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October 01, 2013, 07:08:57 PM
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I pulled the classic 'insert the h-board the wrong way' blunder today and the h-board isn't working now. 

Does this look like the problem?



the chip at F01I has some pitting on the edges.  Is this something I can replace?

/cet
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October 01, 2013, 08:08:29 PM
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I pulled the classic 'insert the h-board the wrong way' blunder today and the h-board isn't working now. 

Does this look like the problem?



the chip at F01I has some pitting on the edges.  Is this something I can replace?

/cet

The chip F01I is a fuse, if you insert card opposite way the fuse is dead for sure, and if you are lucky that can be the only problem with that card.

Cheers,
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October 01, 2013, 08:46:47 PM
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The chip F01I is a fuse, if you insert card opposite way the fuse is dead for sure, and if you are lucky that can be the only problem with that card.
Cheers,

so is there a part number for the fuse?  of just wire around it?
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October 01, 2013, 08:54:46 PM
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EDIT:

Or better still:

CFLAGS="-O2 -Wall -march=armv6 -mfloat-abi=hard -mfpu=vfp" ./configure --enable-bitfury -disable-avalon --disable-opencl --disable-bitforce --enable-icarus --disable-modminer --disable-x6500 --disable-ztex --disable-littlefury --disable-bigpic --enable-bfsb

So I went and compiled latest code from git, bitfury branch; there is a bitfury_dynclock branch which I did not test because it was a little bit older than bitfury's one.

I had to install all missing dependencies but I got it running.

Here, if you trust me, the executable

https://mega.co.nz/#!jMZnmAAK!RpwUtWO8MfXjStxyOVZmohZpKcN1zLDkq7CcujEf5wQ

MD5: 21bb61a0cc71efe973370886dac5e557

This is an ephemeral link, so I don't know how long it will last.

Hash wise, chainminer is a lot better, I had 115-130 GH reported by bfgminer after 5 minutes of hashing instead of 180-188 nonce rate from chainminer.

It has to be run as root and with -S auto otherwise it does not find H-boards.

Code:
sudo ./bfgminer -o stratum.hhtt.1209k.com:3333 -u 1..... -p xx -S auto

Code:
bfgminer version 3.1.4 - Started: [2013-10-01 20:45:11] - [  0 days 00:02:02]
 [M]anage devices [P]ool management [S]ettings [D]isplay options  [H]elp [Q]uit
 Connected to stratum.hhtt.1209k.com diff 128 with stratum as user 1....
 Block: ...69850ea7 #261155  Diff:149M ( 1.07Ph/s)  Started: [20:45:10]
 ST:2  F:0  NB:1  AS:0  BW:[ 67/ 46 B/s]  E:533.83  U:14.0/m  BS:35.6k
 1/96         | 131.0/145.9/118.8Gh/s | A:26 R:0+0(none) HW:4906/ 12%
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 BFY 0:       |   0.0/  0.0/  0.0 h/s | A: 0 R:0+0(none) HW:   0/none
 BSB 0:       | 145.9/146.7/126.9Gh/s | A:28 R:0+0(none) HW:5059/ 12%
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 [2013-10-01 20:47:01] Chip_id 7 FREQ CHANGE
 [2013-10-01 20:47:01] Chip_id 8 FREQ CHANGE
 [2013-10-01 20:47:01] Chip_id 9 FREQ CHANGE
 [2013-10-01 20:47:01] Chip_id 10 FREQ CHANGE
 [2013-10-01 20:47:01] vvvvwww SHORT stat 10s: wwwvvvv
 [2013-10-01 20:47:01] stranges: 0
 [2013-10-01 20:47:01] 0.0-  0 0.0-  0 0.0-  0 0.0-  0 0.0-  0 0.0-  0 0.0-  0 0.0-  0 0.0-  0 0.0-  0 0.0-  0 - 0.0 + 0.0 = 0.0 slot 0
 [2013-10-01 20:47:01] Accepted 00c97b2d BSB 0ce Diff 325/128
 [2013-10-01 20:47:02] Stratum from pool 0 requested work update

So I decided to try to use it as a proxy, instead of slush's provided one which does not work with p2pool, but it does not work.

Chainminer connects to it on port 8332 but all submitted shares are counted as hardware errors by bfgminer which does not submit any share to the stratum pool. I've tested it with p2pool and HHTT, same result.

To sum it all: it is a very early beta and has a long way to go before reaching chainminer speed and fine-tuning abilities (there is no way yet, or I was not able to find it, to set single chip speed, for example).

Maybe it could be easier to just add stratum support to chainminer...

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October 01, 2013, 09:14:28 PM
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The chip F01I is a fuse, if you insert card opposite way the fuse is dead for sure, and if you are lucky that can be the only problem with that card.
Cheers,

so is there a part number for the fuse?  of just wire around it?

This might be the fuse you are looking for.  I'd confirm the dimensions.

http://www.sealand-pptc.com/pro/1n4ipk20101019141253.pdf

edit - not sure what voltage you would need.  Its also a resettable fuse so check resistance with a multimeter.  If it has returned to a conducting state and the board still isn't working then something else has fried.
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October 01, 2013, 09:41:16 PM
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The chip F01I is a fuse, if you insert card opposite way the fuse is dead for sure, and if you are lucky that can be the only problem with that card.
Cheers,

so is there a part number for the fuse?  of just wire around it?

2920L300/15DR (Littlefuse)

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October 01, 2013, 10:46:23 PM
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The chip F01I is a fuse, if you insert card opposite way the fuse is dead for sure, and if you are lucky that can be the only problem with that card.
Cheers,

so is there a part number for the fuse?  of just wire around it?

2920L300/15DR (Littlefuse)

intron

Thanks intron. 

An ohm meter shows the fuze is still closed.  I tried plugging the h-board into a different rig and it works, so my problem is in the m-board side.

/cet
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October 01, 2013, 11:28:12 PM
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Guys, I want to know who has the highest clock rates.   Does anyone have over 40GH/s per card or close to it?

 I was able to get about 43GH/s for 1 card.  Most cards run ~35-36GH/s though.  one runs 31 GH/s

Please post your epic results and if you have 35+ please post your resistor settings, if you used heatsinks and what other cooling you have.

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October 02, 2013, 01:05:17 AM
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Guys, I want to know who has the highest clock rates.   Does anyone have over 40GH/s per card or close to it?

 I was able to get about 43GH/s for 1 card.  Most cards run ~35-36GH/s though.  one runs 31 GH/s

Please post your epic results and if you have 35+ please post your resistor settings, if you used heatsinks and what other cooling you have.

Smiley

just tweaked mine today.

BEFORE: 1.130K at cold state = 0.788 V    ------> unknown hot state resistance = 0.808 V     ---> 39.5GH average
NOW:     1.100K at cold state = 0.815 V   ------> unknown hot state resistance = 0.834 V     ----> 42.0GH average (based on 2.5hours)

I am using small chip-sized heatsink on 14/16 chips (i need more lol - and its been suggested that backside cooling may be optimal) and have 5 1"x1" heatsinks on the back, centered over the 4 capacitor clusters and in the center of the board. a 120mm fan is aimed at the back and the front is cooled by a 60mm and an 80mm fan on opposite sides

I don't intend to push further until I know that:
a) the chips can handle a certain amount of heat (if they can handle 70% of what asicminer does, then ive got a lot of headroom)
b) what the 30A converter can handle and its failure mode(s) (intron suggested that they simply switch off at overvolt/overheat)

The heat issue seems minimal so long as the chips can handle some warth and voltage. The issue lies in the 30A limit. If my 'math' is right, the chips use around 0.8-0.9w/GH at 2.65GH/s * 16 chips * 0.835 V = 28.3-31.8 A. The other components may draw additional power on top of this...?

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October 02, 2013, 01:18:54 AM
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Guys, I want to know who has the highest clock rates.   Does anyone have over 40GH/s per card or close to it?

 I was able to get about 43GH/s for 1 card.  Most cards run ~35-36GH/s though.  one runs 31 GH/s

Please post your epic results and if you have 35+ please post your resistor settings, if you used heatsinks and what other cooling you have.

Smiley

Here. Resistor at 1.1KOhms, along with heatsinks for each hashing chip Smiley

Code:
0: 811 37.781 38.463 2639 81 0 0 16 0 0 (2.361/chip) 97%
1: 871 37.223 37.892 2600 83 0 0 16 0 0 (2.326/chip) 99%

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October 02, 2013, 06:21:07 AM
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When you reverse a board in the M-BOARD connector, it doesn't swap GND with 12V wires, but it swaps the GND/12V with the 1.8V SPI section on the other side, and it puts the 12V straight into the chips. Especially the first and last chip in the chain will get the full effect, and are the most likely to fry.  The power regulator may still be okay. The fuse is probably still good too.

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October 02, 2013, 06:30:59 AM
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It's nice of the chips to sacrifice themselves to protect the fuse like that....  Wink

A little power-grinder work, and you're back in business in no time, eh?  I personally would spend the time to cut traces, but I guess if you are in a really big hurry and all, like some folks around here, the grinder might be faster....
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October 02, 2013, 12:00:18 PM
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It's nice of the chips to sacrifice themselves to protect the fuse like that....  Wink

A little power-grinder work, and you're back in business in no time, eh?  I personally would spend the time to cut traces, but I guess if you are in a really big hurry and all, like some folks around here, the grinder might be faster....


Can anyone assist me with figuring out what traces to cut for bypassing #25? U4B chip I assume.

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speed:1320 noncerate[GH/s]:46.787 (1.871/chip) hashrate[GH/s]:48.980 good:3268 errors:184 spi-err:0 miso-err:0 jobs:376 cores:95% good:24 bad:$
0:      880     30.308  31.994  2117    117     0       0       16      0       0       (1.894/chip)    100%
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October 02, 2013, 12:09:52 PM
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Guys, I want to know who has the highest clock rates.   Does anyone have over 40GH/s per card or close to it?
 I was able to get about 43GH/s for 1 card.  Most cards run ~35-36GH/s though.  one runs 31 GH/s
Please post your epic results and if you have 35+ please post your resistor settings, if you used heatsinks and what other cooling you have.

It seems to be really board dependent but with a general resistor setting of about 1.15k I see anywhere from 30Gh/s up to 40. I am not using any heatsinks right now just 3x120mm fans blowing at them.

Cooling seems to be the factor for stability at the higher voltages as I have had stable boards start to lose hashrate and go to 0Gh/s and back again when temps go up, and even when they don't.  Wink

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October 02, 2013, 12:51:48 PM
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Guys, I want to know who has the highest clock rates.   Does anyone have over 40GH/s per card or close to it?
 I was able to get about 43GH/s for 1 card.  Most cards run ~35-36GH/s though.  one runs 31 GH/s
Please post your epic results and if you have 35+ please post your resistor settings, if you used heatsinks and what other cooling you have.

It seems to be really board dependent but with a general resistor setting of about 1.15k I see anywhere from 30Gh/s up to 40. I am not using any heatsinks right now just 3x120mm fans blowing at them.

Cooling seems to be the factor for stability at the higher voltages as I have had stable boards start to lose hashrate and go to 0Gh/s and back again when temps go up, and even when they don't.  Wink

Hi All, which components seem to need the most cooling (obviously the chips need cooling, but are there other hotspots?) Is this loss of hashrate related to the voltage regulator overheating and shutting down (I think I remember reading somewhere that this could protect itself in this way)? If so, is the voltage regulator designed to loose heat through its top surface or through the board (as this will affect where we put a heatsink)?

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October 02, 2013, 12:55:07 PM
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It's nice of the chips to sacrifice themselves to protect the fuse like that....  Wink

A little power-grinder work, and you're back in business in no time, eh?  I personally would spend the time to cut traces, but I guess if you are in a really big hurry and all, like some folks around here, the grinder might be faster....

Using a grinder and pulling it off gets you the most respect though Wink!

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October 02, 2013, 12:59:36 PM
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Guys, I want to know who has the highest clock rates.   Does anyone have over 40GH/s per card or close to it?
 I was able to get about 43GH/s for 1 card.  Most cards run ~35-36GH/s though.  one runs 31 GH/s
Please post your epic results and if you have 35+ please post your resistor settings, if you used heatsinks and what other cooling you have.

It seems to be really board dependent but with a general resistor setting of about 1.15k I see anywhere from 30Gh/s up to 40. I am not using any heatsinks right now just 3x120mm fans blowing at them.

Cooling seems to be the factor for stability at the higher voltages as I have had stable boards start to lose hashrate and go to 0Gh/s and back again when temps go up, and even when they don't.  Wink

Hi All, which components seem to need the most cooling (obviously the chips need cooling, but are there other hotspots?) Is this loss of hashrate related to the voltage regulator overheating and shutting down (I think I remember reading somewhere that this could protect itself in this way)? If so, is the voltage regulator designed to loose heat through its top surface or through the board (as this will affect where we put a heatsink)?

I haven't been able to tell yet if the hashrate decreases because of the regulator or due to increased errors forcing the autotune to downclock the chips. I need to turn off autotune and see but considering the hardware cost I really don't play with it much.  Just keep hashing....just keep hashing. Grin

The regulator is very hot on the surface and not really hot at all on the backside. (finger test)  the chips are hot on both sides.

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October 02, 2013, 01:36:07 PM
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Guys, I want to know who has the highest clock rates.   Does anyone have over 40GH/s per card or close to it?
 I was able to get about 43GH/s for 1 card.  Most cards run ~35-36GH/s though.  one runs 31 GH/s
Please post your epic results and if you have 35+ please post your resistor settings, if you used heatsinks and what other cooling you have.

It seems to be really board dependent but with a general resistor setting of about 1.15k I see anywhere from 30Gh/s up to 40. I am not using any heatsinks right now just 3x120mm fans blowing at them.

Cooling seems to be the factor for stability at the higher voltages as I have had stable boards start to lose hashrate and go to 0Gh/s and back again when temps go up, and even when they don't.  Wink

Hi All, which components seem to need the most cooling (obviously the chips need cooling, but are there other hotspots?) Is this loss of hashrate related to the voltage regulator overheating and shutting down (I think I remember reading somewhere that this could protect itself in this way)? If so, is the voltage regulator designed to loose heat through its top surface or through the board (as this will affect where we put a heatsink)?

I haven't been able to tell yet if the hashrate decreases because of the regulator or due to increased errors forcing the autotune to downclock the chips. I need to turn off autotune and see but considering the hardware cost I really don't play with it much.  Just keep hashing....just keep hashing. Grin

The regulator is very hot on the surface and not really hot at all on the backside. (finger test)  the chips are hot on both sides.

Great, thanks, so it sounds like it's worth us putting a heatsink on the top side of the regulator then (in addition to chip heatsinks). That's good to know.

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October 02, 2013, 01:39:26 PM
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Ugh.. great, my EOL card just went to all 0s.
Took 2 power disconnects to get it back working.
This is a weekly occurrence.

Now stat.log is thinking I have 171 chips on 2 cards. lol

                                 
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October 02, 2013, 02:22:40 PM
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Guys, I want to know who has the highest clock rates.   Does anyone have over 40GH/s per card or close to it?
 I was able to get about 43GH/s for 1 card.  Most cards run ~35-36GH/s though.  one runs 31 GH/s
Please post your epic results and if you have 35+ please post your resistor settings, if you used heatsinks and what other cooling you have.

It seems to be really board dependent but with a general resistor setting of about 1.15k I see anywhere from 30Gh/s up to 40. I am not using any heatsinks right now just 3x120mm fans blowing at them.

Cooling seems to be the factor for stability at the higher voltages as I have had stable boards start to lose hashrate and go to 0Gh/s and back again when temps go up, and even when they don't.  Wink

Hi All, which components seem to need the most cooling (obviously the chips need cooling, but are there other hotspots?) Is this loss of hashrate related to the voltage regulator overheating and shutting down (I think I remember reading somewhere that this could protect itself in this way)? If so, is the voltage regulator designed to loose heat through its top surface or through the board (as this will affect where we put a heatsink)?

I haven't been able to tell yet if the hashrate decreases because of the regulator or due to increased errors forcing the autotune to downclock the chips. I need to turn off autotune and see but considering the hardware cost I really don't play with it much.  Just keep hashing....just keep hashing. Grin

The regulator is very hot on the surface and not really hot at all on the backside. (finger test)  the chips are hot on both sides.

Great, thanks, so it sounds like it's worth us putting a heatsink on the top side of the regulator then (in addition to chip heatsinks). That's good to know.


I put 2 small heatsinks on my regulator and they get quite warm/hot weven with good airflow. chip voltage is around 0.834V once the resistor is up to temp (starts up from cold state at about 0.815V)

however, ive recently seen it go from 2-4hrs at 40+GH down to 20 for 5-15 minutes, then climb back again. autotune is off (most chips at 53/54) so i dont know if the board or the chips are behind the issue. voltage seems constant as far as i can tell

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