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[jackg]

BW.com? The mining company, they've been giving interest for years now... But their 2FA system went down a while ago (though they gave me a bypass instead).

189% per annum return isn't achievable by mining.

Well yeah it is, it's from a mining company. The interest you normally earn from a miner is normally less because of the large charge to produce the miner but it's plausible that you can get 0.3% per day in interest if they don't take very much profit from it and they then get the miners after the 30 days you funded them for...

[TheQuin]

Well yeah it is, it's from a mining company. The interest you normally earn from a miner is normally less because of the large charge to produce the miner but it's plausible that you can get 0.3% per day in interest if they don't take very much profit from it and they then get the miners after the 30 days you funded them for...

I'll leave you to make your own investment decisions, but for me any business that claims to be able to almost triple your money in a year needs to be treated with a lot of scepticism.

[jackg]

I'll leave you to make your own investment decisions, but for me any business that claims to be able to almost triple your money in a year needs to be treated with a lot of scepticism.

It is very high but it is also technically possible to offer that rate...
Bitmain seemed to offer %0.15 on their last pacmic as far as I can remember (for the year) I don't know why anyone actually bought one.

[rapidleech]

Total tickets till now : 301,044,641
Seems you really killed all of those bots.
Nice job

[TheQuin]

Total tickets till now : 301,044,641
Seems you really killed all of those bots.
Nice job

I'm pretty pleased with that so far 

[ukr_skiff]

Yes, I changed the IP address

PM me your user ID and the IP addresses and I'll ask the admin to have a look to see what you did to get banned.

very strange, but after I wrote to you, the next day I was able to play on the site, what is it connected with? Maybe my ISP came under suspicion, and then you realized that this was a mistake, and unblock it?

[TheQuin]

Yes, I changed the IP address

PM me your user ID and the IP addresses and I'll ask the admin to have a look to see what you did to get banned.

very strange, but after I wrote to you, the next day I was able to play on the site, what is it connected with? Maybe my ISP came under suspicion, and then you realized that this was a mistake, and unblock it?

You didn't send me a PM which means I don't know what the user ID or IP address are so I couldn't possibly know.

[jackg]

Yes, I changed the IP address

PM me your user ID and the IP addresses and I'll ask the admin to have a look to see what you did to get banned.

very strange, but after I wrote to you, the next day I was able to play on the site, what is it connected with? Maybe my ISP came under suspicion, and then you realized that this was a mistake, and unblock it?

Maybe you just got unlucky with the IPs that you got and those were linked to something else like a vpn or a tor exit node that was known for it's "evil"... I think that's more likely thant wetsuit whitelisting a certain IP without someone PMming him.

[TheQuin]

Maybe you just got unlucky with the IPs that you got and those were linked to something else like a vpn or a tor exit node that was known for it's "evil"... I think that's more likely thant wetsuit whitelisting a certain IP without someone PMming him.

Yes, sometimes the address lists have addresses incorrectly catalogued as being Tor/VPN/Proxy when they aren't really.

[Kprawn]

Wow, looks like you did too much good work on the bots. The 1st prize is very low for a Friday. { 0.43472280 BTC } but the

ticket sales are on par with what we had prior to the bot invasion.  I would rather compete for a lower prize than having to

compete with multiple bots. Send our regards and Thanks to Wetsuit for all his hard work. Guess it's time to buy more tickets

again. 

[TheQuin]

Wow, looks like you did too much good work on the bots. The 1st prize is very low for a Friday. { 0.43472280 BTC } but the

ticket sales are on par with what we had prior to the bot invasion.  I would rather compete for a lower prize than having to

compete with multiple bots. Send our regards and Thanks to Wetsuit for all his hard work. Guess it's time to buy more tickets

again. 

Says the guy who rolled his eyes at me when I told him that on Monday. I'd also like to thank a couple of people that contacted me with some useful information about how the bots work.

[babygun]

Good to see that the fight against bots is going well!

@TheQuin: I have changed from job and sometimes I need to go to the USA (i live in Belgium). Will it form a problem when I will log in with a different IP? The (work) laptop makes use a vpn, does that form a problem?

[jackg]

Good to see that the fight against bots is going well!

@TheQuin: I have changed from job and sometimes I need to go to the USA (i live in Belgium). Will it form a problem when I will log in with a different IP? The (work) laptop makes use a vpn, does that form a problem?

Nope that should still be alright - as long as bots haven't been run through the vpn although if they have, you can run an instance of tor or something similar at the same time in order to hide your regular IP.

I went on holiday and connected to the site while there to do something and I got through fine.

[Thirdspace]

Will it form a problem when I will log in with a different IP? The (work) laptop makes use a vpn, does that form a problem?

there shouldn't be a problem,
but if you logging in from different IP subnet, the site usually sends confirmation email
you need to click the link before you can relogin, I think it's a security measure for non 2FA account
It happened to me before because I didn't set 2FA on my account (google auth)

[TheQuin]

Good to see that the fight against bots is going well!

@TheQuin: I have changed from job and sometimes I need to go to the USA (i live in Belgium). Will it form a problem when I will log in with a different IP? The (work) laptop makes use a vpn, does that form a problem?

The only problem would be using a public VPN service. If the IP address is listed as being a VPN address then it will be blocked from free-rolls unless you meet some wagering requirements. We allow high rollers to play from anonymously but not free players.

[Gary.Wilson_Jr.]

Total tickets till now : 301,044,641
Seems you really killed all of those bots.
Nice job

I'm pretty pleased with that so far 

wow.......... it's good news that I've been waiting

If the botnet problem has been resolved, is there a plan to return all the rules like last year ?
no restrictions on reward points and no prize reduction in free rolls

or will the rules remain like now ?

[TheQuin]

wow.......... it's good news that I've been waiting

If the botnet problem has been resolved, is there a plan to return all the rules like last year ?
no restrictions on reward points and no prize reduction in free rolls

or will the rules remain like now ?

Those rules are part of how we got rid of a lot of them. Making it a -EV game for them means there is no incentive. If we put all the incentives back they will put more effort into defeating the systems we've developed.


Now I'd like some ideas from you. Part of making it a -EV game for botters was that we didn't pay the last persistent botter the lottery winnings last week. That means we've got a load of coins we want to distribute to genuine users. The idea I had was to add it to next weeks lottery prize pool to make it a super large payout. Any other suggestions?

[jackg]

Now I'd like some ideas from you. Part of making it a -EV game for botters was that we didn't pay the last persistent botter the lottery winnings last week. That means we've got a load of coins we want to distribute to genuine users. The idea I had was to add it to next weeks lottery prize pool to make it a super large payout. Any other suggestions?

Could we not have a double lottery and have 20 winners instead?
If not then your idea was a good one.

[STT]

That means we've got a load of coins we want to distribute to genuine users. The idea I had was to add it to next weeks lottery prize pool to make it a super large payout. Any other suggestions?

I think part of defeating the bot army is to make it all less calculable for them to assemble an attack for that reward.    So I wouldnt exactly just add the coins directly back in but give out this bonus towards people with genuine activity, whatever that might be but hopefully as little in resemblance to bots as can be.   Maybe a long term member or returning bonus, not sure if the problem was biased to new but not real accounts

they will put more effort into defeating the systems we've developed

Yes I think maybe they are there saying well if I spend 6 hours coding the bot to navigate this junction on the website I will get this pay out and its worth it to me.

[TheQuin]

they will put more effort into defeating the systems we've developed

Yes I think maybe they are there saying well if I spend 6 hours coding the bot to navigate this junction on the website I will get this pay out and its worth it to me.

That is definitely part of it. Bots never get frustrated but bot operators do. We can't reverse the reductions and restrictions because they forced the bots to change their behaviour and wager to increase the rewards. We were then able to adjust the requirements to make it -EV for them. That's why the 'you got rid of the bots now please put the rewards back and remove the restrictions' argument doesn't work.