Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $0.49/GH/s

[sirsmokesalot]

they dump their old miners cause they've got the new ones to mine with

and then this will become the X3 's and the X2 product (when they have suck all of the out of this shit)
backplane was a shitty reason they found to delay the delivery of their boards while they hashing



I hope the whole building will collapse on them with a giant hearthquake
(just after they send all the orders   )

Ain't that the truth! I personally have no issue buying a miner after it has been used for a while, as long as the company is transparent about things.

I am mostly curious about the black arrow boards the bitfury chips are on. When did they have the time to make those up? Was that during the time they should have been working on designing the machines they were taking preorders on?

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[eXOBeX]

Bobsag,

Can you tell me when order #1429 will ship? I spoke with you by phone on the 14th, and you said it should ship by Friday. I have seen no sign of any activity on my order.

thanks

BA haven't even moved on the #800-series orders yet, so don't hold your breath.

A little excitement today.

Go my 2nd X-1 in the mail.

Pulled it out of the box and set it up on my desk plugged the cable into the back of the unit and then into the powerstrip. There was a thunderous electrical crackle and spark and the room went dark.

Looks like the power supply died and popped the circuit breaker along with it.

This is the first piece of electrical equipment I have had die straight out of the box that I can remember. It sure does smell bad!

No surprise there. Probably the cheapest, shittiest power supplies from Lucky Golden Rabbit Electric Co., Ltd or whatever it was. Back in February they asked the PSU suppliers to reduce the physical size of the unit, trimming the safety margins on a unit that, like so much other turfed out from China, probably had no margins to start with.

Ordered in November, it's July. They're taking the piss to a whole new level.

[sirsmokesalot]

Bobsag,

Can you tell me when order #1429 will ship? I spoke with you by phone on the 14th, and you said it should ship by Friday. I have seen no sign of any activity on my order.

thanks

BA haven't even moved on the #800-series orders yet, so don't hold your breath.

lol, they haven't even hit orders in the 100's yet, or at least is the assumption i can make as i am sitting on an order about halfway into 100's, and another in the 300s.

[sirsmokesalot]

People on their forums are reporting that their miners are being shipped, even though their orders have been canceled after they have requested refunds.

That actually makes sense as to why the orders in the 100s aren't being touched yet. Ship out the orders of the people requesting refunds first, so you don't have to refund them. Then ship out orders for people who don't say anything, as they have most likely given up.

[n00dles0up]

People on their forums are reporting that their miners are being shipped, even though their orders have been canceled after they have requested refunds.

That actually makes sense as to why the orders in the 100s aren't being touched yet. Ship out the orders of the people requesting refunds first, so you don't have to refund them. Then ship out orders for people who don't say anything, as they have most likely given up.

That is what I think is happening. I ordered from Minersource and when I tried to get an exchange for an Antminer S3. My order seemed to magically ship. Could be a coincidence. Would still prefer the Antminer. I still want to know when compensation will be finalised.

[56k]

BA is playing fire control which should of started waaay back at the start of 2014 now the trash can fire is three miles and raging these guys can't make a competent business call if google knocked on there front door and offered assistance.

[sirsmokesalot]

I guess they are trying for the top spot in the worst hardware manufacturer category? Bfl, hashfast, BA? I would say tie for second at the moment. BFL, i dunno, didn't deal with them. Seems just as bad though.

[ceslick]

So glad I did not go the BA route and saved a bit more for Ant's...

[56k]

Sad thing is everyone who bought BA's load of crap would of been able to buy bigger and better at least 2 months ago.

[sirsmokesalot]

Sad thing is everyone who bought BA's load of crap would of been able to buy bigger and better at least 2 months ago.

I wound up ordering antminers back in feb after the first delay. At the point in time it was painfully apparent we were going to be in the long haul run around as they had zero hardware in hand then, they weren't even at the testing stages. Low and behold. Even the miners they are shipping now are incomplete pieces of shit. You think they would at the very least, give refunds for the lcds we paid for, yet were not included in the order. So many things are beyond fucked about this situation. Karma is real though, screw enough people over in life and one day, you are gonna screw a person that doesn't take kindly to screwing.

[sirsmokesalot]

Consider this scenario:

a. After months of cooling in oil the obsolete hash boards are removed and built into X3 miners for customers.

b. The miners are shipped to angry customers.

c. The customers plug in the units and start hashing in spite of the fact they'll never recover more than 10% of their investment.

d. The heat from the ASICs vaporizes the residue oil on the hash boards and quickly fills the room with an explosive vapor.

e. The capacitors that can't explode produce only sparks.





 

a) why waste their time and our money cooling in oil when they have nothing to lose, customer funded

b) they are only shipping to people who requested a refund

cde) nothing clever to say to those 

[mazedk]

I asked for a refund this morning stating that I will give the go ahead for my lawyer in Shenzhen who will work with my lawyer in The Virgin Islands and continue discussions with Scotland Yard if I don't have shipping info by the end of the month as it's the last promise I'm prepared to take. 
 
I will not sit quietly anymore after investing US$25K in this company and will happily spend more to regain that investment from them plus compensation if the lawyers do their job correctly.
 
I hope they actually don't send my X3s now because I will have a better chance of return through the legal system.  I'd love to see them produce the documents that made them decide they were ahead of schedule back in January let alone all the other documents they would need to produce to show why they have gone against almost everything they have told us.  i.e. documents to show the LCD orders from multiple companies and every document showing orders for each revision of board etc.  I don't believe they would be able to produce them so as my lawyer has stated... Should be a walk in the park.
 
This is the reply and if they are true to their word about their production capabilities (again, documents will be required) then it should only be a matter of days before they hit my order.  If I find that they've shipped to re sellers first then I'm not waiting for the end of month.
 
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Dear customer,

We have started shipping X3s on Saturday. We apologize for not posting evidence on our website, unfortunately we did not have time for this. We are shipping in the order of payments.

Thank you for your patience.

Regards,
Black Arrow Team

Just dont accept the delivery. Plain and simple.

[CryptoGuy]

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that the X3 is seriously under performing. This is the only reason I can think of that they would ship them first then tell us about it, again, with absolutely no detail on final specs.

[56k]

BA could NOT do in months what technobit did with BA chips in half the time but they have competent engineers lol . Who gets beat building something you have months of access to first ,BA needs to add a D to there name and call themselves BADS. You cant make this crap up its to easy to see just how inept this company is now .

[CryptoGuy]

BA could NOT do in months what technobit did with BA chips in half the time but they have competent engineers lol . Who gets beat building something you have months of access to first ,BA needs to add a D to there name and call themselves BADS. You cant make this crap up its to easy to see just how inept this company is now .

Yes, Technobit pretty much proved how inept BA really is. Either that or BA never had any backplane issues and have been mining on their Minion chips for a couple months now.

[56k]

I would like to say your correct just for the shear ineptness of BA but they seem to inept to even pull that off its almost like a child is running this company the TOS reads like a playground rules list giving them everything and every advantage then there performance is just horrific.

[Qeu]

Still @bobsag3 refuses to respond to my PM's or support email tickets.... If you've got nothing to say mate at least have the courtesy of telling me so

He's at a conference there won't be / will be few replies from him until after. Use the support email to get any support needed.

He wrote he already used the support email tickets. I did too, on the 10th and the13th, I only got a receipt confirmation, request number 3920, never heard anything back. Please let someone attend to this. I pm'd the same to you last week. Heard nothing back.

[bobsag3]

Arrived this morning, currently hashing @ 1.05T-1.15T at 1Ghz clock. Have not tried 1100 or 1200 yet.

[sorehammer]

looks very nice bobsag3

[Syke]

Arrived this morning, currently hashing @ 1.05T-1.15T at 1Ghz clock. Have not tried 1100 or 1200 yet.

Wattage? Did you get more than 1 sample X3?