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August 12, 2014, 05:41:10 AM
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well my X1 arrived safe and sound and is now hashing away on mining rig rentals. if you are waiting for that LCD, its pretty useless. just log into the system via the web ip and it has a decent HUD of whats happening with the miner.

did you receive any compensation?


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August 12, 2014, 08:11:04 AM
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X1s arrived today with LCDs.
https://i.imgur.com/n9mKtv8.jpg?1
Running is my quickly setup chrome browser, next firmware/software update will bundle it all nicely together. Otherwise its a full android 4.2.2 machine with ethernet.
Came with power cord?
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August 12, 2014, 10:12:40 AM
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X1s arrived today with LCDs.
Running is my quickly setup chrome browser, next firmware/software update will bundle it all nicely together. Otherwise its a full android 4.2.2 machine with ethernet.
Came with power cord?

I doubt it, the battery icon is reading 75%.


Ahahahaha that's really funny... did they tape a tablet into it and forgot to plug it in???
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August 12, 2014, 10:36:54 AM
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If it IS a cellphone, we could use GPRS/UMTS for Internet instead of LAN/WIFI :-)
THAT would be cool ... !
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August 12, 2014, 11:04:02 AM
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I just can't believe how many BTC we've all missed out on because of the delays since Feb, and how we've been strung along endlessly. Most likely I will never see any miners or in fact anything from them. 
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August 12, 2014, 03:31:40 PM
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well my X1 arrived safe and sound and is now hashing away on mining rig rentals. if you are waiting for that LCD, its pretty useless. just log into the system via the web ip and it has a decent HUD of whats happening with the miner.

Congrats on that! Would you let us know the date your order was paid in full?

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August 12, 2014, 04:22:12 PM
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well i got my shipping confirmation from MS that my X1 is on the way, unfortunately, they shipped it to the wrong address.

Could you tell us what order date?
15 April 2014
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August 12, 2014, 04:36:59 PM
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well i got my shipping confirmation from MS that my X1 is on the way, unfortunately, they shipped it to the wrong address.

Could you tell us what order date?
15 April 2014

Order date means nothing,Apr/15/14 is when he got the NEW order # The date he PAID for his order is the important date!

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August 12, 2014, 06:35:25 PM
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I predict no one will get any compensation units regardless if they bought the PSU for it already or not. ROI on the prices we payed in 2013 are pretty much not going to happen at this point. BA won't drop the price of their miners until B1 and B2 are all shipped and at the rate they're going it's going to be months before that's finished.

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August 12, 2014, 07:34:33 PM
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UPDATE: So, Dan Murtha decided to reach out to me in order to fix the situation. He asked me how much store credit I thought was fair and I said $1200 since that's how much I lost in the refund. I also said that I'd be willing to accept two S3s as well. He offered me $1000 credit and I agreed.
I hereby rescind/renounce/repudiate/abjure all the negative things I've said about Minersource and I will be sure to edit all recent posts referencing them to reflect this update.
Thanks Minersource for doing the right thing in the end.

Cool, now will minersource start refunds for other customers who are still waiting?

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August 12, 2014, 08:51:10 PM
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UPDATE: So, Dan Murtha decided to reach out to me in order to fix the situation. He asked me how much store credit I thought was fair and I said $1200 since that's how much I lost in the refund. I also said that I'd be willing to accept two S3s as well. He offered me $1000 credit and I agreed.
I hereby rescind/renounce/repudiate/abjure all the negative things I've said about Minersource and I will be sure to edit all recent posts referencing them to reflect this update.
Thanks Minersource for doing the right thing in the end.

Cool, now will minersource start refunds for other customers who are still waiting?

My refund went from "after B1 & B2 shipping is complete" to basically "You're going to get your miner whether or not you want it" when I asked about it again the other day.

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Thank you for contacting us and for your patience while we worked out the shipping dates with our supplier. We have done our best in a challenging situation to deliver your units as quickly as possible, but understand that you have now decided to refuse to accept delivery. While we appreciate and acknowledge that the wait has been longer than you had hoped, this was a “pre-order” of mining equipment which, according to the terms of purchase posted on our site when you placed your order, is non-refundable if cancelled. Those terms (www.minersource.net/contactus) explicitly notified buyers that delivery dates were not guaranteed, and that buyers should not rely on them as a factor in making the decision to place an order with us. We encourage you to accept delivery of your pre-ordered product because we are not approving refund requests at this time. We recognize that this has caused inconvenience, and have worked with our supplier to add additional compensation units to your order, free of charge. These will be included in a further shipment sent to you. Again, we are sorry that this order took so long to fulfill, and encourage you to contact us with any additional questions.

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August 12, 2014, 08:55:58 PM
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I think they may have stopped shipping altogether. Anyone get any recently direct from BA?

BA, how about an update on shipping?
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August 12, 2014, 08:58:24 PM
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I think they may have stopped shipping altogether. Anyone get any recently direct from BA?

BA, how about an update on shipping?

They're too busy assembling the 50 miners that will ship this week to give us updates.

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August 12, 2014, 09:10:41 PM
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I can't even get MS to respond to my refund requests.

UPDATE: So, Dan Murtha decided to reach out to me in order to fix the situation. He asked me how much store credit I thought was fair and I said $1200 since that's how much I lost in the refund. I also said that I'd be willing to accept two S3s as well. He offered me $1000 credit and I agreed.
I hereby rescind/renounce/repudiate/abjure all the negative things I've said about Minersource and I will be sure to edit all recent posts referencing them to reflect this update.
Thanks Minersource for doing the right thing in the end.

Cool, now will minersource start refunds for other customers who are still waiting?

My refund went from "after B1 & B2 shipping is complete" to basically "You're going to get your miner whether or not you want it" when I asked about it again the other day.

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Thank you for contacting us and for your patience while we worked out the shipping dates with our supplier. We have done our best in a challenging situation to deliver your units as quickly as possible, but understand that you have now decided to refuse to accept delivery. While we appreciate and acknowledge that the wait has been longer than you had hoped, this was a “pre-order” of mining equipment which, according to the terms of purchase posted on our site when you placed your order, is non-refundable if cancelled. Those terms (www.minersource.net/contactus) explicitly notified buyers that delivery dates were not guaranteed, and that buyers should not rely on them as a factor in making the decision to place an order with us. We encourage you to accept delivery of your pre-ordered product because we are not approving refund requests at this time. We recognize that this has caused inconvenience, and have worked with our supplier to add additional compensation units to your order, free of charge. These will be included in a further shipment sent to you. Again, we are sorry that this order took so long to fulfill, and encourage you to contact us with any additional questions.

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August 12, 2014, 10:48:49 PM
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Had enough of Minersource. (I need to rant)
Dan Murtha has started to ignore all my messages at Minersource.

I was speaking with him to a couple of weeks ago because I was complaining that even though bogsag3 himself told me somewhere in the thread, my order was valued at $100 for the customs, when I got my order I had to £53+ in customs duties (equivalent in $90+) and his response was apparently some slipped through at the full retail price.

But Dan himself was genuinely polite and promised me that if I was looking for more hardware that he would come up with a favourable deal. (Completely ignoring the fact that technically he should of reimbursed me for the additional fees I paid as it should of come to about £12 in duties).

So I began talking to Dan to see what kind of deal he could do for me, afterall I am willing to spend more money at Minersource for a decent miner in stock. So I asked what does he have/recommend as I dont want to spend a massive amount considering the delay has screwed me and many hundreds more people.

He recommended the BTC Garden 610gh. I was happy with that and made the suggestion about making this a deal worth while for me, but he has basically ignored the fact of coming up with any kind of deal when giving me a price. I said because I am spending more money with Minersource, I think a fair deal would have been somewhere in the region of a $200 discount, as I would ideally like to pay no more than $400 and he could consider all future compensation from this BA fiasco complete and he can even keep the raspberryPI and just send the SD card with the software. But no, I am ignored and he clearly doesnt care.

I haven't criticised Minersource at all during this whole thing, but I am beginning to feel like he/minersource is on purposely shitting on me. He even tells me that he cant work out a deal based on the compensation because its seperate. (But Dan, I asked for a bloody exchange long before my order shipped and you said no, and I still didnt argue) Based on that comment alone, I doubt very much Minersource is going to be giving anyone who ordered 1 X1 any kind of compensation that would reflect anything of value. I said to him surely in my situation as I only bought one as voucher is the logical option.

Dan ignored the fact that even though I requested a refund (which was ignored) and even though I requested an exchange of item for the price I paid - I would of even paid a bit more for something else (that was also ignored). I pleaded my case that if we could deal at $400 for the BTC Garden, that would be fair because Minersource exchanged plenty of other peoples miners and even refunded others (when he refused mine), even pointing out others on this forum took completely destroying their name of minersource because they were unhappy.

I have done none of this (unless this counts), but I can only assume that because I have been nice, Dan and the others at minersource dont give a shit about me. They have shipped my order, lied to me, made me pay for it and now ignore every email I send and thats me trying to arrange something where I pay them more money.

I think I am broken. End rant.
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August 13, 2014, 02:55:47 AM
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IMHO thank MS is going down with the BA ship....they hide behind a form email saying its a pre order no set date for shipping, no refunds,1 to 3 weeks blah,blah,blah......I received this same email everytime I ask for a refund. In the "goods" he's selling busted up iphones & everything else but no X-1's or X-3's.wait for it .....1 to 3 weeks again.
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August 13, 2014, 04:16:30 AM
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just FYI. i got my X1 yesterday and its been hashing away steady. ive got to admit, its a nice package.  the i still havent figured out how to get the pretty hashing display on the LCD, so thats kind of a waste, but the system is doing well. here is a pic of the hashing so far.

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August 13, 2014, 07:09:21 AM
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Had enough of Minersource. (I need to rant)
Dan Murtha has started to ignore all my messages at Minersource.

I was speaking with him to a couple of weeks ago because I was complaining that even though bogsag3 himself told me somewhere in the thread, my order was valued at $100 for the customs, when I got my order I had to £53+ in customs duties (equivalent in $90+) and his response was apparently some slipped through at the full retail price.

But Dan himself was genuinely polite and promised me that if I was looking for more hardware that he would come up with a favourable deal. (Completely ignoring the fact that technically he should of reimbursed me for the additional fees I paid as it should of come to about £12 in duties).

So I began talking to Dan to see what kind of deal he could do for me, afterall I am willing to spend more money at Minersource for a decent miner in stock. So I asked what does he have/recommend as I dont want to spend a massive amount considering the delay has screwed me and many hundreds more people.

He recommended the BTC Garden 610gh. I was happy with that and made the suggestion about making this a deal worth while for me, but he has basically ignored the fact of coming up with any kind of deal when giving me a price. I said because I am spending more money with Minersource, I think a fair deal would have been somewhere in the region of a $200 discount, as I would ideally like to pay no more than $400 and he could consider all future compensation from this BA fiasco complete and he can even keep the raspberryPI and just send the SD card with the software. But no, I am ignored and he clearly doesnt care.

I haven't criticised Minersource at all during this whole thing, but I am beginning to feel like he/minersource is on purposely shitting on me. He even tells me that he cant work out a deal based on the compensation because its seperate. (But Dan, I asked for a bloody exchange long before my order shipped and you said no, and I still didnt argue) Based on that comment alone, I doubt very much Minersource is going to be giving anyone who ordered 1 X1 any kind of compensation that would reflect anything of value. I said to him surely in my situation as I only bought one as voucher is the logical option.

Dan ignored the fact that even though I requested a refund (which was ignored) and even though I requested an exchange of item for the price I paid - I would of even paid a bit more for something else (that was also ignored). I pleaded my case that if we could deal at $400 for the BTC Garden, that would be fair because Minersource exchanged plenty of other peoples miners and even refunded others (when he refused mine), even pointing out others on this forum took completely destroying their name of minersource because they were unhappy.

I have done none of this (unless this counts), but I can only assume that because I have been nice, Dan and the others at minersource dont give a shit about me. They have shipped my order, lied to me, made me pay for it and now ignore every email I send and thats me trying to arrange something where I pay them more money.

I think I am broken. End rant.

Same issues here. Minersource is clearly full of shit as well as BA. The two companies are very similar in my books. I've been attempting communication now for TWO MONTHS but the only email I've ever received back from them is the bullshit mass email of sorry, no refunds, we are shipping. What a load of shit.

I sadly don't think we'll see our money back and I don't want to see the piss poor excuse of a miner, the X1 anymore because it's way beyond useless. The only shining light in this whole drama is I bought S3's direct from Bitmain and had no issues at all; they know how to treat a customer
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August 13, 2014, 08:11:43 AM
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I think they may have stopped shipping altogether. Anyone get any recently direct from BA?

BA, how about an update on shipping?

They're too busy assembling the 50 miners that will ship this week to give us updates.

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August 13, 2014, 08:30:40 AM
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I requested a refund in April, which was approved after I provided all the requested information. I have been waiting patiently since then.

Today, I received a notification on my refund order ticket (the same one that contained confirmation that my refund had been approved) that my order "is already scheduled for dispatch and will be shipped in the next few days."

Now they're just liars, too.
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