.
...
Does this help?
Overanswered, I guess :-)

Whoa Drakoin!
That is deep! Smiley

Can you send me the file you made to see if i can make some order out of all this information stream?

I don´t really know an awfull a lot, but im learning (or at least trying!)...
Thanks in avance for the attention...
Best Regards,
LPC

Happy to help. Welcome to the strange&mesmerizing world of cryptocurrencies :-)
Myself, I got so much help here.  This web based collaboration work is amazing.

And here is your answer. Overanswered again :-)
but I wanted to beautify the Excel sheet a bit, before I send it to you.

DOWNLOAD THE EXCEL SPREADSHEET HERE:
https://mega.co.nz/#!B9pzGY6K!coGgVCE260BII08hBnRWtE8At08GV-PqJ61v_kSY8c0


copy the whole line into your addressfield, the URL is not recognized in this forumsoftware???
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seeing mega.co.nz there reminded me of Kim Dotcom  Cheesy Surely he's got his fingers in the cryptocurrency pie!
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January 06, 2014, 06:24:00 AM
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I'm sorry, I missed it, but did anyone see how much the pool balance was  before they payout? The graph shows over 140BTC, but the payout transaction said 107BTC were paid out.

Also, at 5,000mhs, we were averaging around 100-120 BTC/day now with 10,000mhs, shouldn't we be averaging 200-240 BTC/day?

Just H2O stealing more coins. No big deal. Since some of you guys said you're OK with 5-10% fee, I'm sure he's going ahead and taking it

Come on...

Lets wait for the H2O explanation before bashing more crap at him...
You are so sure about this... So lets see proof...

I see good results all around... you see a scammer...

Time will tell...

LPC
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January 06, 2014, 06:24:18 AM
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I'm sorry, I missed it, but did anyone see how much the pool balance was  before they payout? The graph shows over 140BTC, but the payout transaction said 107BTC were paid out.

Also, at 5,000mhs, we were averaging around 100-120 BTC/day now with 10,000mhs, shouldn't we be averaging 200-240 BTC/day?

Just H2O stealing more coins. No big deal. Since some of you guys said you're OK with 5-10% fee, I'm sure he's going ahead and taking it
No... Not all 'exchanged balance' is payable. Exchanged balance never starts at 0 after a payout for obvious reason - BTC that is exchanged takes time to withdrawal from the exchanges before it can be paid out... So not all exchanged balance can actually be paid immediately.
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January 06, 2014, 07:04:11 AM
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I'm sorry, I missed it, but did anyone see how much the pool balance was  before they payout? The graph shows over 140BTC, but the payout transaction said 107BTC were paid out.

Also, at 5,000mhs, we were averaging around 100-120 BTC/day now with 10,000mhs, shouldn't we be averaging 200-240 BTC/day?

Just H2O stealing more coins. No big deal. Since some of you guys said you're OK with 5-10% fee, I'm sure he's going ahead and taking it
No... Not all 'exchanged balance' is payable. Exchanged balance never starts at 0 after a payout for obvious reason - BTC that is exchanged takes time to withdrawal from the exchanges before it can be paid out... So not all exchanged balance can actually be paid immediately.

There is nothing obvious as long as a lot of small miners don't reach the payout and have their balance carried out to the next one.  It's normal to start the day with some remaining BTC.
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January 06, 2014, 07:52:57 AM
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Some people have cocked up their payout addresses as well
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January 06, 2014, 07:58:28 AM
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Some people have cocked up their payout addresses as well

What do you mean cocked up ?
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January 06, 2014, 08:04:36 AM
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How is the 7950 and 280x king when the 270 uses less power?

I think he is referring to KH per Watt

Yup... there are plenty of cards out there and integrated Intel GPUs that use less power... but aren't worth crap for their hashrate.

So the 7950 is still king when it comes to KH/s at its power consumption rate.  Especially when you use one of Lantis' scrypt bin files for cgminer and if you undervolt with the .967v firmware.



We use rigs with 3 x R9 290 Sapphire and XFX cards. They get very hot though.
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January 06, 2014, 08:07:35 AM
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How is the 7950 and 280x king when the 270 uses less power?

I think he is referring to KH per Watt

Yup... there are plenty of cards out there and integrated Intel GPUs that use less power... but aren't worth crap for their hashrate.

So the 7950 is still king when it comes to KH/s at its power consumption rate.  Especially when you use one of Lantis' scrypt bin files for cgminer and if you undervolt with the .967v firmware.



We use rigs with 3 x R9 290 Sapphire and XFX cards. They get very hot though.

how hot ? I have some 7970 that hit 95 in an instant ... I've disabled them until I can get some fans on them

nope
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January 06, 2014, 08:18:06 AM
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How is the 7950 and 280x king when the 270 uses less power?

I think he is referring to KH per Watt

Yup... there are plenty of cards out there and integrated Intel GPUs that use less power... but aren't worth crap for their hashrate.

So the 7950 is still king when it comes to KH/s at its power consumption rate.  Especially when you use one of Lantis' scrypt bin files for cgminer and if you undervolt with the .967v firmware.



We use rigs with 3 x R9 290 Sapphire and XFX cards. They get very hot though.

how hot ? I have some 7970 that hit 95 in an instant ... I've disabled them until I can get some fans on them

i just buy a table fan and blow directly to the cards
manage to maintain 68c~70c @ 50%~80% auto-fan
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