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Author Topic: HoboNickels - HBN - High Fast Stake - Version 2.0! More Secure, Less Intensive  (Read 432571 times)
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September 12, 2014, 08:14:18 AM
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Hi Tranz, do you have any best guess what date the eventual hard fork will be? 

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September 12, 2014, 11:58:00 AM
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"5) Add a max stake value of 500 coins."

Does this mean that holding blocks of more than 500 coins will not generate bigger stake?

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September 12, 2014, 12:14:16 PM
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NO, you get it wrong. This is MAX reward for a POS block. So if you have blocks < 20k HBN you should be fine.
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September 12, 2014, 01:06:52 PM
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NO, you get it wrong. This is MAX reward for a POS block. So if you have blocks < 20k HBN you should be fine.

thanks for the explanation
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September 12, 2014, 06:31:07 PM
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Why add that max stake? Does the larger block bog down the network? I constantly refold my blocks in to prevent thousands of sub 1 HBN stakes. I'm not quite at the 25k HBN block yet, but I recently made a 20k block.

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September 12, 2014, 06:37:33 PM
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Tranz, how can i see S4C transactions?? I activated S4C but i don't know if it's working.
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September 12, 2014, 07:44:35 PM
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Why didn't you guys support Hobonickels on the Facebook MultiCoin app? It's a great promotional tool to reach non Crypto peeps

Where is the facebook Link.  I will like and share with my friends.
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September 12, 2014, 10:53:53 PM
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Hi Tranz, do you have any best guess what date the eventual hard fork will be?  

Nov/Dec most likely. Not hard date yet. I still have a bit more work to do before I code up the hard fork. I have been busy with other things the last few days haven't had much time to code.


Why add that max stake? Does the larger block bog down the network? I constantly refold my blocks in to prevent thousands of sub 1 HBN stakes. I'm not quite at the 25k HBN block yet, but I recently made a 20k block.

The main reason is to incentive people to stake on a daily basis rather then only a few times with large blocks. Mostly it would be to prevent someone from simply holding thousands of coins offline, and then bring them back online after a long time and get a very large reward, for doing almost no network protection.

Tranz, how can i see S4C transactions?? I activated S4C but i don't know if it's working.

They will show up in the transaction page after the send goes through. You can see where and how much you are giving my clicking on the Stake For Charity tab, or the Network->Extended PoS Information menu option.

Why didn't you guys support Hobonickels on the Facebook MultiCoin app? It's a great promotional tool to reach non Crypto peeps

Where is the facebook Link.  I will like and share with my friends.

http://www.hobonickels.info/ will have all the links.

The facebook is here:  https://www.facebook.com/pages/Hobonickels-HBN-Crypto-Currency/672818916094322

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September 13, 2014, 08:57:39 AM
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Tranz, how can i see S4C transactions?? I activated S4C but i don't know if it's working.

They will show up in the transaction page after the send goes through. You can see where and how much you are giving my clicking on the Stake For Charity tab, or the Network->Extended PoS Information menu option.


Well, i am using beta 2 wallet, in S4C tab i see a green text "Thank you giving.....", in Extended PoS Info tab i can also see percentage and S4C address. But i had 2 PoS blocks yesterday and there are no S4C transactions in my list.
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Tranz, how can i see S4C transactions?? I activated S4C but i don't know if it's working.

They will show up in the transaction page after the send goes through. You can see where and how much you are giving my clicking on the Stake For Charity tab, or the Network->Extended PoS Information menu option.


Well, i am using beta 2 wallet, in S4C tab i see a green text "Thank you giving.....", in Extended PoS Info tab i can also see percentage and S4C address. But i had 2 PoS blocks yesterday and there are no S4C transactions in my list.


Did you set any values for the min/max boxes in the S4C tab?  I have S4C set to 50% with min = 2.  If 50% of the stake is less than what I have set in the min box then the S4C will not split that stake transaction.  Believe the default value for the min box = 0.
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September 13, 2014, 01:38:53 PM
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Tranz, how can i see S4C transactions?? I activated S4C but i don't know if it's working.

They will show up in the transaction page after the send goes through. You can see where and how much you are giving my clicking on the Stake For Charity tab, or the Network->Extended PoS Information menu option.


Well, i am using beta 2 wallet, in S4C tab i see a green text "Thank you giving.....", in Extended PoS Info tab i can also see percentage and S4C address. But i had 2 PoS blocks yesterday and there are no S4C transactions in my list.

You won't see them as S4C, unless you have them labeled that way. They will only show up as normal send transactions. If they are not showing up, it could be the min/max value (if set) preventing them from sending. As Crypto_chellie suggested.

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September 13, 2014, 01:40:20 PM
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Tranz, how can i see S4C transactions?? I activated S4C but i don't know if it's working.

They will show up in the transaction page after the send goes through. You can see where and how much you are giving my clicking on the Stake For Charity tab, or the Network->Extended PoS Information menu option.


Well, i am using beta 2 wallet, in S4C tab i see a green text "Thank you giving.....", in Extended PoS Info tab i can also see percentage and S4C address. But i had 2 PoS blocks yesterday and there are no S4C transactions in my list.


Did you set any values for the min/max boxes in the S4C tab?  I have S4C set to 50% with min = 2.  If 50% of the stake is less than what I have set in the min box then the S4C will not split that stake transaction.  Believe the default value for the min box = 0.

Correct.
By default Min is the MIN_TX_AMT which is .0001. Max is MAX_MONEY_SUPPLY which is 120MM ;-)

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September 13, 2014, 06:03:01 PM
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Tranz, was able to successfully add the latest S4C changes to HyperStake! Thanks for all your good work.  Should we update the daemon makefiles as well?

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September 14, 2014, 03:29:24 AM
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Tranz, was able to successfully add the latest S4C changes to HyperStake! Thanks for all your good work.  Should we update the daemon makefiles as well?

Glad to hear it, your start to the gui helped quite a bit, so thank you too.

I don't believe these changes require updates to other make files, as the dialog pages would only effect the qt client. Although to be honest I haven't tried a daemon compile in a while. So if you find out differently just let me know..

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September 14, 2014, 09:38:44 PM
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I switched back to 1.4.0.1 for now.

reasons:

  • The last few days a lot of my staking coins ended up in change addresses.
  • Trying to consolidate coins back from change addresses to the original stake address using coin control would fail with "The amount exceeds your balance"
    (even though my transfer amount was smaller than the selected inputs - fees)
  • S4C would sometimes send the transaction twice (double the amount)
  • S4C would sometimes stop working even though enabled (no S4C transactions)

I was a bit worried that switching back to 1.4.0.1 would cause wallet compatibility issues but it worked fine and I was able to consolidate my coins into a single staking address again.
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    Ninjarobot, thanks for the feedback, see below

I switched back to 1.4.0.1 for now.

reasons:

  • The last few days a lot of my staking coins ended up in change addresses.
As the S4C is sent, the remainder of the block is sent to a randomly selected change address. PressF1 has also stated he would like to custom address be selectable for S4C. This is in my plans but for now it is not ready.
  • Trying to consolidate coins back from change addresses to the original stake address using coin control would fail with "The amount exceeds your balance"
    (even though my transfer amount was smaller than the selected inputs - fees)
This I am not so sure about, and is not something I have seen. Perhaps some discrepancy between the wallet.dat and the wallet index(database)
  • S4C would sometimes send the transaction twice (double the amount)
If the block that triggers the S4C does not get  accepted, and you get a new block(re-org), this is possible. It seems to be very low occurrence, but is something I am looking for a solution to.
  • S4C would sometimes stop working even though enabled (no S4C transactions)
Not sure here, was this after a restart of the client, or while it was running for a while?
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I was a bit worried that switching back to 1.4.0.1 would cause wallet compatibility issues but it worked fine and I was able to consolidate my coins into a single staking address again.

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September 15, 2014, 03:14:25 AM
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Question for everyone.

I am going to be making a choice about IRC. There are 2 options that I see.

#1 Remove it completely from the code. It is already disabled and will only use IRC if the users forces it with -irc=1.
#2 Or we can also keep it in there and I can add to it, so it will connect to a IRC channel and allow users to chat with each other. The wallet will not use it to look for peers though.

Do we remove and forget about IRC, or keep it and expand it's usage?

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Replace "email" with "IRC".
Just tongue-in-cheek, though. I'd like to have it active on HYP to see if people use it (since HYP is all about experimenting and also have a pretty active IRC, it would make sense).

The main reason is to incentive people to stake on a daily basis rather then only a few times with large blocks. Mostly it would be to prevent someone from simply holding thousands of coins offline, and then bring them back online after a long time and get a very large reward, for doing almost no network protection.
A very elegant explanation, much better than the ones I came up with. I just  updated the HyperStake Wikia page about max subsidy accordingly.

Finally, regarding 1.5 beta 2: out of the version number mentionning 1.4.8 (I assume it is related to a technical constraint with github), very nice. First, it finally compiled (you remember I could not compile previous versions. Unfortunately, I had to redownload the whole blockchain. Not a big deal, but worth mentionning.

Oh! I also notice you finally fixed the ugly positionning of the "New", "Add" and "Upload" button on the bottom left by increasing the width of the buttons. Much better now Smiley

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September 15, 2014, 03:33:12 AM
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Tranz, was able to successfully add the latest S4C changes to HyperStake! Thanks for all your good work.  Should we update the daemon makefiles as well?

Glad to hear it, your start to the gui helped quite a bit, so thank you too.

I don't believe these changes require updates to other make files, as the dialog pages would only effect the qt client. Although to be honest I haven't tried a daemon compile in a while. So if you find out differently just let me know..

I have added the caps auto saving feature to next release of Fluttercoin, and gitian compiles work, as do makefile compiles to, so no changes should be needed on your end.


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CrazyLoaf's CrazySteak(TM) High Pos Investment Journal

Got a little bored at how quiet the high PoS investment arena can be at times, so I started a journal.

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I think, everyone is getting on the right train. Don't get left behind.  Grin

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