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February 14, 2014, 01:16:42 AM |
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... I have to say that is a nice looking PC board. You could sure solder some chips onto that, boy howdy.
There are actually two chips mounted on this board, here: http://s16.postimg.org/5kttaeyjp/Capture.jpgYou don't need to populate the whole board to test the chip design, so we're good there. The problem is that while there are chips on that board, Ken stated that "his" chips have not yet been made -- he claimed that they're just taped out. So... Whose board, whose chips?
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DeadwoodDan
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February 14, 2014, 01:23:02 AM |
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There are actually two chips mounted on this board, here: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fs16.postimg.org%2F5kttaeyjp%2FCapture.jpg&t=665&c=jaHvdfoIkF-U3g) You don't need to populate the whole board to test the chip design, so we're good there. The problem is that while there are chips on that board, Ken stated that "his" chips have not yet been made -- he claimed that they're just taped out. So... Whose board, whose chips? Good catch! Must be that People's ASIC IP taking on a physical form. At this stage in the endgame, ordinary rules of physics no longer apply. No wonder Ken decided test runs are for sissy girls.
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Vigil
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February 14, 2014, 02:43:20 AM |
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Ken, whose board is in those pictures? What chips are on that board?
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February 14, 2014, 02:47:03 AM Last edit: February 14, 2014, 08:36:58 PM by kslaughter |
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Ken, whose board is in those pictures? What chips are on that board?
This is a board that our engineer designed and those are BFL Bitfury chips. He will be designing a reference board for our DIY for our 55nm and 28nm chips like this one.
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DeadwoodDan
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February 14, 2014, 02:54:15 AM |
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$3/GH/s just for chips, with delivery in two months? That's a little steep considering the chips are untested, and you can get chips that will give the same $/GH/s and J/GH numbers with immediate shipment and have a whole host of tested designs available. Quoting this because nobody commented. I googled Avalon asic chips and they're selling in giant fucking reels for what right now amounts to $2.50 per gigahash per second and are apparently available right now at http://avalon-asics.com/product/a3255-55nm-chip-500-count-reel/Unless of course that website is run by one of our fellow libertarians, in which case, caveat fucking emptor, after six months, you might possibly receive a nest of wasps and you'd be one of the lucky ones.
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February 14, 2014, 02:56:55 AM |
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Ken, whose board is in those pictures? What chips are on that board?
This is a board that our engineer designed and those are BFL chips. He will be designing a reference board for our DIY for our 55nm and 28nm chips like this one. How about postin' a pic that doesn't look like pixel art? Also, your chips are pin-compatible to BFL? Honest Injun?
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DeadwoodDan
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February 14, 2014, 02:58:39 AM |
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Ken, whose board is in those pictures? What chips are on that board?
This is a board that our engineer designed and those are BFL chips. He will be designing a reference board for our DIY for our 55nm and 28nm chips like this one. How about postin' a pic that doesn't look like pixel art? Also, your chips are pin-compatible to BFL? Honest Injun? pretty sure BFL never registered copyright on their design People's ASIC are just trying to set information free, man
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Vigil
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February 14, 2014, 02:59:09 AM |
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Ken, whose board is in those pictures? What chips are on that board?
This is a board that our engineer designed and those are BFL chips. He will be designing a reference board for our DIY for our 55nm and 28nm chips like this one. How about postin' a pic that doesn't look like pixel art? Also, your chips are pin-compatible to BFL? Honest Injun? I think he is saying that that isn't the board for the 55nm, but a board one of the engineers made for the BFL chip.
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kslaughter (OP)
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February 14, 2014, 03:02:40 AM |
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Ken, whose board is in those pictures? What chips are on that board?
This is a board that our engineer designed and those are BFL chips. He will be designing a reference board for our DIY for our 55nm and 28nm chips like this one. How about postin' a pic that doesn't look like pixel art? Also, your chips are pin-compatible to BFL? Honest Injun? I think he is saying that that isn't the board for the 55nm, but a board one of the engineers made for the BFL chip. No, it would have to be a redesign, but not much of one.
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DeadwoodDan
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February 14, 2014, 03:04:03 AM |
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Ken, whose board is in those pictures? What chips are on that board?
This is a board that our engineer designed and those are BFL chips. He will be designing a reference board for our DIY for our 55nm and 28nm chips like this one. How about postin' a pic that doesn't look like pixel art? Also, your chips are pin-compatible to BFL? Honest Injun? I think he is saying that that isn't the board for the 55nm, but a board one of the engineers made for the BFL chip. Hey Vigil, remember when you saw some hash power come online in roughly 25GH/s chunks and you were SO FUCKING CONVINCED that just had to be VMC machines coming online? Stop imagining up the best possible explanation for every event that occurs and start living in the real world.
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February 14, 2014, 03:08:09 AM |
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Ken, whose board is in those pictures? What chips are on that board?
This is a board that our engineer designed and those are BFL chips. He will be designing a reference board for our DIY for our 55nm and 28nm chips like this one. I can say with 100% certainty that those are not BFL chips, either with the old or the new package design. The BFL chips are a 144 pin BGA. Seriously, that's just pathetic.
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DeadwoodDan
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February 14, 2014, 03:08:33 AM |
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Ken, whose board is in those pictures? What chips are on that board?
This is a board that our engineer designed and those are BFL chips. He will be designing a reference board for our DIY for our 55nm and 28nm chips like this one. How about postin' a pic that doesn't look like pixel art? Also, your chips are pin-compatible to BFL? Honest Injun? I think he is saying that that isn't the board for the 55nm, but a board one of the engineers made for the BFL chip. No, it would have to be a redesign, but not much of one. holy crap so this really IS a stolen BFL design HOLY CRAP
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February 14, 2014, 03:09:51 AM |
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Ken, whose board is in those pictures? What chips are on that board?
This is a board that our engineer designed and those are BFL chips. He will be designing a reference board for our DIY for our 55nm and 28nm chips like this one. How about postin' a pic that doesn't look like pixel art? Also, your chips are pin-compatible to BFL? Honest Injun? I think he is saying that that isn't the board for the 55nm, but a board one of the engineers made for the BFL chip. No, it would have to be a redesign, but not much of one. So, let me get this straight: Your engineers designed a PC board for their chips ... that's not pin compatible with their chips? I'm not against recreational drug use, but how much paint are your boys huffing?
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February 14, 2014, 03:11:40 AM |
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Ken, whose board is in those pictures? What chips are on that board?
This is a board that our engineer designed and those are BFL chips. He will be designing a reference board for our DIY for our 55nm and 28nm chips like this one. I can say with 100% certainty that those are not BFL chips, either with the old or the new package design. The BFL chips are a 144 pin BGA. Seriously, that's just pathetic. Yup.
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February 14, 2014, 03:12:16 AM |
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Ken, whose board is in those pictures? What chips are on that board?
This is a board that our engineer designed and those are BFL chips. He will be designing a reference board for our DIY for our 55nm and 28nm chips like this one. How about postin' a pic that doesn't look like pixel art? Also, your chips are pin-compatible to BFL? Honest Injun? I think he is saying that that isn't the board for the 55nm, but a board one of the engineers made for the BFL chip. No, it would have to be a redesign, but not much of one. holy crap so this really IS a stolen BFL design HOLY CRAP Jesus christ Ken, come good with your Lord and Maker, you cannot possibly hope to come ahead in this fight
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February 14, 2014, 03:18:09 AM |
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Actually, I'd say I'm 90% sure even from the crappy pictures those are Bitfury chips.
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Vigil
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February 14, 2014, 03:18:21 AM |
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Ken, whose board is in those pictures? What chips are on that board?
This is a board that our engineer designed and those are BFL chips. He will be designing a reference board for our DIY for our 55nm and 28nm chips like this one. How about postin' a pic that doesn't look like pixel art? Also, your chips are pin-compatible to BFL? Honest Injun? I think he is saying that that isn't the board for the 55nm, but a board one of the engineers made for the BFL chip. Hey Vigil, remember when you saw some hash power come online in roughly 25GH/s chunks and you were SO FUCKING CONVINCED that just had to be VMC machines coming online? Stop imagining up the best possible explanation for every event that occurs and start living in the real world. I'm not sure what you are trying to say. I was simply clarifying Ken's statement in regards to the board in the picture.
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February 14, 2014, 03:25:14 AM |
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@Vigil: Please see MrTeal's posts above. He is right on in both of his assertions. That's most likely a Bitfury board. (see the caps on 3 of the four sides of each chip? That's because there's nothing but power there.)
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February 14, 2014, 03:25:41 AM |
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Hey Vigil, remember when you saw some hash power come online in roughly 25GH/s chunks and you were SO FUCKING CONVINCED that just had to be VMC machines coming online? Stop imagining up the best possible explanation for every event that occurs and start living in the real world.
I'm not sure what you are trying to say. I was simply clarifying Ken's statement in regards to the board in the picture. What's the mystery? You were slobbering all over that hashpower, holy shit you were so into it, it took three burly guys with hospital armbands to convince you it was not VMC, and we're still not sure you believed it.
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February 14, 2014, 03:57:23 AM |
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Hey Vigil, remember when you saw some hash power come online in roughly 25GH/s chunks and you were SO FUCKING CONVINCED that just had to be VMC machines coming online? Stop imagining up the best possible explanation for every event that occurs and start living in the real world.
I'm not sure what you are trying to say. I was simply clarifying Ken's statement in regards to the board in the picture. What's the mystery? You were slobbering all over that hashpower, holy shit you were so into it, it took three burly guys with hospital armbands to convince you it was not VMC, and we're still not sure you believed it. That was like a month ago... and I was figuring they were machines used to mine in secret. But what does that have to do with me clarifying what Ken claimed to be saying in the last post? I wasn't saying that what he said was true. But it brings up the question that has been repeated on here... what did we get with the $1 million? Can't I at least get a few non-functional chips as a consolation prize?
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