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[SyGambler]

gambling always have risk, if everyone can win easily in gambling, i think all casino site would go bust 

Absolutely, those who said has been scammed by a site because they could not win but unable to give valid proofs of being scammed are just players who do not understand how gambling works.
They only think that they will make some money after some loses but in fact they keep on losing again and again till they have no more funds to bet. This kind of players should blame themselves why they keep on losing.

well yeah and we should ignore people who are complaining about losing after gambling in a 5% HE site since it's expected
but what about the lottery ?? the lottery should definitely be less shady in the future cause it's the only negative thing about the site
can't they develop a system like the one in crypto-games for example ?

[wetsuit]

gambling always have risk, if everyone can win easily in gambling, i think all casino site would go bust  

Absolutely, those who said has been scammed by a site because they could not win but unable to give valid proofs of being scammed are just players who do not understand how gambling works.
They only think that they will make some money after some loses but in fact they keep on losing again and again till they have no more funds to bet. This kind of players should blame themselves why they keep on losing.

well yeah and we should ignore people who are complaining about losing after gambling in a 5% HE site since it's expected
but what about the lottery ?? the lottery should definitely be less shady in the future cause it's the only negative thing about the site
can't they develop a system like the one in crypto-games for example ?

How is the crypto-games lottery provably fair? Their website says this is how it works:

What is this game?
This game is called lottery. You can buy lottery tickets and hope that one of your ticket numbers will be picked. The draw takes place twice per week, on Wednesday and Saturday.

How to play
Click on tab "Buy ticket" and enter number of tickets you want to buy. Each ticket costs 0.0001 BTC (10k satoshi). You can buy tickets only with Bitcoins.
Lots will be drawn each week on wednesday and saturday using random numbers generated through RandomPicker. Three winning tickets will be selected and winners will get the following prizes:
1st place: 80% of the prize pool
2nd place: 14% of the prize pool
3rd place: 4.5% of the prize pool

Payout:
98.5% of the money raised with ticket sales will be paid out to the three winners.
Rest 1.5% will go to the house for maintenance and development.

AFAIK, there is no way to implement a provably fair lottery where there is a variable number of tickets sold. If anybody can come up with a system for doing so, I would be happy to implement it like I have mentioned before quite a few times. And I would offer a generous bonus for the person doing so as well.

[SyGambler]

gambling always have risk, if everyone can win easily in gambling, i think all casino site would go bust  

Absolutely, those who said has been scammed by a site because they could not win but unable to give valid proofs of being scammed are just players who do not understand how gambling works.
They only think that they will make some money after some loses but in fact they keep on losing again and again till they have no more funds to bet. This kind of players should blame themselves why they keep on losing.

well yeah and we should ignore people who are complaining about losing after gambling in a 5% HE site since it's expected
but what about the lottery ?? the lottery should definitely be less shady in the future cause it's the only negative thing about the site
can't they develop a system like the one in crypto-games for example ?

How is the crypto-games lottery provably fair? Their website says this is how it works:

What is this game?
This game is called lottery. You can buy lottery tickets and hope that one of your ticket numbers will be picked. The draw takes place twice per week, on Wednesday and Saturday.

How to play
Click on tab "Buy ticket" and enter number of tickets you want to buy. Each ticket costs 0.0001 BTC (10k satoshi). You can buy tickets only with Bitcoins.
Lots will be drawn each week on wednesday and saturday using random numbers generated through RandomPicker. Three winning tickets will be selected and winners will get the following prizes:
1st place: 80% of the prize pool
2nd place: 14% of the prize pool
3rd place: 4.5% of the prize pool

Payout:
98.5% of the money raised with ticket sales will be paid out to the three winners.
Rest 1.5% will go to the house for maintenance and development.

AFAIK, there is no way to implement a provably fair lottery where there is a variable number of tickets sold. If anybody can come up with a system for doing so, I would be happy to implement it like I have mentioned before quite a few times. And I would offer a generous bonus for the person doing so as well.

is there anyway that the person can know what are the tickets numbers that he holds ?? if so then you can record the weekly draw using a RNG site and upload the video on youtube
sportsbet did that in one of their draws after all the players complained

[wetsuit]

gambling always have risk, if everyone can win easily in gambling, i think all casino site would go bust  

Absolutely, those who said has been scammed by a site because they could not win but unable to give valid proofs of being scammed are just players who do not understand how gambling works.
They only think that they will make some money after some loses but in fact they keep on losing again and again till they have no more funds to bet. This kind of players should blame themselves why they keep on losing.

well yeah and we should ignore people who are complaining about losing after gambling in a 5% HE site since it's expected
but what about the lottery ?? the lottery should definitely be less shady in the future cause it's the only negative thing about the site
can't they develop a system like the one in crypto-games for example ?

How is the crypto-games lottery provably fair? Their website says this is how it works:

What is this game?
This game is called lottery. You can buy lottery tickets and hope that one of your ticket numbers will be picked. The draw takes place twice per week, on Wednesday and Saturday.

How to play
Click on tab "Buy ticket" and enter number of tickets you want to buy. Each ticket costs 0.0001 BTC (10k satoshi). You can buy tickets only with Bitcoins.
Lots will be drawn each week on wednesday and saturday using random numbers generated through RandomPicker. Three winning tickets will be selected and winners will get the following prizes:
1st place: 80% of the prize pool
2nd place: 14% of the prize pool
3rd place: 4.5% of the prize pool

Payout:
98.5% of the money raised with ticket sales will be paid out to the three winners.
Rest 1.5% will go to the house for maintenance and development.

AFAIK, there is no way to implement a provably fair lottery where there is a variable number of tickets sold. If anybody can come up with a system for doing so, I would be happy to implement it like I have mentioned before quite a few times. And I would offer a generous bonus for the person doing so as well.

is there anyway that the person can know what are the tickets numbers that he holds ?? if so then you can record the weekly draw using a RNG site and upload the video on youtube
sportsbet did that in one of their draws after all the players complained

I could assign ticket numbers to all users and do a public draw. However, it still does not stop me from creating fake accounts and giving them tickets to push the odds of winning in my favour. It is possible to hash ticket numbers with a client seed, order them in ascending order and then pick winners. However, it wouldn't make the game provably fair, it would only give an appearance of being fair while it actually isn't and wouldn't doing that be more dishonest?

If enough people think that would be a more preferable approach, it is something I could do but personally I feel it is dishonest to claim something is provably fair when it really isn't. Right now, people who play the lottery know that numbers are picked server-side and that it may not be fair and they buy tickets knowing that. Giving the appearance of being fair while not really being so would give people a false sense of trust.

Also, I haven't seen many public RNG's who offer a service to handle drawing of 100 million+ tickets (which is what we usually have) so I'll need to make something myself. Also 100 million hashes would create a file of 6.4 GB (and last week we had 130 million tickets) so I am not sure how many people would actually download such a file to check the results.

[BTCevo]

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I just wondering if we can really earn4% gradually because if this is true, this will be sure profitable site ever in this bitcoin world. And I wondering again if the site already have any player that put their money there? I know their site is great site and have good reputation but we just take some precaution if any time that they can run away with this really huge money

[Kprawn]

gambling always have risk, if everyone can win easily in gambling, i think all casino site would go bust  

Absolutely, those who said has been scammed by a site because they could not win but unable to give valid proofs of being scammed are just players who do not understand how gambling works.
They only think that they will make some money after some loses but in fact they keep on losing again and again till they have no more funds to bet. This kind of players should blame themselves why they keep on losing.

well yeah and we should ignore people who are complaining about losing after gambling in a 5% HE site since it's expected
but what about the lottery ?? the lottery should definitely be less shady in the future cause it's the only negative thing about the site
can't they develop a system like the one in crypto-games for example ?

How is the crypto-games lottery provably fair? Their website says this is how it works:

What is this game?
This game is called lottery. You can buy lottery tickets and hope that one of your ticket numbers will be picked. The draw takes place twice per week, on Wednesday and Saturday.

How to play
Click on tab "Buy ticket" and enter number of tickets you want to buy. Each ticket costs 0.0001 BTC (10k satoshi). You can buy tickets only with Bitcoins.
Lots will be drawn each week on wednesday and saturday using random numbers generated through RandomPicker. Three winning tickets will be selected and winners will get the following prizes:
1st place: 80% of the prize pool
2nd place: 14% of the prize pool
3rd place: 4.5% of the prize pool

Payout:
98.5% of the money raised with ticket sales will be paid out to the three winners.
Rest 1.5% will go to the house for maintenance and development.

AFAIK, there is no way to implement a provably fair lottery where there is a variable number of tickets sold. If anybody can come up with a system for doing so, I would be happy to implement it like I have mentioned before quite a few times. And I would offer a generous bonus for the person doing so as well.

is there anyway that the person can know what are the tickets numbers that he holds ?? if so then you can record the weekly draw using a RNG site and upload the video on youtube
sportsbet did that in one of their draws after all the players complained

I could assign ticket numbers to all users and do a public draw. However, it still does not stop me from creating fake accounts and giving them tickets to push the odds of winning in my favour. It is possible to hash ticket numbers with a client seed, order them in ascending order and then pick winners. However, it wouldn't make the game provably fair, it would only give an appearance of being fair while it actually isn't and wouldn't doing that be more dishonest?

If enough people think that would be a more preferable approach, it is something I could do but personally I feel it is dishonest to claim something is provably fair when it really isn't. Right now, people who play the lottery know that numbers are picked server-side and that it may not be fair and they buy tickets knowing that. Giving the appearance of being fair while not really being so would give people a false sense of trust.

Also, I haven't seen many public RNG's who offer a service to handle drawing of 100 million+ tickets (which is what we usually have) so I'll need to make something myself. Also 100 million hashes would create a file of 6.4 GB (and last week we had 130 million tickets) so I am not sure how many people would actually download such a file to check the results.

Damn, I never really thought about the practical implication with the hashing of those tickets. The draw is usually almost instantaneous, so I

figured it was a easy and fast process with limited hashing needed. I know https://www.reddit.com/r/millionairemakers/ has some system that

shows the draw process in real time, but it takes a lot of time. 

[Myfe]

I just wondering if we can really earn4% gradually because if this is true, this will be sure profitable site ever in this bitcoin world. And I wondering again if the site already have any player that put their money there? I know their site is great site and have good reputation but we just take some precaution if any time that they can run away with this really huge money

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[SyGambler]

I could assign ticket numbers to all users and do a public draw. However, it still does not stop me from creating fake accounts and giving them tickets to push the odds of winning in my favour. It is possible to hash ticket numbers with a client seed, order them in ascending order and then pick winners. However, it wouldn't make the game provably fair, it would only give an appearance of being fair while it actually isn't and wouldn't doing that be more dishonest?

If enough people think that would be a more preferable approach, it is something I could do but personally I feel it is dishonest to claim something is provably fair when it really isn't. Right now, people who play the lottery know that numbers are picked server-side and that it may not be fair and they buy tickets knowing that. Giving the appearance of being fair while not really being so would give people a false sense of trust.

Also, I haven't seen many public RNG's who offer a service to handle drawing of 100 million+ tickets (which is what we usually have) so I'll need to make something myself. Also 100 million hashes would create a file of 6.4 GB (and last week we had 130 million tickets) so I am not sure how many people would actually download such a file to check the results.

well it seems that I was wrong , yep that would be better but it won't be a provably fair as you said so thanks for explaining that
I'm just confused , how there is no easy way to run a provably fair lottery these days  maybe the smart contracts can solve that but I was hoping for a more simple solution

[Myfe]

How there is no easy way to run a provably fair lottery these days   maybe the smart contracts can solve that but I was hoping for a more simple solution

Sy, the comment quoted below from wetsuit still applies - if you find or have ideas on a better system, let us know!

AFAIK, there is no way to implement a provably fair lottery where there is a variable number of tickets sold. If anybody can come up with a system for doing so, I would be happy to implement it like I have mentioned before quite a few times. And I would offer a generous bonus for the person doing so as well.

[Myfe]

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[karmamiu]

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[mastermold]

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[DuddlyDoRight]

Hey "newbies" before you invest time or money in the betting have one of these positive reviewers tell you how they've won so much and keep asking them questions till you're profiting. Maybe just ask them to see a profit spread?

Look at my old posts in this thread to see how much you'll make on the free part if you do it 24/7.

[Myfe]

Hey "newbies" before you invest time or money in the betting have one of these positive reviewers tell you how they've won so much and keep asking them questions till you're profiting. Maybe just ask them to see a profit spread?

Look at my old posts in this thread to see how much you'll make on the free part if you do it 24/7.

And read through 2,300 posts? I don't think anyone is going to do that.

Write us a summary here, in one post, a clinic of sorts. Tell us how we can beat the bank!

[Kprawn]

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Make sure you cash in on the 3x Rewards Points weekend offers too!

I know, I know...pics or it didn't happen. Pics below!

https://i.imgur.com/pWlZSpj.png
https://i.imgur.com/c12rxNR.png

Ah, so this operation is operating from the UK, because I see the currency in the details are all in British Pound. Good to know Freebitco.in is

not operated from some obscure country with a shady history.  .... I see both items were redeemed by the same person in the USA, which is

a bit strange. 

[Myfe]

Clever guy, this Kprawn, clever indeed.

I can confirm that the redemption did originate from the same account/person, therefore the same shipping location.

Big News from FreeBitco.in - we have our first Reward Points redemption for an iPhone AND a set of Beats by Dre headphones.

Ah, so this operation is operating from the UK, because I see the currency in the details are all in British Pound. Good to know Freebitco.in is

not operated from some obscure country with a shady history.  .... I see both items were redeemed by the same person in the USA, which is

a bit strange. 

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[Mahdirakib]

Hey "newbies" before you invest time or money in the betting have one of these positive reviewers tell you how they've won so much and keep asking them questions till you're profiting. Maybe just ask them to see a profit spread?

Look at my old posts in this thread to see how much you'll make on the free part if you do it 24/7.

I have seen it.

Yeeeaaaaahhhhh...

Numbers for every hour of every day of December 2016.. http://pastebin.com/bWWXNH3J

I have months and months worth. The only change was up till 80,000 satoshi or somewhere where there was higher class random numbers..

I'll save you all the math.. $1.45 a month before BTC network fees, KWH, hardware wear, the occupied time is deducted.. Probably around -$1,500 to -$9,000 unless you bot or do it an hour or two a day where it's still way way way way in the negative..

But I have some question that "How you played 23 free hourly role  everyday?"
Didn't you sleep or did other work during this time?

[wetsuit]

Hey "newbies" before you invest time or money in the betting have one of these positive reviewers tell you how they've won so much and keep asking them questions till you're profiting. Maybe just ask them to see a profit spread?

Look at my old posts in this thread to see how much you'll make on the free part if you do it 24/7.

I have seen it.

Yeeeaaaaahhhhh...

Numbers for every hour of every day of December 2016.. http://pastebin.com/bWWXNH3J

I have months and months worth. The only change was up till 80,000 satoshi or somewhere where there was higher class random numbers..

I'll save you all the math.. $1.45 a month before BTC network fees, KWH, hardware wear, the occupied time is deducted.. Probably around -$1,500 to -$9,000 unless you bot or do it an hour or two a day where it's still way way way way in the negative..

But I have some question that "How you played 23 free hourly role  everyday?"
Didn't you sleep or did other work during this time?

lol, those are obviously fake. All numbers in 7-8 thousands? If they had seeds it would be remotely believable but anyone can make up a list of timestamps and numbers. A smarter person would atleast use a wider range to generate the random numbers.