Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $0.49/GH/s

[quantguy]

whatever happened to the 'rent a minion'?  Have they even started hashing for people yet?

Definitely NOT for me

[OgNasty]

"Sir, we have Black Arrow on line 1.  They say they have a new product for you."

[ducmami]

Oh, greate!
May 2015, you will get the the world's best PSU

[RoadStress]

Wow, just wow, these sorry excuses for human beings won't just die will they?  I will be the first to call Bull Shit on a 14nm node process ASIC chip used for SHA-256 hashing!  There is simply no way.  How could BA do that when successful Bitcoin ASIC companies can't yet, and for that matter, any other chip producer such as Intel!  They are just lying to get more money.

It is BS! +1

[FarmerGreene]

The Black Arrow store site now displays the following.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3621645/store%20closed.png

BlackArrow, is this temporary?  If not, what is the new URL for the support site?

Thanks!

[lightfoot]

Hm. That's kind of like... odd... isn't it?

Taking a break from reading BFL bashing, wondering how other chip vendors are doing.

[CryptoGuy]

That's where the 40% comes in I bet. The Prospero X1/3 project is 40% of the entire development costs of the Minion, the scrypt ASIC, and we now know their 14NM chip design.

[mazedk]

Hmmm.. http://www.blackarrowsoftware.com/store/14nm-bitcoin-asic-announcement.html


29/08/2014, Shenzhen, China

Black Arrow, a leading Bitcoin ASIC manufacturer, announces that it has been working towards building its next generation Bitcoin ASIC since the tapeout of its last ASIC (March 2014) and it has now set a tape-out date: December 2014.

This new Bitcoin ASIC will use the 14nm FinFet process and the power consumption target is 0.3J/Ghash at chip level.

Black Arrow has enlarged the team that made Minion ASIC a success and now has obtained support from one of the leading foundry that is able to tape out 14nm FinFet.

Work has already started on the backend of the chip in order to port the Minion RTL into 14nm process. Black Arrow has added several improvements to its ASIC code: the chip manager features now has more commands and SHA256 engine is in the process of improving the power consumption by fully utilizing the new features of the cutting edge 14nm process.

The schedule tape-out date is set to December 2014 with wafers scheduled to be completed in April 2015. Chips will be ready to be shipped in May 2015.

Black Arrow Ltd has already a proven track record in successfully manufacture Bitcoin mining hardware at extremely competitive prices using shorter full lifecycle than their competition without compromising the top quality required the highly-competitive niche market.

Black Arrow’s expertise in software engineering, hardware design, manufacture and customer support lead to develop unique solutions addressed to technology savvy clients. Their customized solutions are encompassing the most advanced lithography. The end result is a strong contender for achieving a reliable mining and high revenue backed by reduced costs and with high expectations on the customer satisfaction front.

In order to make this project a success story, Black Arrow is now actively looking for fair joint venture partners including other Bitcoin ASIC companies who were unable to gain access to this process node or who wish to share the cost of the mask.




Sad.. they are pooring money into another adventure before even completing and honoring the first one.. Wheres the compensation? Wheres the deliveries? Wheres the honor?

[RoadStress]

Hmmm.. http://www.blackarrowsoftware.com/store/14nm-bitcoin-asic-announcement.html
....
Sad.. they are pooring money into another adventure before even completing and honoring the first one.. Wheres the compensation? Wheres the deliveries? Wheres the honor?

Don't fool yourself. They aren't poring money into anything. The 14nm announcement is pure BS because they need money. Don't believe anything BA tells you.

[mazedk]

Hmmm.. http://www.blackarrowsoftware.com/store/14nm-bitcoin-asic-announcement.html
....
Sad.. they are pooring money into another adventure before even completing and honoring the first one.. Wheres the compensation? Wheres the deliveries? Wheres the honor?

Don't fool yourself. They aren't poring money into anything. The 14nm announcement is pure BS because they need money. Don't believe anything BA tells you.

Dont worry, Im not trusting them anymore.

[dogjunior]

Black Arrow in my mind is worse than BFL. They delay but their miners work. BA delays and when they deliver their miners are crap.

[Syke]

BFL is over 9 months late. BA is only 6 months late. You can't outdo BFL. They are masters of overpriced late hardware.

[RHA]

Pentax, add your comment AFTER the quote, rather than inside it. Thanks.

[cdog]

Black Arrow = Scumbags

[notindexed]

http://www.blackarrowsoftware.com/store/bitcoin-miners/

contact us for price klol

[Dallas5]

What is the path of least damage at this point?

A. Take the comp ASICs and sell them (where the hell would I sell them, who would buy them?)
B. Wait and pray for BA to do something like ship the X3 and give a good scrypt miner as comp (hoping they used the x-1 x-3 to learn to do this and now at least have some clue and won't be a year late on that)
C. Ask for a refund, never get miner, never get refund (I'm assuming this is what happens if you ask for one) Any case of anyone getting a refund? I have plenty of free hours with an attorney that I can use but I don't want to blow them if "them being in china" means I'll still never get my money back.


And to think, I can remember a time when I was worried about letting BA do the 5 day hosting because the extra shipping delay might cut into my ability for ROI.

I didn't need that $5k so much then, but with things that happened since, that profit (fuck,..breaking even) and having that money would be a life changer.

(sigh)

Hope you'll get atleast something this year..

I opted for option C, bought from MS. their product was/is delayed way to far past the original communicated shipment date minersource and blackarrow is obliged to send customers a refund. They even agreed to send me a refund months ago and I'm still waiting. How both companies still exist and no one is jailed is beyond me.  

Minersource do the right thing and send those refunds ASAP! You can't just keep playing with peoples money and get away with it.

Same here, waiting on a cheque Dan Murtha promised to sent on 22th of July, asked for an update after 3 weeks (now 2 weeks ago), and they will not even respond anymore besides the automated "your request has been received". Disgusting, this minersource company. Guess there's nothing left but filing at the FTC an their local attorney's office.

If you really want to start ruffling Minersoures feathers, anyone with a legitimate complaint against them should start also talking to Mircocenter General Managers. If hey want to protect that deal then the less complaints against them the better, just explain how they're (Mirocenter) is in bed with a business that handles their customers poorly and explain your situation.

Hmm,..
My friend works at MC's distribution center, everything that they order/test/fulfill etc.. goes through his doors in Ohio, I may just have to see what his opinion is on all this.

I'm one of those idiots that held out to the end,.. thought , hey I'll just buy my additional CPU from minersource as they'll probably have a few extras and can ship immediately,.. That was over a month ago so.. now they have skin in the game on my buy too.

Let us know, maybe in a new thread linked to from this one so it won't be deleted. People just want their money back from Minersource after not delivering on time as promised.

[MoreBloodWine]

Lol at the last one, thats actually going a little too far with the whole nazi germany poke.

[Scrappy Do]

Bitcoin Difficulty:   27,428,630,902
Estimated Next Difficulty:   31,837,232,396 (+16.07%)
Adjust time:   After 1989 Blocks, About 13.0 days
Hashrate(?):   212,813,326 GH/s

The X3 now makes $12 a day and the X1 makes 63¢ a day. Only a month left before they make $0 a day.

Also how is compensation suppose to work, WTF am I suppose to do with a worthless miner that has no PSU?

I've got an idea, since we're all Nazis and we've been bad you should just ship all the miners without PSUs! It's not like we need PSUs by the time they arrive anyway. Also if by chance the X3 still makes a dollar or two a day when it arrives this will ensure that the customer won't be able to mine any of it.

 Your numbers are seriously scewed man. I dont mind you bitching, but at least tell the truth.

[MoreBloodWine]

These are the approximate earnings of a single X3 module under current diff / BTC per price of $477 @ 1,000Gh/s.

per Day   0.01833509 BTC   $8.76
per Week   0.12834566 BTC   $61.29
per Month   0.55807441 BTC   $266.49

[nosferatujeff]

Received an email last night from BA requesting a BTC address for rent-a-minion. I had requested a refund for the rent-a-minion portion a while ago.

Paid 7 BTC and will be lucky to get two out of it. That BTC is still in the wallet I sent it to.

The email said they are planning to deploy rent a minion in a few days.

Current difficulty returns 6 and change over 6 months if difficulty remains unchanged. My 2 BTC estimate is my estimate, to be fair.

I still have not received a DHL tracking number from their email last week that my shipment should go out later today. I have checked my spam folder many times.