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September 28, 2014, 11:31:23 PM
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Thanks guys, sorry about that. I hadn't plan on moving all int64 to int64_t until 1.6, but looks like it is a bit of a mess, so I'll see about cleaning that up.

Here is my plan for finishing up these last few things before coding up the hard fork.

Add Traffic Network (done)
Add Peer Information(done)
Add some coin control updates
Add totaling of transactions
Add windows shutdown notification. Help prevent wallet corruption.
Fix a few of the things mentioned about S4C
Refactor the combine/split of stakes and allow more user control of it.
Update the Stake kernal, see NVC. This is still a maybe, as I have to test it out for a bit. But should require even less CPU to stake.
Change to int64_t
Add -reindex (maybe)


Just finished up another on the list.
https://github.com/Tranz5/HoboNickels/commit/c9e91a0b800f3e20a1b84d5b7957626c1cb5b445

1/2 done with S4C enhancements.  Change address now available.

https://github.com/Tranz5/HoboNickels/commit/95bbc2f976d10845b05393b886cd090d6b7a793f
https://github.com/Tranz5/HoboNickels/commit/b64a201969532e475c0eb0afab19f5106a9a3977

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September 29, 2014, 02:43:50 AM
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High PoS Coin IRC Society

So I've been watching Hyperstake (HYP) and noted that they have a fairly active community going on in their IRC. Unlike the usual junk altcoins vying to "replace BTC" before crashing in value as "investors" move on to the next coin, high PoS coins can exist in harmony since they all provide different features and risk/return profiles to the cryptocurrency *asset* market.

Right now, I'm trying to see if there is interest in having a joint IRC channel for such coins. I'm looking to involve established coins with at least semi-active developers.

Feel free to reply and/or PM me with suggestions as well as anything that you'd be willing to offer, help with, or spearhead. I don't mind topping off tipbots, games, and other aspects, but I'm looking to have something that the community runs and is interested in doing. Thanks and happy staking Smiley
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September 29, 2014, 07:29:50 AM
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Thanks guys, sorry about that. I hadn't plan on moving all int64 to int64_t until 1.6, but looks like it is a bit of a mess, so I'll see about cleaning that up.

Here is my plan for finishing up these last few things before coding up the hard fork.

Add Traffic Network (done)
Add Peer Information(done)
Add some coin control updates
Add totaling of transactions
Add windows shutdown notification. Help prevent wallet corruption.
Fix a few of the things mentioned about S4C
Refactor the combine/split of stakes and allow more user control of it.
Update the Stake kernal, see NVC. This is still a maybe, as I have to test it out for a bit. But should require even less CPU to stake.
Change to int64_t
Add -reindex (maybe)


Just finished up another on the list.
https://github.com/Tranz5/HoboNickels/commit/c9e91a0b800f3e20a1b84d5b7957626c1cb5b445

1/2 done with S4C enhancements.  Change address now available.

https://github.com/Tranz5/HoboNickels/commit/95bbc2f976d10845b05393b886cd090d6b7a793f
https://github.com/Tranz5/HoboNickels/commit/b64a201969532e475c0eb0afab19f5106a9a3977


Thanks Tranz, for all this effort! As for me, I am especially happy with the possibility to choose where S4C-change is going to end up. Minimizes the risk of getting it sent to addresses you don't have a wallet back-up for. And the added control over combine and split stakes is a nice improvement too. I'd like to add that i think the selection from 5 to 20 coins is a balanced range.

All in all it's going to be much more attractive just to leave your stash staking away and thus improving the security of the network.

 

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September 29, 2014, 09:36:36 AM
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my hobo wallet.dat is probably corrupted
I could not start the client with that .dat
and I was forced to erase everything (took a back up of wallet.dat) and restarted with an empty wallet

is there a way to import that wallet ?
wallet has been encrypted

currently waiting for the blockchain to redownload

You generally do not have to, and should right away just erase everything.  You should first backup the wallet and database dir, then try to start the client with -salvagewallet . This usually fixes any corruption.

Regarding your question, if you created the export wallet(plain txt) file, you can use the import wallet to combine wallets. You can also use the importprivkey rpc command if you know have the privatekeys.

OK just importing the corrupt wallet was good enough

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September 29, 2014, 09:51:22 AM
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Thanks guys, sorry about that. I hadn't plan on moving all int64 to int64_t until 1.6, but looks like it is a bit of a mess, so I'll see about cleaning that up.

Here is my plan for finishing up these last few things before coding up the hard fork.

Add Traffic Network (done)
Add Peer Information(done)
Add some coin control updates
Add totaling of transactions
Add windows shutdown notification. Help prevent wallet corruption.
Fix a few of the things mentioned about S4C
Refactor the combine/split of stakes and allow more user control of it.
Update the Stake kernal, see NVC. This is still a maybe, as I have to test it out for a bit. But should require even less CPU to stake.
Change to int64_t
Add -reindex (maybe)


Just finished up another on the list.
https://github.com/Tranz5/HoboNickels/commit/c9e91a0b800f3e20a1b84d5b7957626c1cb5b445

That's a good idea to set up user configurable stake split/combine thresholds. Not everyone can compile a modified wallet on their own. This works nice, I've experimented with my HBN tip jar in this regard.

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September 29, 2014, 02:48:11 PM
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Cool. Any idea why it won't let me sign my HBN address on the richlist? I've tried several times in the last few days to no avail. Thanks Smiley

Site field "owner" and wallet field "message" must be the same and not empty.
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September 29, 2014, 04:23:29 PM
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I have made a small quality of life change to CCE. Post links have been changed to get links on most pages.

This means that information in the explorer is now linkable:

Example:

http://hbn.cryptocoinexplorer.com/block?block=1256080

Cool. Any idea why it won't let me sign my HBN address on the richlist? I've tried several times in the last few days to no avail. Thanks Smiley

Hmm, that is strange. There are names on the list and I have not changed any code relating to that system since implemented.

This is one of those systems that either fully works or not at all. The message checking is a simple True/False return from the coin daemon. If true CCE places the owner information in the owners field on the address table in the row the address populates. There really is not much that can go wrong.

Are you receiving an error page or does CCE send you to the accepted page after you enter your information and click verify?

Also be aware that owner names are filtered and only upper/lowercase letters numbers  spaces  .   / are accepted. Anything else will be dropped by the filter.
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September 29, 2014, 08:08:03 PM
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it is really strange, my registration was accepted but my name is still missing
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September 29, 2014, 11:36:14 PM
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That's a good idea to set up user configurable stake split/combine thresholds. Not everyone can compile a modified wallet on their own. This works nice, I've experimented with my HBN tip jar in this regard.


Ghostlander your work on the split/combine in ORB spurred my thought process and ability to do this so quickly. Not sure I would've gone about it this way. But it was simple and effective! So thank you.


Thanks Tranz, for all this effort! As for me, I am especially happy with the possibility to choose where S4C-change is going to end up. Minimizes the risk of getting it sent to addresses you don't have a wallet back-up for. And the added control over combine and split stakes is a nice improvement too. I'd like to add that i think the selection from 5 to 20 coins is a balanced range.

All in all it's going to be much more attractive just to leave your stash staking away and thus improving the security of the network.

 

I've tried to find a happy medium between network security and useablity. I think 5 is good for most people, and 20 should work for bigger wallets.  I was considering creating a VIP wallet for top 20 stake holders, which would allow a higher combine/threshold limit. Not sure or not, on that yet..

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September 30, 2014, 02:33:47 AM
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Thanks guys, sorry about that. I hadn't plan on moving all int64 to int64_t until 1.6, but looks like it is a bit of a mess, so I'll see about cleaning that up.

Here is my plan for finishing up these last few things before coding up the hard fork.

Add Traffic Network (done)
Add Peer Information(done)
Add some coin control updates
Add totaling of transactions
Add windows shutdown notification. Help prevent wallet corruption.
Fix a few of the things mentioned about S4C
Refactor the combine/split of stakes and allow more user control of it.
Update the Stake kernal, see NVC. This is still a maybe, as I have to test it out for a bit. But should require even less CPU to stake.
Change to int64_t
Add -reindex (maybe)


Just finished up another on the list.
https://github.com/Tranz5/HoboNickels/commit/c9e91a0b800f3e20a1b84d5b7957626c1cb5b445

1/2 done with S4C enhancements.  Change address now available.

https://github.com/Tranz5/HoboNickels/commit/95bbc2f976d10845b05393b886cd090d6b7a793f
https://github.com/Tranz5/HoboNickels/commit/b64a201969532e475c0eb0afab19f5106a9a3977


Last S4C fix, this should prevent the same send from happening twice, in the event of a reorganize.

https://github.com/Tranz5/HoboNickels/commit/8c418a459832ab4db815d349de01abd2af1b1e83

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September 30, 2014, 02:41:09 AM
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should i update wallet or no need? im on windows

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September 30, 2014, 02:48:10 AM
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should i update wallet or no need? im on windows

No need yet. I will be releasing a final beta version here soon, you can try it out then if you like. It will have everything except for the hard forks. You can also just wait for 1.5 officially, which should be the same as the beta 1.5s , minus any bugs found.

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September 30, 2014, 09:33:31 AM
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should i update wallet or no need? im on windows

No need yet. I will be releasing a final beta version here soon, you can try it out then if you like. It will have everything except for the hard forks. You can also just wait for 1.5 officially, which should be the same as the beta 1.5s , minus any bugs found.

I am looking forward to testing it!

As for the VIP idea, being within top 20 range, I would still favor the same wallet for everyone. Feels better that way to me. You made me wondering though, maybe the same thing could be achieved in an other way without the need for a special wallet.

Would it be possible to make the combine/threshold limit dependent on the size of the address staking?
At this moment number 20 is about 50K, so if the threshold would be 0,05% of this amount, it would be 25. So you would end up being able to select between 5 to 20 or the percentage which only makes sense if you are a large stakeholder.

I have no clue though if such thing is programmable. I am only being enthusiastic!






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September 30, 2014, 09:42:24 PM
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should i update wallet or no need? im on windows

No need yet. I will be releasing a final beta version here soon, you can try it out then if you like. It will have everything except for the hard forks. You can also just wait for 1.5 officially, which should be the same as the beta 1.5s , minus any bugs found.

I am looking forward to testing it!

As for the VIP idea, being within top 20 range, I would still favor the same wallet for everyone. Feels better that way to me. You made me wondering though, maybe the same thing could be achieved in an other way without the need for a special wallet.

Would it be possible to make the combine/threshold limit dependent on the size of the address staking?
At this moment number 20 is about 50K, so if the threshold would be 0,05% of this amount, it would be 25. So you would end up being able to select between 5 to 20 or the percentage which only makes sense if you are a large stakeholder.

I have no clue though if such thing is programmable. I am only being enthusiastic!




Not a bad idea, I did think of this as well. I think it could only be done via a RPC command once the wallet(s) have been loaded.  May not make it for 1.5, but will keep it in mind.

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HBN on fire lately!!  Grin  And I am talking about the repo, not the price  Tongue

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October 03, 2014, 04:23:17 AM
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HBN on fire lately!!  Grin  And I am talking about the repo, not the price  Tongue

Hehe  Smiley

Been working on getting the newest NVC fast(er) stake to work with HBN. So far no luck. Might have to scrap it for now, but feels like I am getting close.

The method he used is pretty awesome.  Cache the aged coins into memory, and run them through a lite stake hash check, if it is successful run it through the full stake test, then broadcast the block.

Hopefully I can get it included in 1.5, as it should increase the ability to stake, and decrease the CPU usage. I'll give it a few more days....

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October 03, 2014, 04:44:31 AM
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waiting for updates!

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October 03, 2014, 09:23:37 AM
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I am trying to understand how this new split and combine threshold is going to work, but I guess I need some help.

I wonder what happens if you stake 8 coins. Will it split? I guess yes cause it's bigger than 5.
But will it combine again since the result is twice an amount lower than 5 coins.

Just curious

And good luck the the stake-improvement. I don't mind waiting a little longer.

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October 03, 2014, 10:31:44 PM
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I am trying to understand how this new split and combine threshold is going to work, but I guess I need some help.

I wonder what happens if you stake 8 coins. Will it split? I guess yes cause it's bigger than 5.
But will it combine again since the result is twice an amount lower than 5 coins.

Just curious

And good luck the the stake-improvement. I don't mind waiting a little longer.

The output of 8 coins that stake would be say 2 blocks of 4.2. One of those blocks could combine with a stake that is very small, say a .5 that staked. Assuming that didn't happen, those 4.2 would stake and not split, so you would be get 1 block of 4.4 the next time and then 4.8 and then eventually over 5. Once over 5 it will split, and since you ill then have smaller blocks, 2.6 ish, they would have a chance to combine with another block. If not they will stake but not split until over 5 again.


Does that help?

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October 04, 2014, 08:13:59 AM
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I am trying to understand how this new split and combine threshold is going to work, but I guess I need some help.

I wonder what happens if you stake 8 coins. Will it split? I guess yes cause it's bigger than 5.
But will it combine again since the result is twice an amount lower than 5 coins.

Just curious

And good luck the the stake-improvement. I don't mind waiting a little longer.

The output of 8 coins that stake would be say 2 blocks of 4.2. One of those blocks could combine with a stake that is very small, say a .5 that staked. Assuming that didn't happen, those 4.2 would stake and not split, so you would be get 1 block of 4.4 the next time and then 4.8 and then eventually over 5. Once over 5 it will split, and since you ill then have smaller blocks, 2.6 ish, they would have a chance to combine with another block. If not they will stake but not split until over 5 again.


Does that help?

Yes, thanks, I think so! I never realized the combining was possibly done with other blocks than the ones just created after splitting. That brings up another question: how does the algorithm decides which block to pick to combine with? A block that brings the combined amount closest to 5 or a smaller block with as less coin age as possible?


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