[ANN] profit switching auto-exchanging pool - www.middlecoin.com

[codon]

Just me, or stats flat again?

This amateur hour bullshit is really starting to piss me off.  h20 may be a coin trading wizard, but he clearly doesn't know dick about IT ops.  I bet he uses software raid and ebs volumes to back his mysql db.  Database needs to "catch up"?  Please.  He needs to profile his database queries and get some REAL i/o.  Not this ebs shit.  CloudSigma is all ssd, would be a good choice.

[Zoella]

My imprecise results since the last payout...two different addresses used.

middlecoin = 0.005286 BTC/Mh/s   (about 2.23 Mh/s)
useast =  0.005322 BTC/Mh/s  (about 2.03 Mh/s)

I'll continue to monitor.  Periodic checks throughout the day showed that both pools were mining the same network.

I assume you mean that was your average between the last TWO payouts?

That seems awfully low.  I'm seeing > .01 BTC / MH / day.

[willittobe]

I've only ever tried us servers.  Using useast my return was almost 100% higher.  Set west as my backup and haven't looked back.  The only stability issues I've seen have been on my end and the stats server which effects everyone.

My test findings with running 2 matched rigs, one on west and one on east, both with new addresses, concur with these findings. I actually swapped the remaining rigs over to east after about 3 hours, the difference was that obvious.

Final payouts for the 24 hour test period, east was ~120% higher than west.

So basically i've been getting less than half of what I could have been since the new beta servers were released.

That kinda pisses me off a little, that the default server is so much worse, and equals a fair amount of income down the drain.

[Cryptos2go]

Can anyone list the us severs for me please? i cant find/remeber them 

These are the current servers:

uswest.middlecoin.com (Oregon) - Same as middlecoin.com currently.
useast.middlecoin.com (N. Virginia) - BETA
eu.middlecoin.com (Ireland) - BETA
asia.middlecoin.com (Singapore) - BETA

from: http://www.middlecoin.com/faq.html

These servers all have the same port? ":3333" I assume?

The FAQ said when the new servers are done with BT your miner/s will automatically go through the lowest latency server, that should be nice, but will we still be able to load balance between 2 or 3 middlecoin servers?

 It sounds strange to want to load balance between the 2 lowest latency servers, but it seems to help me get slightly less rejects on average, though I have no empirical data to support this so it could just be coincidence  

Finally, does anyone know where H20 currently stands on implementing some way to divide the pools hash so we can mine some of the smaller coins more efficiently/effectively or at all? I know H20 probably has their hands full just keeping up with how fast the pool is growing. Just wanting to know if H20 is still even considering it at this point.
 
Also would like to thank whoever is making the graphs.

[boxofspuds]

My imprecise results since the last payout...two different addresses used.

middlecoin = 0.005286 BTC/Mh/s   (about 2.23 Mh/s)
useast =  0.005322 BTC/Mh/s  (about 2.03 Mh/s)

I'll continue to monitor.  Periodic checks throughout the day showed that both pools were mining the same network.

I assume you mean that was your average between the last TWO payouts?

That seems awfully low.  I'm seeing > .01 BTC / MH / day.

here's my results using middlecoin.com:
rig 1 (1.4Mh) = .0123 BTC/day
rig 2 (2.8Mh) = .027 BTC/day (need more days for better analysis)

but basically this comes down to .008 BTC/MH/day or .009 BTC/MH/day

if what you guys are saying is right, i'm losing a fair amount per day by not using useast

that's just great.  guess i'll ride out uswest till tomorrows payout and then swap over to useast and do some more testing, though I'm not sure now is the best time to do comparo tests given the fact that the graphs are totally fubared

for failover only, we just append the following to our scripts (or the equivalent in the config)?
--failover-only -o stratum+tcp://middlecoin.com:3333 -u <your bitcoin address> -p x

[dgross0818]

I've only ever tried us servers.  Using useast my return was almost 100% higher.  Set west as my backup and haven't looked back.  The only stability issues I've seen have been on my end and the stats server which effects everyone.

My test findings with running 2 matched rigs, one on west and one on east, both with new addresses, concur with these findings. I actually swapped the remaining rigs over to east after about 3 hours, the difference was that obvious.

Final payouts for the 24 hour test period, east was ~120% higher than west.

So basically i've been getting less than half of what I could have been since the new beta servers were released.

That kinda pisses me off a little, that the default server is so much worse, and equals a fair amount of income down the drain.

Thanks for doing that, I was hoping with all the stat BS that you didn't abandon the quest to compare.  When the difference you could have been making was on the order of 0.05-0.1 BTC a day or so, it really sucks haha.  I've switched my rigs over as well... let's see what tomorrow brings.

I'm especially interested in comparing the reject rates, as my USEast ping is quite a bit lower (makes sense as I'm only a state away from the server vs many)

[Cryptos2go]

I do appreciate the comparisons between the East/West servers, but could do me/us a favor and please indicate to which server you are closest?

As it is now I'm assuming those who are reporting higher returns on useast are in fact closer to uswest?

[TrollboxChamp]

Useast and middlecoin main server have always been good for me. Although problems with graph again :/

Edit:  I shouldnt say problems with graph. Problems with graph getting update data :/

PS: Ty coingeek.

[Zoella]

Yes, just add "--failover-only" to your command line arguments.

Why "ride it out"?  I'm assuming you have historical stats to compare.  Just create a new address and switch, then compare results after a few days.

And yes, I am closer to uswest...

Pinging uswest.middlecoin.com [54.214.242.184] with
Reply from 54.214.242.184: bytes=32 time=45ms TTL=47
Reply from 54.214.242.184: bytes=32 time=46ms TTL=47
Reply from 54.214.242.184: bytes=32 time=46ms TTL=47
Reply from 54.214.242.184: bytes=32 time=45ms TTL=47

Pinging useast.middlecoin.com [54.197.251.210] with
Reply from 54.197.251.210: bytes=32 time=98ms TTL=42
Reply from 54.197.251.210: bytes=32 time=61ms TTL=42
Reply from 54.197.251.210: bytes=32 time=64ms TTL=42
Reply from 54.197.251.210: bytes=32 time=61ms TTL=42

[boxofspuds]

Yes, just add "--failover-only" to your command line arguments.

Why "ride it out"?  I'm assuming you have historical stats to compare.  Just create a new address and switch, then compare results after a few days.

that's a good point. while my 2nd rig only has a day and a half on middlecoin, my other rig has enough historical data to show me i'm at 0.008/0.009 btc/mh/day.

i wonder if it's worth testing eu for me as well since I have about the same latency to all 3

Pinging uswest.middlecoin.com [54.214.242.184] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 54.214.242.184: bytes=32 time=97ms TTL=245
Reply from 54.214.242.184: bytes=32 time=97ms TTL=245
Reply from 54.214.242.184: bytes=32 time=96ms TTL=245
Reply from 54.214.242.184: bytes=32 time=96ms TTL=245

Pinging useast.middlecoin.com [54.197.251.210] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 54.197.251.210: bytes=32 time=105ms TTL=251
Reply from 54.197.251.210: bytes=32 time=103ms TTL=251
Reply from 54.197.251.210: bytes=32 time=105ms TTL=251
Reply from 54.197.251.210: bytes=32 time=96ms TTL=251

Pinging eu.middlecoin.com [54.194.173.83] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 54.194.173.83: bytes=32 time=94ms TTL=250
Reply from 54.194.173.83: bytes=32 time=98ms TTL=250
Reply from 54.194.173.83: bytes=32 time=95ms TTL=250
Reply from 54.194.173.83: bytes=32 time=95ms TTL=250

[willittobe]

I've only ever tried us servers.  Using useast my return was almost 100% higher.  Set west as my backup and haven't looked back.  The only stability issues I've seen have been on my end and the stats server which effects everyone.

My test findings with running 2 matched rigs, one on west and one on east, both with new addresses, concur with these findings. I actually swapped the remaining rigs over to east after about 3 hours, the difference was that obvious.

Final payouts for the 24 hour test period, east was ~120% higher than west.

So basically i've been getting less than half of what I could have been since the new beta servers were released.

That kinda pisses me off a little, that the default server is so much worse, and equals a fair amount of income down the drain.

Thanks for doing that, I was hoping with all the stat BS that you didn't abandon the quest to compare.  When the difference you could have been making was on the order of 0.05-0.1 BTC a day or so, it really sucks haha.  I've switched my rigs over as well... let's see what tomorrow brings.

I'm especially interested in comparing the reject rates, as my USEast ping is quite a bit lower (makes sense as I'm only a state away from the server vs many)

Yeah, it wasn't an ideal testing environment, but both rigs chugged away the whole time so I consider it a valid comparison.

Yes, it sucks, especially when it's been like 8 days of lost BTC. I foolishly assumed that the main server would receive the most attention, be the most stable, have the best payout.

@Cryptos2go
Here's the funny thing, my ping (and reject rate) sucks equally to both the east and west servers.

So, summing it up: same hashrates, same (laggy) pings, same coins being switched even....
...and still a huge disparity in payouts.

[Zoella]

With those ping times, I'd definitely move one to useast and one to eu and start testing.  My times to eu are 3x that of the us servers, so I've never bothered.

[Anubite]

For some reason I just don't think distance to the server matters a hell of a lot if it's still in the same hemisphere. 50ms ping vs 150ms, as long as the throughput is strong the data gets there fast enough.

[Zoella]

For some reason I just don't think distance to the server matters a hell of a lot if it's still in the same hemisphere. 50ms ping vs 150ms, as long as the throughput is strong the data gets there fast enough.

I think it's a big issue actually, especially on low diff coins.  Otherwise you see something like this with no accepted shares...

Stratum from pool 0 detected new block
Stratum from pool 0 detected new block
Stratum from pool 0 detected new block
Stratum from pool 0 detected new block
Stratum from pool 0 detected new block
Stratum from pool 0 detected new block
Stratum from pool 0 detected new block
Stratum from pool 0 detected new block

I would think every KH and every MS counts.

[HumbleMiner]

And stats are moving again (not in the graph yet).

[Cryptos2go]

For some reason I just don't think distance to the server matters a hell of a lot if it's still in the same hemisphere. 50ms ping vs 150ms, as long as the throughput is strong the data gets there fast enough.

You are probably right about that.

Could it make a difference on fast low diff/hash coins? maybe?

I seem to be getting more work from useast according to load balance. I am definitely closer to uswest though. Maybe the server load has something to do with it?

[suprememilo]

I really hope my unexchanged is right or today was a bust, but it was nice he paid out only 0.00897664 even though I didn't have .01 today.

[HumbleMiner]

I really hope my unexchanged is right or today was a bust, but it was nice he paid out only 0.00897664 even though I didn't have .01 today.

Yeah, Wednesday was a promised "more than 0.001" day, but h20 forgot and sent those payments today instead. I also got the remainder from one of my obsolete accounts, which is better than waiting for another week (thanks h20!).

[rascal777]

I thought that I had higher rejects using all rigs assigned to one BTC address.  -- I could be wrong on this.
I split up my machines one for each BTC address.

I was wondering, is there a stratum server software I could run on my side that would talk to middlecoin.com and pass out work to the rigs?

On payout, what is the BTC transaction fee, if any?

Also, Check out this Chrome extension that I am using to pull out info for just my BTC addresses.

I posted about it here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=291114.msg4381547#msg4381547

[Anubite]

For some reason I just don't think distance to the server matters a hell of a lot if it's still in the same hemisphere. 50ms ping vs 150ms, as long as the throughput is strong the data gets there fast enough.

You are probably right about that.

Could it make a difference on fast low diff/hash coins? maybe?

I seem to be getting more work from useast according to load balance. I am definitely closer to uswest though. Maybe the server load has something to do with it?

I am willing to bet this would be the case, which would help to verify the severity of the issues facing the pool host at the moment in time.

I'd say cap the user number like poolwarz has done, but is that even possible with this system?

Maybe one server that acts as a front for two? This might help cut load balance issues if possible, as it wont be just east or west.