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June 15, 2017, 04:13:13 PM
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This is a good question and something we've been pondering. What thoughts do you all have?

Specifically, what elements of the current user interface are confusing, awkward, redundant, or time consuming?

Please PM me!

We'd love to get your feedback!

Why dont they change site layout for better interface?

Is it so important thing to do? Their layout is good already, no need to be changed. Just curious, what do you think would be a better interface for freebitcoin? Could you imagine it on a picture?

Give it some nice graphics or background with a bit more colour. For example : A gambling theme for the Multiply BTC tab and a Lottery theme

for the Lottery tab. It should not be too busy to reduce bandwidth requirements. The Free BTC page is also very boring.. people should be pulled

to that tab. Everything looks very domestic and clean.... give it a bit of swank.  Wink

https://www.shutterstock.com/search/gambling   I like the red dice & the gambling on the fish hook... it is nice and clean.  Grin



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June 15, 2017, 06:13:30 PM
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I know this is probably the wrong thread, but are you guys still developing freedoge.co.in? Or is it being left as it is as a faucet? I wouldn't mind having some of the features of freebitco.in implemented into freedoge.co.in, as I do still collect from there on an hourly basis.
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June 15, 2017, 06:53:30 PM
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I know this is probably the wrong thread, but are you guys still developing freedoge.co.in? Or is it being left as it is as a faucet? I wouldn't mind having some of the features of freebitco.in implemented into freedoge.co.in, as I do still collect from there on an hourly basis.
freedoge.co.in working but now bonus is very low just because of this many users not checking this I agree with you now time to bring some change here also admin please check and work on this also for rising bonus because now its very low

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June 15, 2017, 09:12:02 PM
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well, hello everybody from bitcointalk,

i bumped into this forum searching for information about the new free-roll bonus. I saw wetsuits post asking about a provably fair lottery.

I would love to make the lottery provably fair but unfortunately there is no method of doing so as far as I know. Hence, I have done the next best thing which is to offer users a chance to opt out of the lottery and receive reward points instead if they feel the lottery is rigged. You can do this from the PROFILE page.

I willl offer 1 BTC to anybody who can provide me with a way to make the lottery provably fair in issuing tickets and picking out winners. The system described should be able to handle hundreds of millions of tickets and verification for users should be fairly easy and straightforward. You can post your ideas here and I'll go through them and reward the idea that we use.

Both the free roll and the dice game are provably fair and the website will be going completely ad-free as of today.

first of all, i have to say that i liked edge77's idea about converting ticket counts to ticket-windows.

You can design a system something like this:
Let's say, Person A bought 5,000 tickets, Person B bought 9,000 tickets, Person C bought 50,000 and Person D bought 1,17,000 tickets

User A : 5,000 tickets
User B : 9,000 tickets
User C : 50,000 tickets
User D : 1,17,000 tickets

Combined, total tickets : 1,81,000
Generate a random number between 0 and 1,81,000 [note by Zhor: this should be 180,999]

Set a windows like below :

0-5,000--- User A wins [note: again, 0-4999]
5,000-14,000--- User B wins [note: 5000 - 13,999. you get the point.]
9,000-64,000--- User C wins
64,000-1,81,000 ---User D wins // User D with most tickets has the largest window
...

the problem with that system is, that it is *not* provably fair, even though the "random number" chosen to pick the winner could be provably fair picked.
In the example above, a user could say, that the order of the windows (first user A, then B) has been manipulated so that the "right" user wins.
This is why i have come up with an adaption to get this system fully provable.

The idea is, we would need "public" knowledge about the exact amount of tickets each user had at the end of the lottery and about the order of the "ticket-windows".
If we simply publish the order of windows at the beginning of the lottery and add the number of tickets of each user at the end of the lottery-period, everything would be fine.
But i assume that it is no good idea to publish all these information, since anybody could find out a lot of interesting things, like how many users have below 1000 tickets, who are the top 10 of players with the most tickets and much more.
Imagine you knew the exact amount of tickets of all users for each lottery. you can even track the activity of every user.
Thats why we are going to hash these information and only publish the hashes.
To prove that the order of ticket-windows has not been altered after the drawing, we will create a "client(s)-seed" out of hashes of 3-tupels (UserID:FirstTicketNumber:TicketCount) of EVERY user. Lets have a look at the steps of the whole system:


1. publish hashed serverseed at the beginning of lottery-period [and nonce]
2. wait for the ending of lottery period
3. create ticket windows for every user (á la edge77)
4. send 3-tupel and hashed 3-tupel to every user (UserID:FirstTicketNumber:TicketCount)
5. publish all hashed 3-tupels
6. condense (hash again) all hashed 3-tupels into client-seed (to get an appropriate length) [and publish client-seed]
7. use server-seed and client seed to pick a provably fair random number. look up matching ticket-window and user (who wins!)
8. publish server-seed

this is only for one tier of lottery winners. to adapt this for 10 winners, we should probably add a nonce to the client- and server-seeds and count this up as we roll (at least) 9 more numbers. If we roll a user who already has won a bigger price, just reroll with nonce+1 again.


using this system, we can prove to any user:

a) that the server-seed has been chosen at the beginning of the lottery-period. (same as in free roll and multiply roll)
b) that his position in the list of ticket windows has been picked *before* choosing the winning number.

to prove b) the user has received his own 3-tupel of his UserID, the number of his first Ticket (in the example of edge77 this would be 0 for User A, 5000 for user B, 9000 for User C and 64 000 for User D), and the amount of his tickets.
he can now hash this 3-tupel by himself and search for that hash in the public list of all 3-tupel-hashes (see step 5!).
for example his hash could look like this: 344fbaff44ddcd7ca5d65b0324f4c40d01af30a5e7fabd4a18d69f80e4fa521f
now the list of all these 3-tupel hashes could look like this: ...:35fe8b392f1b2dfbc4745e52bba71750452f7a911e8d4cb31dd9ade427bf905b:344fbaff44ddcd7ca5d65b0324f4c40d01af30a5e7fabd4a18d69f80e4fa521f:347bb84f4d5260e8e1e1b759834df0095ee6e2225c31fdc8c5b060a637f36a16:...
and that list has been hashed to the final (public) clients-seed: ccb686936c6d0f33b97bc7d2b18db2f639381387c3ec813a11981b39d139d48b
he should find HIS has in the list of 3-tupels hashes and he should be able to hash the list of 3-tupel hashes into the client-seed.
that will verify that his position and amount of tickets were used to create the winning-number.

however if you want to verify that USER XYZ indeed won the first price, you only need to publish his 3-tupel (UserID:FirstTicketNumber:TicketCount).
anybody can then verify that this user indeed had the ticket-window that the winning number fell into, by finding his hash in the list of all 3-tupel-hashes.

for 2-nd price or 3rd price everybody knows that the nonce will be altered (+1 for 2nd price, +2 for third price and so on...)



so what do you guys think? is this too complicated? does it have security flaws? is it too much of edge77's idea? or is it not "convincing" enough?
also i humbly ask for your forgiveness if you find any spelling or grammar mistakes, since i am not a native english speaker.


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June 15, 2017, 09:55:19 PM
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Still didnt notice answer on : how much need to bet or spend there to get that bonus?
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June 15, 2017, 11:44:26 PM
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Why dont they change site layout for better interface?
And what is wrong with their interface? Website works perfectly on all devices, it's not full of ads, their design is clear and simple. I don't know what they have to change.
I know this is probably the wrong thread, but are you guys still developing freedoge.co.in? Or is it being left as it is as a faucet? I wouldn't mind having some of the features of freebitco.in implemented into freedoge.co.in, as I do still collect from there on an hourly basis.
Yeah, Freedoge.co.in don't get any updates and improvements. I remember that some time ago Wetsuit said that doge faucet isn't very popular and it's not worth to implement various updates, so they more focus on bitcoin faucet.

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Why dont they change site layout for better interface?
And what is wrong with their interface? Website works perfectly on all devices, it's not full of ads, their design is clear and simple. I don't know what they have to change.
I know this is probably the wrong thread, but are you guys still developing freedoge.co.in? Or is it being left as it is as a faucet? I wouldn't mind having some of the features of freebitco.in implemented into freedoge.co.in, as I do still collect from there on an hourly basis.
Yeah, Freedoge.co.in don't get any updates and improvements. I remember that some time ago Wetsuit said that doge faucet isn't very popular and it's not worth to implement various updates, so they more focus on bitcoin faucet.

Do you think that they could convert that faucet into something like a DASH or ETH faucet (Obviously not the same domain name, but same site structure)? Or would BTC still outperform everything else and make it not worth the time needed to develop and support it?
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June 16, 2017, 03:49:20 AM
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We're approaching a MAMMOTH Rewards Points bonus weekend >>>>> 4x Rewards Points starts in less than 24 hours!

For the entire weekend, we'll pay you 8 Rewards Points for a free roll, 4 Rewards Points for a multiply roll, and 4 Rewards Points for a referral roll!

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I just noticed that freebitco.in does offer a way to increase your free BTC rewards by up to a higher amount if the user play their multiply BTC dice or buy the site lottery tickets, I do try to roll quite a number of rolls but I doesn't see my free BTC payout amount increasing, is there a certain amount we must wager before the rewards get increase in the free roll?

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June 16, 2017, 06:57:06 AM
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I just noticed that freebitco.in does offer a way to increase your free BTC rewards by up to a higher amount if the user play their multiply BTC dice or buy the site lottery tickets, I do try to roll quite a number of rolls but I doesn't see my free BTC payout amount increasing, is there a certain amount we must wager before the rewards get increase in the free roll?

i believe there are 2 threshholds you need to surpass in order to increase the bonus.
if you pass the first, you get half the bonus (see http://puu.sh/wlufO/b1da593a65.png )
then there is another one, if you pass that, you get the full bonus. no steps in between. I do not know, how much you have to wager / how many tickets you have to buy. Maybe someone could test this?

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i believe there are 2 threshholds you need to surpass in order to increase the bonus.
if you pass the first, you get half the bonus (see http://puu.sh/wlufO/b1da593a65.png )
then there is another one, if you pass that, you get the full bonus. no steps in between. I do not know, how much you have to wager / how many tickets you have to buy. Maybe someone could test this?


so my bonus just changed to the full bonus http://puu.sh/wlvpl/bca7c1d6e4.png. I guess wetsuit is constantly changing the system, trying to find what's best.

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I just noticed that freebitco.in does offer a way to increase your free BTC rewards by up to a higher amount if the user play their multiply BTC dice or buy the site lottery tickets, I do try to roll quite a number of rolls but I doesn't see my free BTC payout amount increasing, is there a certain amount we must wager before the rewards get increase in the free roll?

i believe there are 2 threshholds you need to surpass in order to increase the bonus.
if you pass the first, you get half the bonus (see )
then there is another one, if you pass that, you get the full bonus. no steps in between. I do not know, how much you have to wager / how many tickets you have to buy. Maybe someone could test this?


I am still not able to understand do you mean that what amount of bonus is their we should play according to it multiply btc or buy lottery tickets or what should i do, as i have played double the bonus amount mentioned but my bonus btc did not changed














 

 

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June 16, 2017, 08:20:49 AM
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so i mean:

say there is a number x (lets set this to 1 million, but i dont know the exact number, im just guessing)
if you bet 1 million satoshis in the multiply game, freebitco wins 5% (house edge) ON AVERAGE. That would be 50,000 satoshis loss for you.
from those 50,000 satoshis they could give you back maybe 5,000 (again, just guessing) through this bonus. so they would activate your bonus until you have collected 5,000 satoshis. then your bonus would drop, until you play the multiply game again.

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I just noticed that freebitco.in does offer a way to increase your free BTC rewards by up to a higher amount if the user play their multiply BTC dice or buy the site lottery tickets, I do try to roll quite a number of rolls but I doesn't see my free BTC payout amount increasing, is there a certain amount we must wager before the rewards get increase in the free roll?

i believe there are 2 threshholds you need to surpass in order to increase the bonus.
if you pass the first, you get half the bonus (see )
then there is another one, if you pass that, you get the full bonus. no steps in between. I do not know, how much you have to wager / how many tickets you have to buy. Maybe someone could test this?


I am still not able to understand do you mean that what amount of bonus is their we should play according to it multiply btc or buy lottery tickets or what should i do, as i have played double the bonus amount mentioned but my bonus btc did not changed
I am also waiting for more information from Admin or site customer service person to explain about this because its not clear on site how is this going to work hope this will do this in near future its very good and interesting if they are going to improve this claim

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June 16, 2017, 04:52:04 PM
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New progress report showing above the bonus, although not changing for me even after wagering.

http://imgur.com/a/QzItu
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New progress report showing above the bonus, although not changing for me even after wagering.

http://imgur.com/a/QzItu


Yes, Now there are showing the progress and it's also changing while I am playing multiply game. That's so interesting. But I can't understand what will happened next. Because he(wetsuit) is changing this system of bonus every short time.

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June 16, 2017, 06:36:53 PM
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The bonus now shows how close you are to achieving your next bonus increment. Please note that the bonuses are not fixed and bound to change until we make an official announcement about it. Right now the priority is to gauge how much bonus can be given and to who.

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The bonus now shows how close you are to achieving your next bonus increment. Please note that the bonuses are not fixed and bound to change until we make an official announcement about it. Right now the priority is to gauge how much bonus can be given and to who.

So the site mentioned that buying lottery tickets also helps to achieve a higher bonus, but how does the number of lottery tickets bought factor into the percentage, as the percentage also represents the wagered amount if I am not mistaken.
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June 16, 2017, 07:34:43 PM
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The bonus now shows how close you are to achieving your next bonus increment. Please note that the bonuses are not fixed and bound to change until we make an official announcement about it. Right now the priority is to gauge how much bonus can be given and to who.

So the site mentioned that buying lottery tickets also helps to achieve a higher bonus, but how does the number of lottery tickets bought factor into the percentage, as the percentage also represents the wagered amount if I am not mistaken.
Its all added up to make up for the requirements. I can't reveal the exact way it is calculated though to prevent people from gaming the system.

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June 16, 2017, 08:10:29 PM
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The bonus now shows how close you are to achieving your next bonus increment. Please note that the bonuses are not fixed and bound to change until we make an official announcement about it. Right now the priority is to gauge how much bonus can be given and to who.

So the site mentioned that buying lottery tickets also helps to achieve a higher bonus, but how does the number of lottery tickets bought factor into the percentage, as the percentage also represents the wagered amount if I am not mistaken.
Its all added up to make up for the requirements. I can't reveal the exact way it is calculated though to prevent people from gaming the system.

Ok, also it doesn't seem right that with my 1000% FREE BTC bonus activated, I get more than I would for the second tier of 9886-9985. Once I do roll a number in the second tier, I am rewarded less for my luck, instead of more.

Is there anything you can do about this?

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