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February 11, 2014, 04:03:55 PM |
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I don't think that's the company. Also, you don't need to be incorporated in PA to operate in PA. C'mon guys!!! I think the Delaware registration I provided is the company that we are talking about here. The name is "Advanced Mining Technologies inc" Says the same thing in the domain registration! http://whois.net/whois/advancedminers.comTECHNOLOGIES.. NOT TECHNOLOGY. You folks are insane! |
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February 11, 2014, 04:13:34 PM |
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What the hell are you talking about, isn't AMT registered in Delaware?
Is 5341525 not their Delaware registration?
No, AMT did not admitted they are registered in Delaware. They could be misrepresenting that company. Until AMT comes here and say in clear words they are that entity, this is just an assumption. Ok.... if AMT is fraudulent as you claim, why haven't I heard a lot of complaints about lack of delivery of their Bitfury based systems? I did not say AMT is fraudulent. I once said they are a suspicious fraudulent business. Quite different statements. If AMT come here and present evidence they are a registered business, I will be extremely less suspicious of their activities. I understand they can have delays, lack of communication and other minor issues. Okay... explain to me.. who registered "Advanced Mining Technologies Inc" in Delaware last year? Here is the record: https://delecorp.delaware.gov/tin/controller registered 5/29/2013 Here is domain registration details: http://who.godaddy.com/whois.aspx?k=pxMGrADjhAJQNk2/WCSgT16fiKgEn04G8ufwU3MZRuQbY2iLvQciQOF702xxcyYrMGSwtpknN8c=&domain=advancedminers.com&prog_id=GoDaddyWebsite registered 9/2013. Everything checks out. Stop pointing to all kinds of companies with different names and registered like a decade ago!!! |
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February 11, 2014, 04:22:55 PM |
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Yes, AMT should explain themselves. Everything checks out. Stop pointing to all kinds of companies with different names and registered like a decade ago!!!
Ok... explain to me this. https://advancedminers.com/Copyright © 2013 Advanced Mining Technology Inc All rights reserved.
https://www.corporations.state.pa.us/corp/soskb/Corp.asp?868855ADVANCED MINING TECHNOLOGY, INC.
That's a match. They are using that business name. It's not my mistake. |
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February 11, 2014, 04:23:53 PM |
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What the hell are you talking about, isn't AMT registered in Delaware?
Is 5341525 not their Delaware registration?
No, AMT did not admitted they are registered in Delaware. They could be misrepresenting that company. Until AMT comes here and say in clear words they are that entity, this is just an assumption. Ok.... if AMT is fraudulent as you claim, why haven't I heard a lot of complaints about lack of delivery of their Bitfury based systems? I did not say AMT is fraudulent. I once said they are a suspicious fraudulent business. Quite different statements. If AMT come here and present evidence they are a registered business, I will be extremely less suspicious of their activities. I understand they can have delays, lack of communication and other minor issues. I will be honest, you are refusing to look at the evidence and are borderline accusing a company of fraud. |
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February 11, 2014, 04:25:06 PM |
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You are not clever as you may think. That is why people like you usually ends easily defrauded. |
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February 11, 2014, 04:25:56 PM |
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Advanced Mining Technologies is the official name. Says so in DNS and Delaware registration. It is likey their mistake on the website. But given how sloppy they've been, I would not be surprised! |
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February 11, 2014, 04:27:48 PM |
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You are not clever as you may think. That is why people like you usually ends easily defrauded. Curious, do you think Bitmine.ch is also fraudulent? They've been equally as sloppy as AMT. |
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February 11, 2014, 04:34:25 PM |
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This forum has become shit again.... Thanks guys.
* i am sure your attitude will change once you start seeing us get our miners from amt.
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February 11, 2014, 04:39:59 PM |
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Advanced Mining Technologies is the official name. Says so in DNS and Delaware registration.
It is likey their mistake on the website. But given how sloppy they've been, I would not be surprised!
Ok, where's their PA registration? Anyone doing business in PA is required to register their business as such. It doesn't matter where they are incorporated. Are they doing business in PA illegally? |
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February 11, 2014, 04:45:48 PM |
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Curious, do you think Bitmine.ch is also fraudulent? They've been equally as sloppy as AMT.
Nice attempt to divert the focus of the discussion when you realize you do not know what are you babbling about. Please, look this: https://i.imgur.com/xvGtJHO.jpgThere is a stick where I read "Advanced Mining Technology, INC" https://i.imgur.com/U3P1NSY.jpgThere is a sign where I read "Advanced Mining Technology, INC"  There is a paragraph where I read "Advanced Mining Technology INC"  There is an invoice where I read "Advanced Mining Technology INC" So, this is not just a mistake. AMT is deliberately using the name of an already registered company which they certainly do not own. |
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February 11, 2014, 04:47:48 PM |
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Curious, do you think Bitmine.ch is also fraudulent? They've been equally as sloppy as AMT.
Nice attempt to divert the focus of the discussion when you realize you do not know what are you babbling about. Please, look this: https://i.imgur.com/xvGtJHO.jpgThere is a stick where I read "Advanced Mining Technology, INC" https://i.imgur.com/U3P1NSY.jpgThere is a sign where I read "Advanced Mining Technology, INC" There is a paragraph where I read "Advanced Mining Technology INC" There is an invoice where I read "Advanced Mining Technology INC" So, this is not just a mistake. AMT is deliberately using the name of an already registered company which they certainly do not own. Explain to me then why the DNS is registered to "Advanced Mining Technologies inc". |
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February 11, 2014, 05:24:35 PM |
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.... borderline accusing a company of fraud.
For my part, you can leave out the "borderline". "Fraud is a deception deliberately practiced in order to secure unfair or unlawful gain "They were and still are deliberately deceitful regarding their 28nm miners shipping dates and power consumption - if nothing else. How does that compare to bitmine et al ? There is no hard evidence bitmine (CT/HF/BA/..) missing their target shipping dates was deliberate or expected for them. Unless someone comes up with evidence that shows they originally promised shipping in a timeframe that was not possible with their internal timeframes or what they received from their fab and suppliers, its reasonable to assume those delays were unexpected and unintended slips. Unless someone comes up with internal documents from HF and CT that shows they fully expected their chips to draw more power or perform worse than what they promised, its reasonable to assume those were "honest" engineering and/or simulation failures. But we all knew the datasheets and timetables bitmine promised, yet for some reason, AMT thought it could get away promising >2x better power efficiency and promising to ship miners earlier than bitmine even expected to receive chips and continued to do so after bitmine publicly announced their delay. We all know they think their customers are idiots, but that is deliberate deception to secure unfair or unlawful gain. I.e. fraud. NB; after all this time, AMT have yet to say a thing in this thread about their invalid and invalidated power consumption claims. |
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February 11, 2014, 05:27:44 PM |
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oh gawd, here come the "heros" again. Trying to save us all.
nevermind the photos, and the videos, and the miner they have sent out for a review and the endorsement from the chip manufacturer ...
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February 11, 2014, 05:34:11 PM |
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Explain to me then why the DNS is registered to "Advanced Mining Technologies inc".
Perhaps a mistake? Perhaps as reference to the Delaware registered company? Perhaps a deliberate attempt to cause confusion? It is up to AMT come here and explain this to you, not me. |
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February 11, 2014, 05:39:03 PM |
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By the way: The evidence indicates that this is an one-man business façade using the registered name of a legal entity to instigate a sense false of confidence. I asked ATM_miners what was the legal entity which represents the sales being offered in the advancedminers.com Internet page. Instead to him clarify the matter by identifying who responds for the "Advanced Mining Technologies", he decided to ignore the question: Joshua Zipkin is one of our employees, some came to his house this morning asking to buying a miner and was walking around his property really suspiciously.
Please remove that post, your endangering the guys family.. seriously.
Hi, I am sorry, but the post will remain there. By the way, if you are not Joshua Zipkin, who are you? Who legally represents the business selling the products on advancedminers.com? Where the legal entity is registered? Augusto Croppo. We'll have to respond accordingly then. Thank you for jeopardizing someones family.
The question was not answered until the present moment. Therefore it is safe to assume that AMT is operating unregistered in USA. That poses a risk for customers as it is much more difficult to deal legally with an unregistered business rather than a registered business. Tell me again pls. For instance Bfl is a legal us business company and so what? I haw not heard of a single court case against them. I am not mentioning the amount of fucked customers they have |
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February 11, 2014, 05:46:04 PM |
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By the way: The evidence indicates that this is an one-man business façade using the registered name of a legal entity to instigate a sense false of confidence. I asked ATM_miners what was the legal entity which represents the sales being offered in the advancedminers.com Internet page. Instead to him clarify the matter by identifying who responds for the "Advanced Mining Technologies", he decided to ignore the question: Joshua Zipkin is one of our employees, some came to his house this morning asking to buying a miner and was walking around his property really suspiciously.
Please remove that post, your endangering the guys family.. seriously.
Hi, I am sorry, but the post will remain there. By the way, if you are not Joshua Zipkin, who are you? Who legally represents the business selling the products on advancedminers.com? Where the legal entity is registered? Augusto Croppo. We'll have to respond accordingly then. Thank you for jeopardizing someones family.
The question was not answered until the present moment. Therefore it is safe to assume that AMT is operating unregistered in USA. That poses a risk for customers as it is much more difficult to deal legally with an unregistered business rather than a registered business. Tell me again pls. For instance Bfl is a legal us business company and so what? I haw not heard of a single court case against them. I am not mentioning the amount of fucked customers they have There is one court case against BFL and one also against Hashfast. The point that Croppo is trying to make is that AMT is a scam. Even after they've delivered miners to folks, even after they are endorsed by the chip manufacturer. Sure they are sloppy, but Bitmine.ch is also very sloppy. |
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February 11, 2014, 05:49:15 PM |
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Tell me again pls. For instance Bfl is a legal us business company and so what?
BFL got a legal registration and defrauded customers. AMT did not get a legal registration and could be defrauding customers. Please, do not tell me that just because fraudsters can legally register business you think that unregistered business have a free pass to defraud customers. Is that what you implied in your question? |
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February 11, 2014, 05:51:41 PM |
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There is one court case against BFL and one also against Hashfast. The point that Croppo is trying to make is that AMT is a scam. Even after they've delivered miners to folks, even after they are endorsed by the chip manufacturer. Sure they are sloppy, but Bitmine.ch is also very sloppy.
They are also misrepresenting the power consumption, and who knows what else. http://advancedminers.com/bitcoin-mining-hardware/1-2ths-bitcoin-miner/Power Usage 600w – 900w
We all know this is not true! |
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February 11, 2014, 05:52:17 PM |
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Tell me again pls. For instance Bfl is a legal us business company and so what?
BFL got a legal registration and defrauded customers. AMT did not get a legal registration and could be defrauding customers. Please, do not tell me that just because fraudsters can legally register business you think that unregistered business have a free pass to defraud customers. Is that what you implied in your question? AMT has been taking orders for a while now. A lot of those orders should have been delivered last month (specifically the bitfury based systems). Do you find people coming on to this board complaining about being defrauded? I hear about people receiving their units. I also see some folks selling their units on eBay. So what is your evidence that there is fraud going on? |
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February 11, 2014, 05:56:29 PM |
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There is one court case against BFL and one also against Hashfast. The point that Croppo is trying to make is that AMT is a scam. Even after they've delivered miners to folks, even after they are endorsed by the chip manufacturer. Sure they are sloppy, but Bitmine.ch is also very sloppy.
They are also misrepresenting the power consumption, and who knows what else. http://advancedminers.com/bitcoin-mining-hardware/1-2ths-bitcoin-miner/Power Usage 600w – 900w
We all know this is not true! Yes, it probably is incorrect. They also probably got the hash rate wrong too. Cointerra got that wrong too. Anyway, if they deliver 1 THs on a 1,200w system, I will be perfectly fine. Of course, I'll want a 20% discount on the price. |
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