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Author Topic: Alpha Technology Litecoin (Scrypt) ASIC Miner Order Batch 1 Now!  (Read 526266 times)
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September 03, 2014, 10:41:05 AM
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Hello Alpha,

The small claims track at North Hampton County Court is waiting for your reply.    Kiss  
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September 03, 2014, 11:40:58 AM
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What is this 'update' new design non-sense?  I ordered 5 machines and paid in full and still no response or even any actual ship date on my miners? I want the update to tell me when my miners will be on their way not new designs. Just send them already!
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September 03, 2014, 11:53:27 AM
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September 03, 2014, 01:49:58 PM
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Details on Bitmain's L1 are out: https://bitmaintech.com/productDetail.htm?pid=00020140830074550960Um75pnzg06E3

120 Mhs / $599 / December availability
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September 03, 2014, 01:56:21 PM
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Details on Bitmain's L1 are out: https://bitmaintech.com/productDetail.htm?pid=00020140830074550960Um75pnzg06E3

120 Mhs / $599 / December availability

WOW game over.
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September 03, 2014, 02:04:08 PM
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WOW game over.

Game, set and match. The key question now is will there be any scrypt coins to mine that are worth anything after this arms race ends.
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September 03, 2014, 02:16:22 PM
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WOW game over.

Game, set and match. The key question now is will there be any scrypt coins to mine that are worth anything after this arms race ends.

There won't be.  Just like small time BTC miners.

Tired of substandard power distribution in your ASIC setup???   Chris' Custom Cablez will get you sorted out right!  No job too hard so PM me for a quote
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September 03, 2014, 02:30:49 PM
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http://poolpicker.eu/

Scrypt

BLK Pool V2
0.00048120
BTC/MHs

x250 = 0,1203 btc per day (57.23 USD)

5450 gbp = 8977 dollar

8977 / 57.23 = 156,8 day ROI

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September 03, 2014, 02:40:50 PM
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Details on Bitmain's L1 are out: https://bitmaintech.com/productDetail.htm?pid=00020140830074550960Um75pnzg06E3

120 Mhs / $599 / December availability

why are you worried? , we only overpaid by 7779 dollar


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September 03, 2014, 02:41:49 PM
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http://poolpicker.eu/

Scrypt

BLK Pool V2
0.00048120
BTC/MHs

x250 = 0,1203 btc per day (57.23 USD)

5450 gbp = 8977 dollar

8977 / 57.23 = 156,8 day ROI


With scrypt hash rates going ballistic between now and the end of the year, you won't be getting $57.23 a day soon ...
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September 03, 2014, 04:21:07 PM
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http://poolpicker.eu/

Scrypt

BLK Pool V2
0.00048120
BTC/MHs

x250 = 0,1203 btc per day (57.23 USD)

5450 gbp = 8977 dollar

8977 / 57.23 = 156,8 day ROI


With scrypt hash rates going ballistic between now and the end of the year, you won't be getting $57.23 a day soon ...
yea, but it's all relative right? - if BTC were 966. instead of 483 (USD) 250mh would be making around 115. per day, ROI in half the time. Not a math guy, just looking at the numbers posted. -M

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September 03, 2014, 04:57:00 PM
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yeah, nothing in crypto remains constant, so these numbers will only go down. might be wise to keep the btc and wait until it goes back to 1000 usd...

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September 03, 2014, 05:57:46 PM
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Good ol' fashioned credit cards. Got my refund. GG.

But how did You do it? I've paid by credit card through PayPal. PayPal sent me an email, that they can not do anything, because it is more then 45 days. Actionfraud.police.co.uk sent me email, that they can not do anything, because:
Your report has been assessed by the NFIB and there is insufficient information that
would provide clear lines of investigation at this time. Clear lines of investigation
include, but are not limited to, things such as bank account details where money was
transferred to, names and addresses of the suspect(s) and where appropriate, vehicle
registration details.

So I decided to contact PayPal again and ask them for a banck account details, but the case is closed. And there is no option how to open it again, nor open a new one for the same transaction. Also they are not responding to email communication to service@paypal.com . How can I obtain AlphaTech bank account details? What Can I do now??? Please help.
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September 03, 2014, 06:25:55 PM
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yea, but it's all relative right? - if BTC were 966. instead of 483 (USD) 250mh would be making around 115. per day, ROI in half the time. Not a math guy, just looking at the numbers posted. -M

Right. And with BTC back at $100 …

OC, the calculations are different if you paid with BTC rather than fiat when you consider how many BTC you could have purchased with your fiat compared to how many you can mine.

But sure … if BTC goes to $10K by Xmas we'll all be slapping each other on the back … except people waiting for Vipers.
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September 03, 2014, 06:56:08 PM
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Hello Alpha,

The small claims track at North Hampton County Court is waiting for your reply.    Kiss  

Did you get assigned to north Hampton county court to challenge this then? As this is a Manchester company I assumed they would be held at a court somewhere within Manchester
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September 03, 2014, 07:11:02 PM
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Good ol' fashioned credit cards. Got my refund. GG.

But how did You do it? I've paid by credit card through PayPal. PayPal sent me an email, that they can not do anything, because it is more then 45 days. Actionfraud.police.co.uk sent me email, that they can not do anything, because:
Your report has been assessed by the NFIB and there is insufficient information that
would provide clear lines of investigation at this time. Clear lines of investigation
include, but are not limited to, things such as bank account details where money was
transferred to, names and addresses of the suspect(s) and where appropriate, vehicle
registration details.

So I decided to contact PayPal again and ask them for a banck account details, but the case is closed. And there is no option how to open it again, nor open a new one for the same transaction. Also they are not responding to email communication to service@paypal.com . How can I obtain AlphaTech bank account details? What Can I do now??? Please help.

Contact your CC company and start a chargeback.
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September 03, 2014, 08:45:15 PM
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Good ol' fashioned credit cards. Got my refund. GG.

But how did You do it? I've paid by credit card through PayPal. PayPal sent me an email, that they can not do anything, because it is more then 45 days. Actionfraud.police.co.uk sent me email, that they can not do anything, because:
Your report has been assessed by the NFIB and there is insufficient information that
would provide clear lines of investigation at this time. Clear lines of investigation
include, but are not limited to, things such as bank account details where money was
transferred to, names and addresses of the suspect(s) and where appropriate, vehicle
registration details.

So I decided to contact PayPal again and ask them for a banck account details, but the case is closed. And there is no option how to open it again, nor open a new one for the same transaction. Also they are not responding to email communication to service@paypal.com . How can I obtain AlphaTech bank account details? What Can I do now??? Please help.

You can call them back.  Tell them the breach occurred after 45 days.  I'd go to my cc company first anyhow, as I've seen documents indicating that PayPal advocates for the seller anyhow.

anyway, I'll repost this for your benefit and others that are looking to get their money back.  From a previous post:


Obviously, I paid via cc, so I was lucky, but for those prepping court docs, I think this applies also.

I obviously pointed out the DSR and quoted the following:

“Under the DSRs, a customer’s right to cancel is unconditional.
If customers cancel before they have received the goods, you must refund the total price of the goods, including any delivery charges.
If they cancel, they can refuse to accept delivery of the goods. This cannot be treated as a breach of contract.”
I obviously cited the DSR and quoted the following: 

DSR is here:  http://dshub.tradingstandards.gov.uk/dsrexplained

I stated that Alpha was not denying that this law would apply to consumers, but rather was trying to recategorize their customers as businesses rather than consumers.

I stated that I was not a business and also that no representation was made by Alpha prior to sale that these sales would be treated as sales to a business.  Further to that I pointed out that the tax brief they repeatedly cite was issued AFTER my purchase and that it clearly states that it is for tax purposes only:


“The tax treatments outlined in this brief are for tax purposes only. They in no way reflect on the treatment of cryptocurrencies for regulatory or other purposes.

Given the evolutionary nature of these cryptocurrencies, HMRC will issue further guidance as appropriate.

Issued 3 March 2014”

I provided a link to the tax brief also.  I printed that out also and submitted it as supporting documentation, along with their e-mail citing that brief.  That brief is here:


 http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/briefs/vat/brief0914.htm

What I also cited, which may be new to some people, is the Consumer Protection from Unfair Trading Regulations 2008, which prohibits material omissions of fact, among other things.  This omission of intent to categorize this as a B2B sale prior to sale is a material fact that was not disclosed prior to sale.  Alpha T is in violation of several things in this law.  I would recommend anyone trying to get a refund read that entire thing, there is plenty in there that can be used.

It is located here:

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukdsi/2008/9780110811574/regulation/6



I'll also tip my cap to whoever has the fightalpha.net site up.  There is a ton of good info there in terms of statements on delivery dates, etc, that can be used.  I came across it after I filed my stuff but for those going in now it is a good resource.  I will contact him on the Consumer Protection from Unfair Trading Regulations law so it can be added to his site, as I think that's important.  That law nullifies their entire claim to be able to simply recategorize consumers as businesses, among other things.



Put together your materials in an organized fashion and file.  For the items cited, cite their own e-mails to back them up.  If you have an e-mail discussion going cite that also.  You have a very good shot at getting your money back.  Yes, it's been after 45 days or whatever, however the breach of consumer law happened after that 45 day period and still before delivery and simply tell them that.

I would also recommend going to your CC company first.  I've run across material on PayPal that they will try to argue for the vendor, with whom their interest lies, so go to the CC company first if possible.  If you have to deal with PayPal, go for it.  I've seen some people argue successfully there also.

In terms of court filings, go through the materials above and cite the laws, and how their statements and actions have conflicted with them.  I think you have a very good shot there also.  I would do it ASAP, as I think these guys *will eventually fold under the legal strain and expense, so get your claims in before they fold their tents and run for the hills.   

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Good Luck.

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September 03, 2014, 08:46:32 PM
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Hello Alpha,

The small claims track at North Hampton County Court is waiting for your reply.    Kiss  

Did you get assigned to north Hampton county court to challenge this then? As this is a Manchester company I assumed they would be held at a court somewhere within Manchester

The business centre is in Northampton, afaik all claims get there first.
Later you can choose the county court for the hearing (if the judge decides to do one), i took London coz its easy to fly from Vienna to London, just in case.

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September 03, 2014, 08:46:55 PM
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see this from paypal:

https://www.paypal.com/webapps/mpp/security/resolve-disputes


Resolving Chargebacks
Chargebacks are initiated and handled by the buyer's credit card issuer – not by PayPal – and therefore will follow that company's regulations and timeframes. PayPal doesn’t decide the validity of the chargeback—that’s the job of the card issuer. PayPal’s role is simply to collect information about the transaction and help you work with the card company to resolve the chargeback.

Buyers can file chargebacks up to 120 days or more after they placed an order
If you receive a chargeback, you’ll have 10 days to answer it
Chargebacks are usually resolved in a few weeks, but can take up to 75 days or more
Here's a quick overview of the chargeback process:

The buyer requests a chargeback from their credit card company.
The credit card company notifies PayPal's merchant bank and debits the funds from PayPal.
PayPal places a hold on the seller's funds related to the chargeback.
PayPal immediately notifies the seller via email and requests information that could help to dispute the chargeback.
PayPal may ask you to provide the information needed to help you resolve the chargeback. As long as you are eligible for PayPal Seller Protection, PayPal will cover your loss even if you lose the chargeback. Learn more about chargebacks

How to Fight a Chargeback

If you've been notified of a chargeback, we'll help you sort it out.

Our team of chargeback specialists can help you build a case to take to the credit card company – assuming you have good reason to dispute it. We'll provide you with all the relevant transaction details and walk you through the steps for submitting information to the credit card company.

Here’s what to do if you receive a chargeback:

Log in to your PayPal account.
Go to the Resolution Center.
Respond to the chargeback notice or (check on the status of an existing one).
Provide PayPal with the information relating to the chargeback, including all transaction records (such as proof of shipment).
The PayPal chargeback specialist will then dispute the chargeback on your behalf and try to recover your funds from the buyer's credit card company.
if the credit card company decides in your favor, the buyer will be charged for the transaction and you'll get your money back.
If the decision is in favor of the buyer, the transaction will be cancelled and the buyer will receive a full refund.
It's PayPal's mission to help you resolve the dispute as quickly and painlessly as possible, but the process can be lengthy, so you'll need to be patient. It typically takes 30 days for PayPal to dispute the chargeback, and it may take your buyer's credit card company up to 75 days to resolve a chargeback and come to a final decision.

Chargeback Coverage with PayPal Dispute Resolution

PayPal may protect you against any future claim, chargeback or bank reversal the buyer files in relation to that particular transaction. To get the protection, you must honor the agreements you made with the buyer during the dispute resolution process. But we won't be able to offer protection if the claim has not been resolved by the time the chargeback is received.

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September 03, 2014, 08:50:26 PM
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Hello Alpha,

The small claims track at North Hampton County Court is waiting for your reply.    Kiss  

Do you mean you have sent your Directions Questionnaire to Northampton or do you mean you just have started your case at money claim online recently?

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