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January 05, 2014, 04:07:41 AM
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zumzero paid me to say i had a machine
i just realized the contract of silence ended yesterday

not sure why
but i have no machine.

Would have not been in the (verbal?) contract to keep quiet about who paid you? Seems bad for your business to announce any of this.
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January 05, 2014, 04:13:03 AM
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What you did here has nothing to do with calculated risk or startups failing.  You had nothing to base your calculations on - other than the second-rate pitch of an aging serial scammer.
This shit needed as much calculating as slashing your wrists and falling into a shark tank.  

Not sure if you know much about startups, not starting a brick laying business, that's not a startup, but rather http://www.paulgraham.com/growth.html

And most of these startups don't even have a method of generating revenue for most of their lives, some are even planned on making an exit as the only possible investment return. Many angels and VC's admit that it's a gut feeling and luck mostly, it's hard to calculate the unknown.

And there were calculations for ActM laying around. I still believe that if we were on schedule we would have had some success. I invested in the knowledge we would have a full capacity by the end of December and there were no hints back when I invested that something went wrong with the eASIC chips.
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January 05, 2014, 04:16:55 AM
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Owners of machines may not come to these forums. For example, the first customers could be Ken, his family, and/or engineers working on the boards/chips.

Lets stop being naive, there are no machines shipped. Ken shipped something but it did not hash, perhaps a computer module like power supply?

And of course I was right about CanadianGuy, it wasn't shares but was some type of financial incentive.
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January 05, 2014, 04:29:28 AM
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zumzero paid me to say i had a machine
i just realized the contract of silence ended yesterday

not sure why
but i have no machine.

Aww poor zumzero must have been getting desperate. I was desperate and made a knowledge thread to at least help without being a loud cheerleader/liar.

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January 05, 2014, 04:37:11 AM
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Ken's statement about the software on the chip may be legitimate. I have come up with a theory on how Intellihash may work.

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"We have had to modify the software in our chips to make it work with our new software." - Ken Slaughter

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Intellihash(tm)

Intellihash is our new trademark for our new Bitcoin mining software which gives up to a 20% increase in hashing speed and has the possibility to increase the speed of our mining machines as the difficulty goes up.  We have had to modify the software in our chips to make it work with our new software.  The chips are going to be late; however, our new Intellihash software could be a game changer for the company.

Some background on eASIC's ASICs vs Other ASICs and FPGAs:

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Q. What is different about eASIC’s technology compared to other Structured ASICs and FPGAs?

A.  Competing Structured ASICs require numerous custom masks since both routing and logic are mask-customized. The expense of custom masks is high and grows exponentially with each new process node. By efficiently using a maskless lithography customization, eASIC’s Nextreme devices provide unprecedented benefits of quick and low cost product development together with a seamless path to volume production. Nextreme prototypes are identical to the high volume production devices, as they both share the same base wafers and the same data files are used for the Via customization. The only difference is in the manufacturing process - prototypes and low volume quantities are customized with Direct-Write eBeam equipment and high volume production devices are customized with a single Via-mask.

In an FPGA, both the routing and the logic are configurable. Configurable routing requires significant silicon overhead and in eASIC’s Structured ASIC the configurable routing is replaced with Via-mask routing. Therefore, Nextreme achieves over 200:1 area reduction in routing compared to FPGAs. This silicon efficiency translates into dramatically lower costs, higher performance and lower power consumption.

Q. How to customize eASIC’s Structured ASIC devices?

A.  Two elements are required to implement a design on a Nextreme device: Via configuration for interconnect and logic customization or optionally, a bit-stream for programming the logic cells. Both the Via configuration and bit-stream files are generated with eASIC's proprietary EDA tools suite called eTools. The Via configuration file is provided by the customer to eASIC or to one of the sales representatives and is used to manufacture the custom devices.

OK, there are two versions of eASIC's Nextreme chip, the SL and VL. From eASIC:
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Q. What is the difference between Nextreme VL and Nextreme SL?

A.  Nextreme VL and Nextreme SL are identical 90nm Structured ASIC devices of the Nextreme family. The only difference is in the logic customization method. The Nextreme SL product, which uses Flash devices to load the bitsteam, is optimized for fast turnaround and flexibility allowing re-programmability of the logic cells, while Nextreme VL devices do not require any external configuration loading and therefore are instant on, eliminating inrush current and soft errors.

So, it is possible that what Ken was saying was that after playing around with the first eBeamed prototype (no mask), he and his team came up with Intellihash. This required the "software" or LUT to be altered for use with Intellihash, which then go to full production in the nextreme VL - Via Programmed Logic (Fixed LUT). (This is more or less what Kleeck and Shaofis discussed)

Or...

Rather than use the nextreme VL for final products, VMC could implement the nextreme SL. This would allow for alterations to the SRAM Reprogrammable Logic (LUT) after the miners had been delivered. Thus, Intellihash could improve the performance of the miners as the difficulty increased since alterations to the logic could be made on the fly - an on-chip firmware upgrade. The routing cannot be altered but the logic can.

Please refer to this PDF for further information: http://www.avnet-asic.com/sfiles/editor/Nextreme.pdf
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January 05, 2014, 04:40:21 AM
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zumzero paid me to say i had a machine
i just realized the contract of silence ended yesterday

not sure why
but i have no machine.

Aww poor zumzero must have been getting desperate. I was desperate and made a knowledge thread to at least help without being a loud cheerleader/liar.



You did your part.  Without your generous financial help, this sideshow would be pointless, if not outright impossible.  
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January 05, 2014, 04:43:46 AM
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You did your part.  Without your generous financial help, this sideshow would be pointless, if not outright impossible.  

Not really, my money went to a smart investor not Ken.
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January 05, 2014, 04:51:45 AM
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Also found this:
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Q. What are the advantages of Nextreme Structured ASICs compared to competing offerings?
A. Compared to competing Structured ASICs, only the Nextreme product family offers $0 NRE. Nextreme devices are supported by industry standard design tools developed by Synopsys as well as by a more tailored design suite provided by Magma. Competing Structured ASICs require learning new EDA flows and investment in new tools.

Source: http://remotesensing.bosatlas.nl/html/thematical/page2.html
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January 05, 2014, 04:52:39 AM
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Lol, you really don't understand how ANY of this works, do you?  You gave your money to Ken, not to a smarter investor Grin Grin Grin
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January 05, 2014, 04:59:10 AM
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Also found this:
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Q. What are the advantages of Nextreme Structured ASICs compared to competing offerings?
A. Compared to competing Structured ASICs, only the Nextreme product family offers $0 NRE. Nextreme devices are supported by industry standard design tools developed by Synopsys as well as by a more tailored design suite provided by Magma. Competing Structured ASICs require learning new EDA flows and investment in new tools.

Source: http://remotesensing.bosatlas.nl/html/thematical/page2.html

Yeah all this stuff was great to read back in june/july when I thought the ACTM/eASIC offspring would be leading edge… now it's pretty irrelevant.
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January 05, 2014, 04:59:16 AM
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Lol, you really don't understand how ANY of this works, do you?  You gave your money to Ken, not to a smarter investor Grin Grin Grin

Think he means he didn't buy shares at IPO so he technically didn't give Ken any BTC but instead his BTC went to the investor that sold him his shares.
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January 05, 2014, 05:05:55 AM
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So, what will you guys do when the Wednesday update comes and again there is no mention about our shares?
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January 05, 2014, 05:07:40 AM
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Lol, you really don't understand how ANY of this works, do you?  You gave your money to Ken, not to a smarter investor Grin Grin Grin

Think he means he didn't buy shares at IPO so he technically didn't give Ken any BTC but instead his BTC went to the investor that sold him his shares.

Lol, I totally spaced!  He bought @double the second IPO price.  Scary stuff.
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January 05, 2014, 05:11:13 AM
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Ken's statement about the software on the chip may be legitimate. .
Q. What is the difference between Nextreme VL and Nextreme SL?

A.  Nextreme VL and Nextreme SL are identical 90nm Structured ASIC devices of the Nextreme family....

Vigil, how is it you remember to breathe?  Look at the bold font.  Now think about what year this is.
Spoiler:  If Ken was indeed spending your money on chips, the chips you were promised were 28, not 90nm Sad

The 28 nm offerings also use the nextreme SL and VL designs - same shit different size die.
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January 05, 2014, 05:25:56 AM
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Ken's statement about the software on the chip may be legitimate. .
Q. What is the difference between Nextreme VL and Nextreme SL?

A.  Nextreme VL and Nextreme SL are identical 90nm Structured ASIC devices of the Nextreme family....

Vigil, how is it you remember to breathe?  Look at the bold font.  Now think about what year this is.
Spoiler:  If Ken was indeed spending your money on chips, the chips you were promised were 28, not 90nm Sad

The 28 nm offerings also use the nextreme SL and VL designs - same shit different size die.

Before I put any more keystrokes into this, please quote me the relevant material, while you're quoting.  Or are you just making shit up?
P.S:  You're also confusing node size with die size.  Download more ram, pl0x.
You are right. The SL and VL models were for the original nextreme 90 nm product. I am not sure that nextreme-3 offers similar setup. There is not as much info on nextreme-3.
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January 05, 2014, 05:44:48 AM
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Lol, you really don't understand how ANY of this works, do you?  You gave your money to Ken, not to a smarter investor Grin Grin Grin

Think he means he didn't buy shares at IPO so he technically didn't give Ken any BTC but instead his BTC went to the investor that sold him his shares.

Lol, I totally spaced!  He bought @double the second IPO price.  Scary stuff.

Apart from 0.0025 * 2 != 0.004

I did buy much higher and my shares were acquired from someone dumping as JoTheKhan correctly deduced from my post. Not sure how you misunderstood my post and cannot do math, you're perhaps a little slow? I can't really say much as I have essentially gambled everything away.
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January 05, 2014, 05:47:19 AM
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Guys, you understand that this is not how money is made, right?  As I understand it, Bar's going to visit Ken and be your industrial spy/liaison/intrepid reporter?  I can confirm that he shilled for Terrahash, hard.  And everyone who listen to him lost all of their money.  But you are... you're going to listen to him 'coz it's different this time.



Bar has offered many times to go along with someone else, I don't think any large shareholders live within 1000KM though.

If Ken was 1000KM away from me I would have been up to see him and the operation months ago, I think most of the large shareholders have given up.
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January 05, 2014, 05:53:48 AM
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Bar has offered many times to go along with someone else, I don't think any large shareholders live within 1000KM though.

If Ken was 1000KM away from me I would have been up to see him and the operation months ago, I think most of the large shareholders have given up.

'Gone quiet' is not the same as 'given up'

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January 05, 2014, 05:56:31 AM
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why you keep conversing with obvious crumbs reincarnations, as if they are matter, is beyond me but can you please stop quoting the dumbfuck(s) as well!!!

thanks.
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January 05, 2014, 05:58:21 AM
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BG claimed to have huge orders with TH. He went out there, supposedly, told everyone it was legit on the forums. Then as the ship was sinking he kept reassuring everyone things were cool and not to panic - delaying the inevitable as he pretended to have large sums of money in TH product. What was so strange about the whole situation with TH is that it played in perfectly with Avalon scamathon.
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