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July 13, 2014, 04:38:37 PM
Last edit: July 13, 2014, 04:48:56 PM by psybits
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It's too bad Tokyo locked his investment thread. That was a cool read. I think it helped maintain value as well since it kept HBN in the lime light a bit.

The current price is pretty sweet for buying. I shut all my miners off due to summer and am just waiting for my Gawminer Falcon to get here to fire up and build some btc to buy more hbn.

I do apologize for locking the journal. But I was being threatened by some trolls that they were going to spam the thread. I didn't want them to bring any negativity to my journal or to HBN so I decided to lock it. Also, the Hypercoin guys were using my thread to pump HYPER so that was also another reason why I shut it down, for now.

I might unlock it and do some monthly updates, but I will not leave it open for questions or discussion, as trolls might use that opportunity to spam the thread.

It is unfortunate it has come to that, but that is where I find myself now. I am still invested in HBN and it has allowed me to expand my investments into other coins, while still supporting HBN. It has been a very useful financial tool for me to generate ROI and it will continue to be one of my main altcoin holdings.


Tokyoghetto you tried to destroy a coin that trusted you and your "helping" hand.

All I've seen from the HYPER team is hard work and all I've seen from you is negative bullshit.

No one threatened you, you obviously just can't take what you dish out liberally.

gtfo

I didn't try to destroy anything. Hyper did that to themselves.

If all you see if negativity from me, then you need to get your eyes checked. As I recall Leptoon was apart of your team, until he dumped the fund he was entrusted with. I never said Hyper threatned me, I said you guys were using my thread to promote your coin.

as far as the threats, here is one that was made against me.

Homonipples? Where?

Haha high five.

Fear not SuperCoin fans. I am here to protect you from these Homonipples scumbags who were scumbagging in your thread. This is short term. Because of Homonipples scumbag salesmen getting extremely scammy and pumpy/dumpy these days, the fight will be taken to Homonipples thread run by the ghetto salesmen eventually.

This is short term protection.

take your own advice, and gtfo.

last time I am addressing you in anyways, shape or form. You are a waste of time.

lol still off topic I see in a discussion you've started? Whatever you've quoted above has to do with Supercoin and has nothing to do with anything we've been discussing. You've got no idea what you're talking about as usual. In the thread you said things to HYPERfuture that normally come from neck beard basement dwellers. Just because you missed out on 100 K HYPER you wanted to dump lol. Ditto to you buddy, ditto to you.

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July 13, 2014, 04:40:19 PM
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there are now over 250 (or whatever, didn't check)
467+, according to coinreporting.com

I have a suggestion for new wallet functionality:

A possibility to sent recurring transfers, like 10 HBN every day to some other wallet until you cancel it, or with an end date that you provide. Would be quite fancy and unique. (as far as I know being a newby)
I like it. Plus a automatic HBN-to-flattr payment processor would be great. Far above what HBN is supposed to do payment processing is not HBN's job) but still an interesting thing to consider.

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July 13, 2014, 05:45:21 PM
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Every coin I hold has taken a beating since 1st July.
People cashing out for holidays? idk, just a thought? Opinions?

I was thinking something along those lines. Summer vacations and  long-weekends usually means lower volumes and people cashing out to pay for trips. Also people want money to party, home renovations etc etc.

This is what I think has affected most coins.

In my opinion people are selling most of alts for BTC. Big promising BTC and Pay Pal fusion.
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July 13, 2014, 05:51:10 PM
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A small feature I would like to see in the next update is a select dust option in coin control. Something that automatically selects blocks under a size amount, say 5 or something like that. Maybe even in the options menu you can select how big you want the dust size to be. This could make it easier to organise and combine smaller sized blocks.
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July 13, 2014, 06:53:38 PM
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Version 1.5 is now being started. Please see this thread at CCT for updates as they happen. I expect a few months dev, q/a time, and relased in Q3 '14

If you have any comments feel free to post here or in the offical 1.5 thread.

https://cryptocointalk.com/topic/13199-preparing-hbn-v15/?p=110260

Thanks!

I have a suggestion for new wallet functionality:

A possibility to sent recurring transfers, like 10 HBN every day to some other wallet until you cancel it, or with an end date that you provide. Would be quite fancy and unique. (as far as I know being a newby)

+1
would be a great tool for organizing staking blocks, payouts to various things. I think this is a great idea!

EDIT: I like Jamesco's suggestion as well. Combine the two, and you've vastly improved the coin control features!

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July 13, 2014, 06:56:35 PM
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Every coin I hold has taken a beating since 1st July.
People cashing out for holidays? idk, just a thought? Opinions?

That's been my thought. I can only speak to my own country, cuz I haven't been out of it in over twenty years, but mid summer, Americans in general get stupid with vacations, parties, and bullshit. I suspect the heat cooks their brains. Me, I stay in when it's over a hundred degrees Cheesy

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July 13, 2014, 07:16:48 PM
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Version 1.5 is now being started. Please see this thread at CCT for updates as they happen. I expect a few months dev, q/a time, and relased in Q3 '14

If you have any comments feel free to post here or in the offical 1.5 thread.

https://cryptocointalk.com/topic/13199-preparing-hbn-v15/?p=110260

Thanks!

I have a suggestion for new wallet functionality:

A possibility to sent recurring transfers, like 10 HBN every day to some other wallet until you cancel it, or with an end date that you provide. Would be quite fancy and unique. (as far as I know being a newby)

+1
would be a great tool for organizing staking blocks, payouts to various things. I think this is a great idea!

EDIT: I like Jamesco's suggestion as well. Combine the two, and you've vastly improved the coin control features!

Stakeforcharity will already do this. I use it everyday 24/7.

A small feature I would like to see in the next update is a select dust option in coin control. Something that automatically selects blocks under a size amount, say 5 or something like that. Maybe even in the options menu you can select how big you want the dust size to be. This could make it easier to organise and combine smaller sized blocks.

Yes this will be fixed up as well. Better combine/split threshold, plus switches to allow users to control this, at least to some extent.

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July 13, 2014, 07:29:30 PM
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Thank tokyo. Another question for everyone:

Having merchants that want to KEEP a coin is what can make it appreciate in value. If they simply accept them and then dump them for btc/usd the value stays the same, or perhaps even decreases.
Even bitcoin is not kept by merchants, AFAIK. Bookeeping requires fiat, how could the keep BTC? I guess this questions has been asked several time, please feel free to point me at any discussion relative to this topic.

By the way, I just twittered about allcoins.com and got a +50 votes for HBN as a consequence (new +50 vote tweet initiative). Since HBN is #2, it will probably soon be added (especially if other holders do the same). Then we could move to promoting the second high-PoS (currently CAP).
https://twitter.com/davidlatapie/status/488356762689736704

Finally, I started a comparison feature of familiar high-PoS. The goal is not competition (X is best than Y) but cross-fertilisation (X has feature A but not feature B that Y has; let's add it). Inspiration is the improvement in 3D video card after 3D benchmarks arrived in the 90's. I only added feature that are unambiguously beneficial (bold part, the italic part are just information and prone to change).
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I see no reason a merchant/business couldn't keep BTC. Just declare the value of BTC to fiat at time of purchase. Then when the btc is used(converted) they would simply need to declare a capital loss/gain. At least that is how I understand it.

Thanks for the votes! And nice spread sheet. i am sure that could be handy for new users into the scene.

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July 14, 2014, 03:39:52 AM
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I feel like I have to talk about something. I understand every coins taken a beating in July and they have, market sentiment seems negative at the moment, perfectly normal in cyclical markets.

Still something feels forced. Consistent looks at the Depth chart show Buy support is ALWAYS larger than sell support yet there's consistent~5-29000k dumps every day. Each dump waits for support to build and purposefully crashes through that support to reach a new low. In the last week alone we have seen over 230,000HBN dumped. The issue is that who ever is dumping isn't trying to maximise individual profit at all, it seems they are either:

a,Aiming at HBN hitting a certain price,
b, trying to crash the market,
or C, there's lots of medium stake holders leaving the market which are panicking and stupid frantically hitting the sell button.

We all know these are amazing times to buy in. I would of killed for these price just a month ago. Why the exodus? And more importantly who's buying in? If we have fresh community members, please introduce yourselves.

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July 14, 2014, 04:24:43 AM
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I feel like I have to talk about something. I understand every coins taken a beating in July and they have, market sentiment seems negative at the moment, perfectly normal in cyclical markets.

Still something feels forced. Consistent looks at the Depth chart show Buy support is ALWAYS larger than sell support yet there's consistent~5-29000k dumps every day. Each dump waits for support to build and purposefully crashes through that support to reach a new low. In the last week alone we have seen over 230,000HBN dumped. The issue is that who ever is dumping isn't trying to maximise individual profit at all, it seems they are either:

a,Aiming at HBN hitting a certain price,
b, trying to crash the market,
or C, there's lots of medium stake holders leaving the market which are panicking and stupid frantically hitting the sell button.

We all know these are amazing times to buy in. I would of killed for these price just a month ago. Why the exodus? And more importantly who's buying in? If we have fresh community members, please introduce yourselves.



I actually see the same thing with a number of coins, not all of which are PoS. I think there are some big players manipulating the market for some purpose. I can't prove it of course, but I see the same thing as you. BIG sell wall gets knocked down out of the blue, then spirals down towards the next one, then rises a bit, then it happens again. Which means somebody or some group is dumping a LOT of BTC into whatever is going on.

Or people are just bailing en masse, but that seems unlikely.

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July 14, 2014, 06:08:15 AM
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Just added HoboNickels to the vote list on coin-swap.net. This is where HYP trades and the dev and GUI is pretty slick. I think HBN would be fun to have there so I am donating 0.05 btc to 12vy9uqoAeqM5tivo8cgpyLapsGRQUaLtd to get it started off.

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July 14, 2014, 06:57:46 AM
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Hi tranz,
From a marketing perspective I think hobonickels is not being promoted and adopted actively enough
More needs to be done. If mass adoption is to take place then,

The Nickels community needs more incentives to get it going.
I also think the 500 coin max limit wont help.

Not to be too worried about inflation. Other coins also face inflation with other costs such as mining/electricity
The Nickels dev team must first look at the cost/profit outcome for the entire nickel community. If the community does  not see profit they will dump this coin
A market place within the wallet also should be considered.All the devs are vying for this
From an economic perspective the 2% is also not going to help keep the community involved. Stakers dont want to keep thier coins staking at the cost of pc usage, electricity, and time. It is not economically feasible. The rewards must must offset the expense. Just like the flaw that bitcoin is not dealing with,(Cost of minig verse profit)

If what I am saying is nonsense then I want the Nickels community to watch the coins current marketcap. If the coin goes back to its marketcap highs then I wont post again here but if I am right then I still wont need to post here because the coin will be gone way down the marketcap rank or maybe even dead.
The competition in the coin market is too fierce now, thats why Nickels has been steadily in decline. Simply put Nickels needs to change or die

Remember success is based on incentives, incentives, incentives. The community needs incentives to keep this coin
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I feel like I have to talk about something. I understand every coins taken a beating in July and they have, market sentiment seems negative at the moment, perfectly normal in cyclical markets.

Still something feels forced. Consistent looks at the Depth chart show Buy support is ALWAYS larger than sell support yet there's consistent~5-29000k dumps every day. Each dump waits for support to build and purposefully crashes through that support to reach a new low. In the last week alone we have seen over 230,000HBN dumped. The issue is that who ever is dumping isn't trying to maximise individual profit at all, it seems they are either:

a,Aiming at HBN hitting a certain price,
b, trying to crash the market,
or C, there's lots of medium stake holders leaving the market which are panicking and stupid frantically hitting the sell button.

We all know these are amazing times to buy in. I would of killed for these price just a month ago. Why the exodus? And more importantly who's buying in? If we have fresh community members, please introduce yourselves.



I actually see the same thing with a number of coins, not all of which are PoS. I think there are some big players manipulating the market for some purpose. I can't prove it of course, but I see the same thing as you. BIG sell wall gets knocked down out of the blue, then spirals down towards the next one, then rises a bit, then it happens again. Which means somebody or some group is dumping a LOT of BTC into whatever is going on.

Or people are just bailing en masse, but that seems unlikely.

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July 14, 2014, 12:30:55 PM
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I also think the 500 coin max limit wont help.What is the optimal block size for HBN? I update the feature comparison list with following column:
I added a "Optimal block size" column on the Proof-of-stake List - Features comparison page.

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July 14, 2014, 02:30:22 PM
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A market place within the wallet also should be considered.All the devs are vying for this

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Wow, that would be a game-changer! But isn't that very difficult to program?

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July 14, 2014, 02:35:29 PM
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If you sell or buy from within the wallet itself where do the BTC balance go?

Will there be somewhere to load our BTC address for deposit and withdrawal?

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I'm with ryanb on this ... not sure I'm understanding what a "marketplace in the wallet" even is
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Another small idea would could be nice is a useful links section in the client. You could add a freenode chat link( which we could use for getting to know others in the community), the blockexplorer, this btcointalk thread, cryptsy trade, and maybe the main website all accessible from the client.
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Since we are on the adding list spree

add rich list on it hahahah


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I'm with ryanb on this ... not sure I'm understanding what a "marketplace in the wallet" even is

I imagine cryptsy-like lists for buying and selling offers.

But to make it work you either need some automated escrow service or integrated BTC wallet functionality.
Either way seems pretty hard to program, if possible at all. But it would be the innovation of the year I guess.

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