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Author Topic: [ANN] profit switching auto-exchanging pool - www.middlecoin.com  (Read 829874 times)
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January 17, 2014, 02:17:46 AM
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Yeah. On Wednesday... It's Thursday.

I'll get paid tomorrow. But it won't make up for today being low. Guarantee that.
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January 17, 2014, 02:17:59 AM
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I normally get about .017/day. And he usually pays out at 10:30pm EST.

He paid out @9pm while I sit with .009. (Meaning I didn't get paid, yet).

Thanks breh -__-

you should get a little.. he's doing weekly 0.001 payout..

Yep.  One of mine got paid .0094 today.  Also ended the day with higher than normal unX'd.  I'm good with that.  Just means tomorrow will be a higher than normal payout.
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January 17, 2014, 02:19:07 AM
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My main gripe is that he paid out early instead of doing exchanges until the "normal" payout time.
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January 17, 2014, 02:19:23 AM
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Yeah. On Wednesday... It's Thursday.

I'll get paid tomorrow. But it won't make up for today being low. Guarantee that.

He already said he missed the Wednesday payout and would do it today.  Check again.
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January 17, 2014, 02:23:22 AM
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Yeah payout was lower today but you guys do realize that alt prices dropped a bit today as well, right?  I think people are just focusing on their BTC/Hashrate per day and not looking at the bigger picture of the alt coin economy and how it is dynamic and always in flux.

At any rate, I'm glad the stats are finally fixed.  As was said, we are sitting on a ton of unexchanged so expect tomorrow to have a nice large payday which evens out todays lower payout as well.

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January 17, 2014, 02:25:48 AM
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whats up with the graphhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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January 17, 2014, 02:35:16 AM
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Today we had an average 0.0114 / Mh/s.

(131.89 + 35) / 14700 = 0.0114
35 is an approximation of unexchanged addition today.
14700 is an approximation of the average Mh/s for the pool today.

It could be nice to keep track of unexchanged amount at the start of the day, in order to have more accurate stats.
(Starting at 83.5 for tommorow.)
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January 17, 2014, 02:47:48 AM
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Could some please explain me slooooooowly why do people with the same hashrate gets very different payouts?

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January 17, 2014, 02:52:55 AM
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Yeah payout was lower today but you guys do realize that alt prices dropped a bit today as well, right?  I think people are just focusing on their BTC/Hashrate per day and not looking at the bigger picture of the alt coin economy and how it is dynamic and always in flux.

At any rate, I'm glad the stats are finally fixed.  As was said, we are sitting on a ton of unexchanged so expect tomorrow to have a nice large payday which evens out todays lower payout as well.



i'd love to see ltc diff/hash decrease before i load up some real gpu rigs, but i'm pretty sure it's a pipe dream.. life would have been great had i loaded-up last year.. hard to say which way scrypt mining will go over the next few months.. it's the quiet before the storm, imo..
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January 17, 2014, 03:11:11 AM
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Could some please explain me slooooooowly why do people with the same hashrate gets very different payouts?
That's what we were trying to figure out yesterday too. Hopefully a member running tests will be able to report back what he learned so far.

A person mining with 18.5 MH today received 0.14614399 at a rate of 0.00789 BTC/MH/s paid

Another person with a rate of 11 MH received 0.064 at a rate of 0.00582 BTC/MH/s

This is a substantial difference for two miners who mined the same time period with very consistent hashrates.

The thinking right now is the higher-paid miner is the newer one, and is probably on a "Beta" server, while the older lower-paid miner is on the "main" middlecoin server. This would in turn mean the servers are not mining the same coin, or are being exchanged in different ways or at different times.

The hashrates were both consistent throughout the day, and I'm looking at accepted... not accepted + rejected

If anyone has any other ideas (other than they are on different pools / the conspiracy that older miners are getting funds siphoned off the top) I'd love to hear it
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January 17, 2014, 03:11:35 AM
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Just me, or stats flat again?
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January 17, 2014, 03:14:58 AM
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Could some please explain me slooooooowly why do people with the same hashrate gets very different payouts?
That's what we were trying to figure out yesterday too. Hopefully a member running tests will be able to report back what he learned so far.

A person mining with 18.5 MH today received 0.14614399 at a rate of 0.00789 BTC/MH/s paid

Another person with a rate of 11 MH received 0.064 at a rate of 0.00582 BTC/MH/s

This is a substantial difference for two miners who mined the same time period with very consistent hashrates.

The thinking right now is the higher-paid miner is the newer one, and is probably on a "Beta" server, while the older lower-paid miner is on the "main" middlecoin server. This would in turn mean the servers are not mining the same coin, or are being exchanged in different ways or at different times.

The hashrates were both consistent throughout the day, and I'm looking at accepted... not accepted + rejected

If anyone has any other ideas (other than they are on different pools / the conspiracy that older miners are getting funds siphoned off the top) I'd love to hear it

useast has much better payouts than uswest.  I assumed everybody knew that.
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January 17, 2014, 03:22:35 AM
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Just me, or stats flat again?

Yes, it's flatlined again. Sadly, each time that happens, deviation in payouts from the prior and day after is significant. Makes me paranoid.
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January 17, 2014, 03:30:52 AM
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I don't buy the conspiracy theory that older miners are getting siphoned/paid less.  Considering my current address dates back to Early August and my older address earlier in the Summer... I'm seeing very good payouts right now on USEast compared to others in the same hashrate on the chart.

Other factors like latency, rejects, and which server you're connected to has more to do with it.

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January 17, 2014, 03:35:19 AM
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useast has much better payouts than uswest.  I assumed everybody knew that.

so uswest == middlecoin.com and useast is still beta and they are mining differently. hm...

i've been trying to follow the differences b/w the servers but it is kind of hard to keep up with the all the extra crap going on in the thread.

I was aware that middlecoin and eu.middlecoin were different for a while, is that still true?

Also with useast still in beta, does it still go down occasionaly?

what's the best approach, use useast with middlecoin.com as --failover-only so that you dont suffer any downtime when/if useast goes down?

now that my second rig is pointed here, i was planning on doing some tests to the various servers.  i'm about 100ms latency to useast, uswest and eu.

also, for what it's worth i'm seeing slightly different results for my btc/MH/day with 2 different miners pointed at middlecoin.com. need a few more days i think before i make my own conclusions on the whole new vs old address profitability debate

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January 17, 2014, 03:52:07 AM
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I've only ever tried us servers.  Using useast my return was almost 100% higher.  Set west as my backup and haven't looked back.  The only stability issues I've seen have been on my end and the stats server which effects everyone.
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January 17, 2014, 03:52:58 AM
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Could some please explain me slooooooowly why do people with the same hashrate gets very different payouts?

 
We aren't sure.

But I'm quite sure it's not because some servers would be mining more profitable coins:
Same coins are mined, almost at the same time.

I'm going to make a test with 2 different payout address just to figure out how bad is my worst rig. Its efficiency looks pretty bad (E as defined by default in cgwatcher : accepted/getworks) . If the payout is far lower than expected considering just its hashrate it could be a clue.



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January 17, 2014, 03:57:03 AM
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My imprecise results since the last payout...two different addresses used.

middlecoin = 0.005286 BTC/Mh/s   (about 2.23 Mh/s)
useast =  0.005322 BTC/Mh/s  (about 2.03 Mh/s)

I'll continue to monitor.  Periodic checks throughout the day showed that both pools were mining the same network.
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January 17, 2014, 04:01:33 AM
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Could you make an option to convert to LTC?
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January 17, 2014, 04:07:44 AM
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My imprecise results since the last payout...two different addresses used.

middlecoin = 0.005286 BTC/Mh/s   (about 2.23 Mh/s)
useast =  0.005322 BTC/Mh/s  (about 2.03 Mh/s)

I'll continue to monitor.  Periodic checks throughout the day showed that both pools were mining the same network.
Ok, then the difference must be in the exchanging. Time to move my rigs over, with the "main" as my backup... The difference MH for MH is substantial from what I can see so far... at least 25% increase
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