spiccioli
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May 03, 2014, 09:13:52 AM |
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If bitmine doesn't refund me in time (May 10th), I'll go for it. I'll set up the complaint by myself, will somehow get it translated to Italian and will hand it over to a lawyer working in Bellinzona (already found a good one). If you live in antoher canton in Switzerland or outside Switzerland, you don't have to attend at the conciliation proceedings nor at the courttrial. The lawyercosts for the concilliation proceedings are about USD 1000, since the lawyer doesn't have to draft the lawsuit. The costs for the concilliation proceedings are about USD 220, but the unsuccessful party has to cover thes costs.
If I have to go that far, I'll share my lawsuit draft with all you guys, so you just have to fill in your name / dates etc. and provide me or the lawyer with the necessary evidence (e-mails). If we hand over all the lawsuits together to the lawyer, accoring to the "Joinder of actions", the costs of the lawyer will be a lot cheaper.
Why am I doing this?
You're already not alone for that joinder of cause  Count me in for at least one unit for which refund is long due. For the other one, I need to wait for tomorrow (if we consider February 2014 as a five weeks month) or May 10th if we consider it as a four weeks month . spiccioli If you had delivery last week february then you have to wait until May 10th I had not delivery February last week, but February week 4. This year February had 5 weeks. spiccioli |
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Wolke
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May 03, 2014, 11:10:18 AM |
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is here somebody how got some btc, USD, Euro or something else like money from them back?
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May 03, 2014, 11:11:19 AM |
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May 03, 2014, 11:14:12 AM |
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I really thing it would be helpfull to do an extra thread for organising a lawsuit. And maybe do the most via private message, not sure, if bitmine.ch can take an advantage of your information. Dont give them more news ans they gave you  As I know you can force an bankruptcy while "taking" out the money. And if bitmine.ch know what going on in detail.....Im not saying bitmine will do it, but I only can repeat myself, from now on Im expecting any dirty move... For me it really looks like its not worth putting any more money and effort in it. I close the case for my self. As I wrote they sent the miner out allready - too late (after 71 days - after I sent the refund form)- but they did. I lost money cause I allready sold that preorder, and I had to refund that guy a week ago (ebay 30 days preorder fullfillment rule) and with the machine will be no ROI and I cant even sell it for the price I paid... Wish you all guys good luck! And Ill follow your action with interest! |
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May 03, 2014, 11:37:37 AM |
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Got my 1Ths Unit working with new Firmware.
i choose different Settings ( Powersafe Ultra till Turbo max )
the Best Choice is :
Nominal Settings = 1020-1040 GHs to 1030 W out of the Wall.
Powersafe suxxs ! getting 800 GHs for 760 W !
Thats NOT what Bitmine/Specs said .
Its an Enermax built in PSU from Bitmine with 1300W (? )
If you going to TurboMode u can get max 1200 GHs but draws 1800-1900 W out of the Wall ;-(
I choose to leave it to nominal (normal ) Mode an get 1W/1Ghs
Then i reassign my Hex8A1 260 Unit with 226 Ghs to 280 Watts
Complet Rig = approx. 1300 Watt for 1250-1280 GHs
Overclock suxxs cause to much Power.
Thats all.
BTW : How can ich choose to switch Pools at the Minersettings, i can only Load Balance,Failover or Balance the Pools
I cant SWITCH Pools in the Settings or must set all to the same Pool or choose Failover and set the First Pool.
Does anybody use CGRemote for the CCD ?
Greetz Glen
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swissmining
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May 03, 2014, 11:54:32 AM |
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omg guys, just checked my bankaccount an guess what: I got refunded today in USD. Bitmine executed the order of payment yesterday. They also paid me the additional 10% (minus USD 40 for banking and whatever fees).
So it "only" took them 22 days after bitmine confirmed, that my refund request has been forwarded to their credit team.
It seems like they selectively refund people, depending on how much pressure you put on them. It took a lot of energy to do this. Thank you for nothing Giorgio. I'm just glad this nightmare has ended.
For me, there is no reason to action against them anymore. But im willing to provice you guys with necesary information regarding the swiss legal system.
Kind regards
swissmining
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spiccioli
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May 03, 2014, 12:08:04 PM |
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omg guys, just checked my bankaccount an guess what: I got refunded today in USD. Bitmine executed the order of payment yesterday. They also paid me the additional 10% (minus USD 40 for banking and whatever fees).
So it "only" took them 22 days after bitmine confirmed, that my refund request has been forwarded to their credit team.
It seems like they selectively refund people, depending on how much pressure you put on them. It took a lot of energy to do this. Thank you for nothing Giorgio. I'm just glad this nightmare has ended.
For me, there is no reason to action against them anymore. But im willing to provice you guys with necesary information regarding the swiss legal system.
Kind regards
swissmining
Glad for you, I'll contact you in the coming days if they don't refund my first unit (I've got a BTC refund) to start a legal action agains them. Best regards. spiccioli |
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stevebrowne
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May 03, 2014, 12:32:09 PM |
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Excellent result swissmining.
Still awaiting my BTC refund however, which is due on Monday. Hopefully it will be paid so I don't have to follow your route, or the route I mentioned previously about penning an article for places like The Register and the Daily Mail. They love a bit of Bitcoin controversy.
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atta2k15
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May 03, 2014, 01:25:53 PM |
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Eureka, Desk running on debian!!!  Still some fine-tuning has to be done, but its running now on WIFI. Front of desk showing the WIFI usb  inside screen: (Session in background)  and Bitmine control panel:  |
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glen123
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May 03, 2014, 01:38:32 PM |
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Hi
@atta2k15
got an SD Image to replace the Original Software ?
Can you describe an "howto" ?
Greetz Glen
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atta2k15
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May 03, 2014, 01:45:37 PM |
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Hi
@atta2k15
got an SD Image to replace the Original Software ?
Can you describe an "howto" ?
Greetz Glen
working on that, first fine tuning then make SD card image make manual |
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glen123
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May 03, 2014, 01:54:12 PM |
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Thanks
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May 03, 2014, 03:27:17 PM |
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Collider
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May 03, 2014, 03:39:49 PM |
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I dont think so, do you need an additional PCIE connector from the PSU to a mining module? |
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May 03, 2014, 03:43:52 PM |
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That PSU has already got 10 Pcie connectors, you only need 5 per miner, so you should be good. |
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May 03, 2014, 03:46:27 PM |
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That PSU has already got 10 Pcie connectors, you only need 5 per miner, so you should be good.
so i need an adapter from the 8pin cpu to 6 pin pci.... for the rail v2 |
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glen123
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May 03, 2014, 03:49:53 PM |
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@Wolke :
Did you think its lower the HW Error Rate if all Modules get 30 A ?
Greetz Glen
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May 03, 2014, 03:54:12 PM |
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4 30A rails are able to handle at least 4*30*12=1440W of power draw, so easily enough for one miner.
Under normal circumstances there is even more room for power draw as the PSU won´t immediatly shut off when 1440 on the 12V rails is reached.
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Wolke
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May 03, 2014, 03:54:29 PM |
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@Wolke :
Did you think its lower the HW Error Rate if all Modules get 30 A ?
Greetz Glen
the problem is that i can't go higher than "turbo light" -> in each higher mode the psu shutdown after 30 - 60 minutes.... and in the extreme turbo mode the psu shutdown after 2 sec. 
so i need an adapter... or an technical person how can tell me in details how to build... |
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