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Author Topic: [ANN] profit switching auto-exchanging pool - www.middlecoin.com  (Read 829874 times)
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January 20, 2014, 04:51:02 PM
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hey guys i have been mining at middlecoin for couple of days with my little rig ( 1.3mh atm) (one gpu broken atm =[ )

http://www.middlecoin.com/reports/1CyfVtvNzsy3V9auznXeg7Ncyq818QMYJq.html
what hapended to that 0.01581896 BTC ? cant find it anywhere

also having ur WU 100%+ is beter then having high hash right? (my 7850's are on 90-110% wu atm but my 6970 is on like 70% )


Blockchain info shows the 0.01581896 paid out to your wallet ID.  If you're not seeing it in your wallet, are you sure the Wallet ID is correct for your miner/Middlecoin?

The WU is your accepted work effort so it's always better to have that higher regardless of hashrate CGMiner shows.  But with that said... you want the highest absolute value of WU too... so higher hashrate with higher WU is best... Higher hashrate with lower percentage of WU, but still higher than previous test absolute values is still good.

WU:2496.2/m  if your hashrate is 2.757Mh/s  -OK
WU:2560.2/m  if your hashrate is 2.757Mh/s  -Better
WU:2658.2/m  if your hashrate is 2.543Mh/s  -Best

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January 20, 2014, 04:51:57 PM
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I have been reading this thread for a while and i understand what you mean, People do jump to conclusions, But what do you think the reason is for so many flat lines lately ? I mean, It seems to me everytime the site backs up with a lot of unexchanged coins the stats get switched off , Any ideas why?

By the way I'm not complaining because the pool has been paying me well since i started using it.

There's been flat lines lately because we're got over 15Gh/s worth of users generating a lot of database transactions, and the statistical software (apparently) doesn't scale too well with that. It also usually happens while h2o is sleeping, he is still somewhat human, so he needs a few hours of shut eye every night. During the day he is monitoring the pool software and can catch problems before they start.

Sure I can understand its a fair amount of data, And that it might be sketchy software/ Poor server hardware.

What I don't get is a pool that's actively paying out on a daily basis upwards of £100,000 is coming to a standstill statistically, Because one man goes to sleep, (While we just so happen to have massive amounts of unexchanged)

The handling of the site and the pool and the data, If you don't mind me saying, ''Should'' now be treated with a higher amount of urgency because of the status it has achieved.

Or perhaps I'm wrong and we should all accept a man that's earning £3000 a day can just forget about it until hes ready to wake up ?
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January 20, 2014, 04:53:10 PM
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hey guys i have been mining at middlecoin for couple of days with my little rig ( 1.3mh atm) (one gpu broken atm =[ )

http://www.middlecoin.com/reports/1CyfVtvNzsy3V9auznXeg7Ncyq818QMYJq.html
what hapended to that 0.01581896 BTC ? cant find it anywhere

also having ur WU 100%+ is beter then having high hash right? (my 7850's are on 90-110% wu atm but my 6970 is on like 70% )


Blockchain info shows the 0.01581896 paid out to your wallet ID.  If you're not seeing it in your wallet, are you sure the Wallet ID is correct for your miner/Middlecoin?

The WU is your accepted work effort so it's always better to have that higher regardless of hashrate CGMiner shows.

thanks for the info il see i i can improve my Wu
so even if i lower my Hash by 20% but gain 30% wu its beter?

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January 20, 2014, 04:55:35 PM
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hey guys i have been mining at middlecoin for couple of days with my little rig ( 1.3mh atm) (one gpu broken atm =[ )

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also having ur WU 100%+ is beter then having high hash right? (my 7850's are on 90-110% wu atm but my 6970 is on like 70% )


Edit: nvm did something wrong whasnt even my adress.

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January 20, 2014, 04:59:06 PM
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Or perhaps I'm wrong and we should all accept a man that's earning £3000 a day can just forget about it until hes ready to wake up ?

Or maybe we should all point our rigs elsewhere while he's asleep?

And when he finally awakes, SURPRISE! Smiley
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January 20, 2014, 05:02:00 PM
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Or perhaps I'm wrong and we should all accept a man that's earning £3000 a day can just forget about it until hes ready to wake up ?

Or maybe we should all point our rigs elsewhere while he's asleep?

And when he's finally awakes, SURPRISE! Smiley

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January 20, 2014, 05:03:38 PM
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Or perhaps I'm wrong and we should all accept a man that's earning £3000 a day can just forget about it until hes ready to wake up ?

Or maybe we should all point our rigs elsewhere while he's asleep?

And when he's finally awakes, SURPRISE! Smiley

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January 20, 2014, 05:06:12 PM
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 Grin

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Last edit: January 20, 2014, 05:24:14 PM by The Fat Miner
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I noticed the price of coins in general has risen today, Or at least the top three, So was looking forward to a good payout tomorrow, That's what i get for counting chickens  Sad
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January 20, 2014, 05:13:17 PM
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I'm basing it on one of H20's last posts here...

The US server now has the new code, which doesn't disconnect on coin switches. It's bugged to have 1% extra rejects, which show up as "duplicate shares".

Of course that could also mean he subsequently pushed that code to the the non-beta server too...but why do that if he was going to replace middlecoin.com with the front-server that would switch you to your regional server eventually anyway.  I know I wouldn't change the existing stable server until all the beta's are done and then I would update it.  But you're right, that part is definitely an assumption.  H20 hasn't said either way.

But USEast (and EU and Asia) are definitely on a new and different codebase than what was there in December.

Read these posts to clear up your confusion:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=259649.msg4374100#msg4374100
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=259649.msg4357914#msg4357914

I read these two posts as all servers are running the same code base and the 1% rejects have been fixed.
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January 20, 2014, 05:14:02 PM
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I have been reading this thread for a while and i understand what you mean, People do jump to conclusions, But what do you think the reason is for so many flat lines lately ? I mean, It seems to me everytime the site backs up with a lot of unexchanged coins the stats get switched off , Any ideas why?

By the way I'm not complaining because the pool has been paying me well since i started using it.

There's been flat lines lately because we're got over 15Gh/s worth of users generating a lot of database transactions, and the statistical software (apparently) doesn't scale too well with that. It also usually happens while h2o is sleeping, he is still somewhat human, so he needs a few hours of shut eye every night. During the day he is monitoring the pool software and can catch problems before they start.

Sure I can understand its a fair amount of data, And that it might be sketchy software/ Poor server hardware.

What I don't get is a pool that's actively paying out on a daily basis upwards of £100,000 is coming to a standstill statistically, Because one man goes to sleep, (While we just so happen to have massive amounts of unexchanged)

The handling of the site and the pool and the data, If you don't mind me saying, ''Should'' now be treated with a higher amount of urgency because of the status it has achieved.

Or perhaps I'm wrong and we should all accept a man that's earning £3000 a day can just forget about it until hes ready to wake up ?
Why is it your concern how much h20 is earning?  Envy?  Jealousy?

You don't like it, find another pool.  As long as my earnings here exceed those of any other functioning multi-pool with automatic BTC payout, I couldn't care less how much he earns.

H2O is running a profit-making business.  He doesn't attempt to hide how much he's making or how much he charges for his services.  If it seems excessive to you, then move along, or start your own pool--maybe you can earn big bucks too.
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January 20, 2014, 05:14:46 PM
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With these higher payouts the last couple of days, I'm wondering, has anyone been mining elsewhere [Suspicious link removed]?) and had the same increase there?

Or is this just a middlecoin thing?

(seriously)
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January 20, 2014, 05:17:55 PM
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I have been reading this thread for a while and i understand what you mean, People do jump to conclusions, But what do you think the reason is for so many flat lines lately ? I mean, It seems to me everytime the site backs up with a lot of unexchanged coins the stats get switched off , Any ideas why?

By the way I'm not complaining because the pool has been paying me well since i started using it.

There's been flat lines lately because we're got over 15Gh/s worth of users generating a lot of database transactions, and the statistical software (apparently) doesn't scale too well with that. It also usually happens while h2o is sleeping, he is still somewhat human, so he needs a few hours of shut eye every night. During the day he is monitoring the pool software and can catch problems before they start.

Sure I can understand its a fair amount of data, And that it might be sketchy software/ Poor server hardware.

What I don't get is a pool that's actively paying out on a daily basis upwards of £100,000 is coming to a standstill statistically, Because one man goes to sleep, (While we just so happen to have massive amounts of unexchanged)

The handling of the site and the pool and the data, If you don't mind me saying, ''Should'' now be treated with a higher amount of urgency because of the status it has achieved.

Or perhaps I'm wrong and we should all accept a man that's earning £3000 a day can just forget about it until hes ready to wake up ?
Why is it your concern how much h20 is earning?  Envy?  Jealousy?

You don't like it, find another pool.  As long as my earnings here exceed those of any other functioning multi-pool with automatic BTC payout, I couldn't care less how much he earns.

H2O is running a profit-making business.  He doesn't attempt to hide how much he's making or how much he charges for his services.  If it seems excessive to you, then move along, or start your own pool--maybe you can earn big bucks too.

Where did i say it was excessive ? I've not once said I envy him or am I jealous, Good luck to him, Theres no need for you to go telling everyone to get lost because they have an opinion.
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January 20, 2014, 05:26:14 PM
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The handling of the site and the pool and the data, If you don't mind me saying, ''Should'' now be treated with a higher amount of urgency because of the status it has achieved.

Or perhaps I'm wrong and we should all accept a man that's earning £3000 a day can just forget about it until hes ready to wake up ?


I guess you will get some flame from this ... but you deserve it a bit.
The pool is still an one man army and it does seem like it was designed that way. For somebody like you, who is worried for some meaningless stats, this might be important. For the other part of us, who looks at the transactions to out wallets, this means nothing. After all, we are here to GET PAID and having every minute stats is just an extra.

If you are saying h2o should skip sleep because you want your stats... think again and move on. I think he should get as much sleep as he needs so he can be with a fresh mind and work on bottom line improvements.

And he is earning the amount because there are results from his work. Soon it might be £3000/hour and this again will be because of the bottom line results and not because of the every minute stats.

Now stop being stats-addict and find something meaningful to do during your day instead of hitting that F5 button.

All this also applies to all you other stats-addicts.
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January 20, 2014, 05:30:18 PM
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Seems like the stats are frozen again..no tweets

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January 20, 2014, 05:31:00 PM
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Noticing that the web stats are flat lining.  Generally I wouldn't have a problem with a database problem anywhere else as it shouldn't impact payouts since we are still mining.

However, there does seem to be some correlation here at Middlecoin between flat lining web stats (read: database issues) and poor payouts.  I am hoping this isn't the case as we have been kicking ass for several days in a row now and there is no reason today's payout should come in less than 25% (or more) than yesterdays unless it's because of unexchanged.
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January 20, 2014, 05:34:52 PM
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Noticing that the web stats are flat lining.  Generally I wouldn't have a problem with a database problem anywhere else as it shouldn't impact payouts since we are still mining.

However, there does seem to be some correlation here at Middlecoin between flat lining web stats (read: database issues) and poor payouts.  I am hoping this isn't the case as we have been kicking ass for several days in a row now and there is no reason today's payout should come in less than 25% (or more) than yesterdays unless it's because of unexchanged.

I guess you've also noticed that even if one day we get low payouts ... we catch up the next couple of days... if not, look closed at the previous stats
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January 20, 2014, 05:36:59 PM
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What I don't get is a pool that's actively paying out on a daily basis upwards of £100,000 is coming to a standstill statistically, Because one man goes to sleep, (While we just so happen to have massive amounts of unexchanged)

The handling of the site and the pool and the data, If you don't mind me saying, ''Should'' now be treated with a higher amount of urgency because of the status it has achieved.

Or perhaps I'm wrong and we should all accept a man that's earning £3000 a day can just forget about it until hes ready to wake up ?

Why is it your concern how much h20 is earning?  Envy?  Jealousy?

Err.. But that's not what the man was saying, not at all.

Oh, and what a great "shut the f**k up or get the f** out" comeback to a reasonable observation (slow applause). After 20 pages or so, it was long overdue Wink

Damn miners, coming here and questioning the operation of a pool they share 3% with!

Next thing you know they'll be questioning the rock as well! Heresy I tells ya, pure heresy!!

But seriously, I think the man raised a valid point. An operation this big shouldn't depend on one man.

"it's just a display issue, will be fixed soon"?

True, but anything could be happening to the pool when stats are down and no one would ever know about it. It's not like they are ever corrected afterwards (or even could be corrected, since coingeek simply captures the real-time values).

So for all we know the pool could go caca-cuckoo while the stats are down and/or the operator's asleep.
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January 20, 2014, 05:38:10 PM
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Could someone intelligent please explain something to me.

One of my cards (290) has the following stats:

HRA: 870 kh/s
Rejects: 3.6%
WU: 811.7/m
HW: 0

So by my calculations the efficiency is 101.9%

efficiency = WU * 65536 / 60 / 1000 / HRA
(*100 to get res. as %)

How can it be that high with 3.6% rejects?

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January 20, 2014, 05:38:54 PM
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Wonder if H2o is/has considered bringing on a SQL programmer, even on a limited basis, to help him out with the DB issues?  Seems like we are averaging one or two issues a week now.
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