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[karolina]

Good thing you put that edit in there because I was heading in the, you don't have to buy 11 rigs and worry about making your money back. Not that I choose not to upgrade but more that every card right now is priced to the point of if I buy it now I will never be able to make anything back for resale.

Thanks. Nice day to you sir.

You're choose not to take the risk. No risk, no reward. Same goes for buying ASICs.

I mine for for a little extra change. My full time job suffices. Why take a risk when I am comfortable with my life?

This can go on all night lol, there are always more ways than one to look at it.

I'm off to bed.









21 mh/s crew! 

[bitter_miner]

Not to keep jumping you guy's little, lets say "disagreement", but I sure as hell treat this more of a business than a hobby.  I clear over $250/day on average (yesterday was NOT average ) here at Middlecoin and have already made enough mining LTC the last 12 months to pay for all my equipment and for even more farm buildout.  No friggin hobby dollar amounts here...

just curious, but 110v or 240v?? i'm assuming 240v but from your home or do you rent business space?? been crunching numbers lately.. wanted to add a 240v breaker box for my servers and then mining came along.. i'm fine up to 200A - was going to allocate 50A for starters.. keep reminding the wife not to plug the vacuum into room with "all the computer crap".. ups protected, but she just keeps bringing it all down.. the whole breaker thing is too much

[doxymoron]

Seems my personal graph is stuck again.

[induktor]

Hello
I have been mining here for several weeks, but the useless work resulting of the 1024K difficulty bugs me a bit.

I have been reading the last 50 pages but couldn't find the info I want.
What would be best, using 1 thread with 7950 and high TC for middlecoin or a 280X with g 2 at 750Kh?

what I am asking is what is better to accommodate for the 1024K difficulty, I am trying to make it work as efficient as I can.

any hint?, thank you!
indkt.

so far only these works for me @ 1~% reject

Code:

280x @ 680kh/s:-
thread-concurrency : 28672 (2048 * 14)
gpu-thread : 1
intensity : 18
gpu-engine : 1100
gpu-memclock : 1500

7950 @ 590kh/s :-
thread-concurrency : 25984 (1792 * 14.5)
gpu-thread : 1
intensity : 18
gpu-engine : 1050
gpu-memclock : 1250

Thank you for sharing it!!!!
I will try that asap!
Indkt.

[gtraah]

Also, people seem to forget that Scrypt ASICs allow for more expandability for miners like me, with 11 rigs. I have no room left, I'd be tripping breakers, and too much heat is being generated.

Scrypt ASICs would solve all these problems for me.

So that argument about X number of 280x's costing XXX dollars, isn't totally relevant when trying to compare to ASICs, which can allow much more hashing, with much less power consumption, and much less heat being generated, and taking up a much smaller footprint.

Also applies to people who live in smaller apartments. Suddenly instead of having enough circuits to allow going from 5 MH/s, to being able to power four X 25 MH/s ASICs, will make a huge difference.

You keep forgetting that difficulty will rise like there is no tomorrow. So your going to need more and more and more eventually turning into bitcoin.

Right, because I forgot this very obvious factor, on more than one occasion, with my low post count, which by the way, was completely irrelevant to the statement I was trying to make.    Moron.

I was saying that your going to neeed more and more ASICS and eventually have the same NO ROOM LEFT AGAIN and same profit again, You may be better off for the first few months but then say hi to many more asics... As it will become like bitcoin, But Even if I breifly just read your post and commented on it not seeing the complete post , why call me a Moron?, call me a moron and you get it back in your face. DKhead. Do you think your some sikcnt. Big kid with his Big hash power thinking his king shit haaa? call me moron??? Yeh ok well then that makes a fukkd up cnt who needs to be capped in the knees!!

calling us kids? hahaha  Show me anyone under 16 here I don't even think anyone is under 21 here But if so , who cares good on them for starting up!!

[Catswold]

Mining is VERY competitive.  It's an arms race against the ASIC clock.  It's also a race against the rising difficulty clock.

Asics's are coming one way or another.  I still think it will be a while before they offer the performance/price that makes sense.  Also, it will take a generation or two to really get the kinks worked out.

But if you aren't either racing to get as much coin now as you can, then you are bringing up the rear because the rest of use are building farms.  We want to collect/cash in as much BTC as possible before ASICs drive the difficulty up so much that you actually NEED said asic to mine/survive in this hobby.

It is called progress. Either you move along with it or you get left behind crying about the neighbors Maserati Smiley

+1. Finally some adults around here.

Funny how kids around here like to play with their words just so they can 1up people on the Internet.

Where did I try to one up you? Who is the kid? Those dang kids! Kids are what 16 and under? Sorry to disappoint, no kid here.

Mining is still not competitive. There is a new coin every week. No one can mine every coin. So please stop.

ALSO, people that take mining as BUSINESS are not so smart. Lets use logic here.

Allow him his illusion of superiority, it's all he's got apparently to make him feel good about himself.

If he feels it's competitive, fine for him.  I'll just sit back and continue to mine away, perfectly happy with my profits and my strategic coin purchase.  I'm not in competition with anyone but myself.

[Catswold]

Seems my personal graph is stuck again.

Been frozen all afternoon

[Biggen]

just curious, but 110v or 240v?? i'm assuming 240v but from your home or do you rent business space?? been crunching numbers lately.. wanted to add a 240v breaker box for my servers and then mining came along.. i'm fine up to 200A - was going to allocate 50A for starters.. keep reminding the wife not to plug the vacuum into room with "all the computer crap".. ups protected, but she just keeps bringing it all down.. the whole breaker thing is too much

I own my own business so I have my farm setup there at my building. Already have 600 amp 3-Phase power to my facility so I just added twin 30A 240v breakers for the farm.  Sized each breaker to handle 5 rigs (each with four 280xs).  Only running 8 rigs currently. The heat output sucks so im getting quotes for A/C systems just for the server farm room. Will need them if we want to expand any further.

[dgross0818]

This can go on all night lol, there are always more ways than one to look at it.

I'm off to bed.


21 mh/s crew! 

At least this is slightly more entertaining to read than the "H2O IS STEALING FROM YOU" BS that usually starts flying around this time

Personal graphs are still stuck for me (actually they just haven't updated), however, stats from bfpcoin.com (among other ones that process the raw data) are up to date and accurate from what I can tell. Payout today looks to be around 0.0173BTC per MH/s or so, which is still higher than we've been experiencing.

ASIC's are something everyone needs to come to terms with. The financial incentive wasn't there when LTC was $2-3, however, now those capital costs in development are a lot more attractive. The first round I'm not worried about, and even long-term, until memory gets faster, the differences won't be as large as some think. Power consumption (heat) on the other hand is what many of us are looking forward to... I like GPU's because they have utility (value) outside mining, however, if I can hash faster with less heat/power consumption to worry about, then that's attractive too.

For those worried about the competitive nature of mining... that's the name of the game. There will always be people with over 100x my hashing power, and I recognize that. Likewise, not everyone can afford to even run a 25-30 GPU setup. While we all wish we were H2O, or the guy with 150+ MH/s, that doesn't get you anywhere in life. Also, to the person who said it's just as easy to manage multiple rigs vs 1 or 2 GPUs... not when you have way more parts to clean / configure / make sure they are always working

[kopam]

Seems my personal graph is stuck again.

Been frozen all afternoon

yeah same with me, however it is getting updated and correct hash rate on the allusers page.

[bitter_miner]

just curious, but 110v or 240v?? i'm assuming 240v but from your home or do you rent business space?? been crunching numbers lately.. wanted to add a 240v breaker box for my servers and then mining came along.. i'm fine up to 200A - was going to allocate 50A for starters.. keep reminding the wife not to plug the vacuum into room with "all the computer crap".. ups protected, but she just keeps bringing it all down.. the whole breaker thing is too much

I own my own business so I have my farm setup there at my building. Already have 600 amp 3-Phase power to my facility so I just added twin 30A 240v breakers for the farm.  Sized each breaker to handle 5 rigs (each with four 280xs).  Only running 8 rigs currently. The heat output sucks so im getting quotes for A/C systems. Will need them if we want to expand.

i actually found your pic's.. very nice.. got some nice power toys in there.. very jealous i can imagine.. the heats getting pretty bad now with cards maxed all day - only a ceiling fan to push some air out.. i really can't add anything meaningful without a small a/c unit in the room and/or ventilation, and more power.. i have 32 sata drives running in 2 servers, 4 systems for tv viewing, switches and the normal crap.. only low-power nvidia cards, 1-2 years old.. no mining investment to date.. $8-$12/day on average - $25.00 yesterday.. have to stop mining on the nvidia cards next month if i want them to last.. they run way too hot..

that's good to know.. i was planning on 2-3 systems per breaker to leave some room, but may just bump that up.. depends on costs and what i find laying around the old man's garage.. thanks for that..

[gtraah]

Yes I agree with Asics in the sence that they are less power , I mean look! if there going to come then let them come... But the issue with this - Pre-order (Risk) Wait, 1st Batch comes (great) , But my worry with this is, I'm thinking by the time the 2nd batch is ready for shipping wouldn't we need a bigger and better asic then the one you have ordered? I mean if there were big companies like Intel making them I will feel much better pre-ordering. BUt these unknown companies just scare me.

[The Fat Miner]

I have a feeling your hashrate issues are still tied to your power outtage.  You probably burnt out your boards' VRMs or blew a few capacitors that reduced how long they could run at full tilt.  The power outtage didn't kill your rigs outright, but it did handicap your boards for endurance.

I definitely wouldn't blame the spooky high hashrate boogeyman botnet in the closet
That's why a windows install didn't help all that much and why noone else is seeing the same hashrate drop you are.

That's a feasible explanation, And of course I don't believe the boogie man botnet has anything to do with it, But just scratching my head as to what's going on, Reason being, The rig is still hashing at the same high rate it was before the power cut, And showing 1.7-1.8 Mh/s on the WU: in CGminer , Plus I have another small pony hashing at 100 Kh/s in the WU:

So I can't understand how the graph reports me anything under 1.7-1.6 Mh/s, Its shown as little as 1.3 Mh/s at times, Even with a ton of rejects it would be better than that.

Only trouble now is the graphs aren't working at all now, So I wouldn't know.

Anyway I just thought I would let everybody on here know in case it wasn't just me.

[zneww]

Mining is VERY competitive.  It's an arms race against the ASIC clock.  It's also a race against the rising difficulty clock.

Asics's are coming one way or another.  I still think it will be a while before they offer the performance/price that makes sense.  Also, it will take a generation or two to really get the kinks worked out.

But if you aren't either racing to get as much coin now as you can, then you are bringing up the rear because the rest of use are building farms.  We want to collect/cash in as much BTC as possible before ASICs drive the difficulty up so much that you actually NEED said asic to mine/survive in this hobby.

It is called progress. Either you move along with it or you get left behind crying about the neighbors Maserati Smiley

+1. Finally some adults around here.

Funny how kids around here like to play with their words just so they can 1up people on the Internet.

Where did I try to one up you? Who is the kid? Those dang kids! Kids are what 16 and under? Sorry to disappoint, no kid here.

Mining is still not competitive. There is a new coin every week. No one can mine every coin. So please stop.

ALSO, people that take mining as BUSINESS are not so smart. Lets use logic here.

Allow him his illusion of superiority, it's all he's got apparently to make him feel good about himself.

If he feels it's competitive, fine for him.  I'll just sit back and continue to mine away, perfectly happy with my profits and my strategic coin purchase.  I'm not in competition with anyone but myself.

I thought I was losing it.

[mafiax617]

Was there a payout earlier tonight?

[HumbleMiner]

Was there a payout earlier tonight?

Yes.

[MysteryX]

I also got a payout, my graph has been stuck all day though.

[knybe]

I also got a payout, my graph has been stuck all day though.

mine too, any story on why?

[zneww]

I also got a payout, my graph has been stuck all day though.

mine too, any story on why?

h20 hates graphs

[dgross0818]

I also got a payout, my graph has been stuck all day though.

mine too, any story on why?

h20 hates graphs

Haha, probably true :] The real reason is most likely because he did something on the back-end that "broke" the software that renders the graphs (which H2O doesn't control). Payout was fine and other sites like the one I linked before are updating normally