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January 05, 2014, 12:32:51 AM
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Why are you here then? If you didn't invest due to your superior mental ability why are you posting in this thread or even in the securities section?

chalk this one up to a learning experience.

really? you wanna shoot the shit awhile?

Well your post contradicts itself then.

You stated:
As a matter of fact, I'm amazed that anyone "invests" anything with people in this forum based on an "IPO post." an IPO? on this forum? It looks like a gaming forum with nasty trolls and all! It's like: let's play stockbroker with play money called bitcoins, yay! That is insanity.
Which implies that you would never invest in a company based on an IPO post in this forum. Then you stated:
chalk this one up to a learning experience.
Which I guess means you are actually invested in this company? I am going to make that assumption. Based on that being the case you just answered your own question:
I'm amazed that anyone "invests" anything with people in this forum based on an "IPO post." an IPO? on this forum?




 

Big fucken deal so I contradicted myself, like I'm the only one in here doing that. give it a rest.

You're working too hard to antagonize.
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January 05, 2014, 12:45:37 AM
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Back for my monthly check-up, thanks for the updates Ken, nice to see some photos and the revenue reports. Looking forward to a successful 2014!
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January 05, 2014, 12:47:25 AM
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Back for my monthly check-up, thanks for the updates Ken, nice to see some photos and the revenue reports. Looking forward to a successful 2014!

what photos? the desks? lol
only 1 was a fake, and the one above is an expired license.

quote defcoin ==== LOL... oh no, the coin is dead cause $DEV doesn't live on BCT! When will you people learn that everything on here is completely irrelevant next to useless. Devs need to stop using it all together, only then can crypto begin to flourish. It's such a shame that people consider this shit hole to be the pinnacle of information when it comes to developments. I don't blame $DEV for not coming on here, and frankly I am embarrassed that I even check BCT myself.
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January 05, 2014, 12:48:42 AM
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Back for my monthly check-up, thanks for the updates Ken, nice to see some photos and the revenue reports. Looking forward to a successful 2014!

what photos? the desks? lol
only 1 was a fake, and the one above is an expired license.

Cool, thanks.
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January 05, 2014, 12:51:53 AM
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Calling eASIC is more likely to derail things than give you answers. Calling eASIC is irresponsible.

Grow the fuck up kids - 8 pages/day of trolly drivel.

You still think this is all real, I suppose?
eASIC is really working on chips. But they probably won't tell you anything about it which is their own right.


I can't stop loving people investing in non regulated markets expecting crazy profits and later crying for not getting all the warranties of regulated markets.
Scams like this and other kind of investment scams happen all the time in the regulated market*. Actually, most legit startup companies fail. Investors here are however extremely not demanding and tend to become fanboys, because they think it will make things better or other reasons, which is exactly not the thing to do. It just encourages the issuer to do as he pleases.
These last few months I spent my time asking myself "why am I not starting an IPO?".

* Actually, some fiat scams are ridiculously similar. See penny stocks. See overvalued IPOs.

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I've said it multiple times, no one on here should be defending Ken form very serious questions. If I ask him where the shares are I shouldn't have investors making up excuses I should have Ken on here telling us the answer.
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January 05, 2014, 01:00:41 AM
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I am assuming that Ken is working with Stilwell Baker to make the boards? That company seems legit.
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January 05, 2014, 01:23:11 AM
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I am assuming that Ken is working with Stilwell Baker to make the boards? That company seems legit.

What makes you think they are involved?  
Because Ken knows the Sales Director there. Ken was endorsed by him for his knowledge of Web Applications. Its just a guess.

Electronics Engineering and Manufacturing

http://www.stilwellbaker.com/
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Since 1993, Stilwell Baker has helped companies develop highly reliable electronic devices, systems, and controls. For our customers, we are a primary source for product development, manufacturing, and supply chain management.
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January 05, 2014, 01:48:22 AM
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Where is this endorsement?
It is on Ken's LinkedIn - scroll to the bottom.

Richard Lundin - Sales Director at StilWell Baker Inc.


Ken's LinkedIn leaves much to be desired but this guy looks legit.
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January 05, 2014, 02:15:24 AM
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If eASIC is legit and the deal was legit, we already received sample chips. Why can't we see a picture of them?


We wouldn't want Cointerra or KNC to copy our design.  We need to keep the secret of our success hidden.

KNC full custom 28nm ASIC: 100+ GH/s per chip, proven design and proven suppliers. Now working on their 20nm chip which will likely be 750+ GH/s per chip

Cointerra full custom 28nm ASIC: 500+ GH/s per chip, taped out, tested, assembled and miners being shipped.

Compare to:

ActM FPGA ported semi-custom halfbreed 28nm ASIC: 20GH/s per over clocked chip. No proven hashing samples, no timeline, one 'back-to-the-drawing-board' already.


Why in the hell would Cointerra or KNC want to copy our cheap-ass, out-of-date, unproven design?
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January 05, 2014, 02:17:30 AM
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If eASIC is legit and the deal was legit, we already received sample chips. Why can't we see a picture of them?


We wouldn't want Cointerra or KNC to copy our design.  We need to keep the secret of our success hidden.

KNC full custom 28nm ASIC: 100+ GH/s per chip, proven design and proven suppliers. Now working on their 20nm chip which will likely be 750+ GH/s per chip

Cointerra full custom 28nm ASIC: 500+ GH/s per chip, taped out, tested, assembled and miners being shipped.

Compare to:

ActM FPGA ported semi-custom 28nm ASIC: 20GH/s per over clocked chip. No proven hashing samples, no timeline, one 'back-to-the-drawing board already.


Why in the hell would Cointerra or KNC want to copy our cheap-ass, out-of-date, unproven design?
It doesn't mean we went back to the drawing board. There are other possibilities.
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January 05, 2014, 02:28:54 AM
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If eASIC is legit and the deal was legit, we already received sample chips. Why can't we see a picture of them?


We wouldn't want Cointerra or KNC to copy our design.  We need to keep the secret of our success hidden.

KNC full custom 28nm ASIC: 100+ GH/s per chip, proven design and proven suppliers. Now working on their 20nm chip which will likely be 750+ GH/s per chip

Cointerra full custom 28nm ASIC: 500+ GH/s per chip, taped out, tested, assembled and miners being shipped.

Compare to:

ActM FPGA ported semi-custom 28nm ASIC: 20GH/s per over clocked chip. No proven hashing samples, no timeline, one 'back-to-the-drawing board already.


Why in the hell would Cointerra or KNC want to copy our cheap-ass, out-of-date, unproven design?
It doesn't mean we went back to the drawing board. There are other possibilities.

My point is the same as your original point. i.e.


If eASIC is legit and the deal was legit, we already received sample chips. Why can't we see a picture of them?

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January 05, 2014, 02:33:39 AM
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^I got ya... I'm just saying that Ken did not necessarily go back to the drawing board. Ken may have just altered the plans a bit. What if the prototype chips worked fine?
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January 05, 2014, 02:45:04 AM
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^I got ya... I'm just saying that Ken did not necessarily go back to the drawing board. Ken may have just altered the plans a bit. What if the prototype chips worked fine?

Chips do work, don't think that is the problem, I think we are shipping too, even if not shipping a substantial amount. I think the big issue is share access.
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January 05, 2014, 03:17:07 AM
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If there are any reports of at least one VMC machine out there in the wild hashing then I'll shut the hell up and wait it out…


anyone?
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January 05, 2014, 03:18:45 AM
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zumzero paid me to say i had a machine
i just realized the contract of silence ended yesterday

not sure why
but i have no machine.
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January 05, 2014, 03:20:02 AM
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geez really? coulda fooled us.
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January 05, 2014, 03:29:42 AM
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Owners of machines may not come to these forums. For example, the first customers could be Ken, his family, and/or engineers working on the boards/chips.


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January 05, 2014, 03:32:36 AM
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 I think the big issue is share access.

+100
share access (and payment of past divs due) are very important. the foot-dragging on these 2 issues are beginning to make ActM look more and more like labcoin every day that they are not resolved. Get On It Man! Holidays are OVER ffs!
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January 05, 2014, 03:33:44 AM
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Owners of machines may not come to these boards. For example, the first customers could be Ken, his family, and/or engineers working on the boards/chips.

Legally fine but morally grey.

If this is the case then Ken should be upfront about it and say so. i.e. ''these were the first guys to give me orders and cash because it was way before incorporation, IPO etc. By the way, here are a few pictures.''

Saying we have shipped miners with so little evidence to prove it certainly damages confidence.
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January 05, 2014, 03:41:36 AM
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(This is all stuff I gathered from the IRC discussion with Kleeck and Shaofis)
As far as the delay due to the software modification is concerned, there may never have been an initial mask to begin with as the prototype chips were produced using the eBeam process (no mask). Changes were made for the Intellihash and Ken moved to the full-scale production, masked nextreme process.
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