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June 17, 2017, 01:30:24 PM
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Play MULTIPLY BTC or buy lottery tickets to increase your FREE BTC rewards by up to +0.00001501 BTC
28.83% achieved towards the next +0.00000079 BTC bonus!


How much tickets i have to buy to receive 1500 satoshi bonus?
Or better, how much i have to wager for this?

Btw thanks for removing recaptcha, it makes things much easier!

The answer to your question is in the MULTIPLY BTC section on the site:

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Get 1 free lottery ticket and 4 reward points for every 0.00001500 BTC that you wager!

I also want to thank for removing recaptcha because sometimes it would have taken me several times of trying to solve it before I had a chance to roll.

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June 17, 2017, 04:25:43 PM
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Marlboroza is referring to the FREE BTC minimum bonus (faucet), and the requirements to increase that, not how to get lottery tickets.
Play MULTIPLY BTC or buy lottery tickets to increase your FREE BTC rewards by up to +0.00001501 BTC
28.83% achieved towards the next +0.00000079 BTC bonus!


How much tickets i have to buy to receive 1500 satoshi bonus?
Or better, how much i have to wager for this?

Btw thanks for removing recaptcha, it makes things much easier!

The answer to your question is in the MULTIPLY BTC section on the site:

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Get 1 free lottery ticket and 4 reward points for every 0.00001500 BTC that you wager!

I also want to thank for removing recaptcha because sometimes it would have taken me several times of trying to solve it before I had a chance to roll.


Marlboroza, wetsuit has said that there will be an official announcement in the future which explains all that, he is still crunching the numbers on how much to give and to who right now.
Play MULTIPLY BTC or buy lottery tickets to increase your FREE BTC rewards by up to +0.00001501 BTC
28.83% achieved towards the next +0.00000079 BTC bonus!


How much tickets i have to buy to receive 1500 satoshi bonus?
Or better, how much i have to wager for this?

Btw thanks for removing recaptcha, it makes things much easier!
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Last edit: June 18, 2017, 02:02:37 AM by Food2
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***The following is my updated algorithm for determining the lottery winners***



Ok, so this uses your already provably fair method for determining rolls.
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At the start of the round, have the server create a seed, and display that seed hashed to the public on the lottery page. At the end of the round, automatically post an excel spreadsheet to Dropbox (I believe they have an API) showing the acquired tickets for the round and who they belong to (like this: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/16FCMiXgVXI9unoFMm2qgCoK7gGA5BaZqth2BCoddT7k/edit?usp=sharing). Posting the file to Dropbox leaves an upload timestamp created by a server INDEPENDENT of freebitco.in, meaning the file cannot be tampered with or it would be evident in the timestamp.

Then, take the next bitcoin block to be generated after the file was posted, and use its hash as a server seed. The nonce is the lottery round number, increasing by 0.1 for each iteration (1st, 2nd, 3rd, etc...). Create a roll number using these three inputs.

Define q by multiplying 10 to the power of the digit count of the total number of tickets and adding the difference between number of digits in the highest possible roll number, and the actual amount of digits in the roll number in zeros - This accounts for low rolls (q = 10digitCount + (extraZerosAmount = totalPossibleDigits - actualDigitAmount)). Define t by multiplying the roll number by q (t = roll# x q).  Define n by taking t and performing a modulo operation with the round's ticket count, and adding one (n = (t%tktcount) + 1). And there you have it, the winning ticket is the nth ticket acquired in the round.

Users can verify the winners after the round by doing the roll formula and checking it against the spreadsheet posted on Dropbox, with the INDEPENDENT upload timestamp by Dropbox servers ensuring that the spreadsheet was not tampered with after the block was generated and roll formula completed.


Let me know if you have any questions, or if I missed anything.

Jake

Edit: This may seem very complicated and jumbled and I apologise in advance, but in my honest opinion this covers every front possible in order to achieve the complete provably fairness of the lottery, and give all users confidence in doing so.  If this seems complicated and you don't understand, ask me for an example and I will post one.
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June 18, 2017, 06:07:08 AM
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Tried it out, got a very small amount of Bitcoin.  Not sure why people are posting their addressed here.

It's still just a faucet. If you post your address you will be creditted .0005 (after 10 free rolls).

Exactly. Thank you Smiley
Also you have a chance to win more than the normal amount of Bitcoins faucets usually give. As the ad revenue stabilizes, I will probably be able to increase the odds of users winning higher amounts.

Bonus activated for everyone who posted.

Wow! Is this legit? I will give a try.
Here's mine.
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Thanks a lot!

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June 18, 2017, 06:16:47 AM
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***The following is my updated algorithm for determining the lottery winners***



Ok, so this uses your already provably fair method for determining rolls.
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                    ~snip~              

Just forget about the provably fair method for lottery.
wetsuit can make false server seed/server hash and other documents for choosing the lottery winner and he can post it publicly. But you have nothing to do here. He can manage everything and if you want to check you found it right.

I'm not raising question about wetsuit honesty.

There is only one way to prove the lottery system is not false. And that is if the lottery winner share their winning with proof here. People may also call it false.

However recently someone share his lottery winning of first prize here. And you can found some more lottery winner if you check all the replies on wetsuit post's. I have found some lottery winner here and posted about them on this thread.
Check here

1. So far I never see anyone posted the proofs on this forum and I don't know the winners. How can I ask them to post the proof? Do you provide the winners contact details for us to ask the proofs?

2. I will wait for your details to be posted on this thread to check. I'm interested in lottery winner choosing process not in the hi-low game. Because that game is fair and never said that it is not fair but the issue is high house edge.

3. I have mentioned in my earlier post that we can buy tickets with free money to try our luck.

I think you don't know about the thread of big wins of freebitco.in. There are a lot of user posted and posting their big win's with proof(screenshot and winning seeds). You are asking about the lottery system. It is properly depends on your luck.     Recently (2 weeks ago) one Sr.member(tomos81) told about his lottery win on the thread. He got the 7th place. You can also find one more winner there. He got the third price a long time ago. A few days ago one legendary(BitcoinBarrel) member of this forum said that he also won the lottery in past.  He got second place and the prize was 1.4 btc. He told about his win on micro earning thread. You can check it here(2nd price winner)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=319540.msg19280603#msg19280603

To check the big win's see here( You can found 3 200$ winner post on this thread also)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1850855.0

To check the other 2 user lottery winning post(7th and 3rd price winner)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1850855.140

I think there are a lot of silent lottery winner on this forum who doesn't know about these thread or not willing to share their wins. Freebitco.in is the legendary faucet of bitcoin world. So I don't think they do something wrong/false proof on their site. There is only one problem with the high house edge(5%) of their hi-lo game.

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June 18, 2017, 08:19:44 AM
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Food2, but how does your algorithm prevent site owners from creating new accounts credited with millions of tickets?
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June 18, 2017, 08:46:12 AM
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***The following is my updated algorithm for determining the lottery winners***



Ok, so this uses your already provably fair method for determining rolls.
----------------------------------------------------

                    ~snip~              

Just forget about the provably fair method for lottery.
wetsuit can make false server seed/server hash and other documents for choosing the lottery winner and he can post it publicly. But you have nothing to do here. He can manage everything and if you want to check you found it right.

I'm not raising question about wetsuit honesty.

There is only one way to prove the lottery system is not false. And that is if the lottery winner share their winning with proof here. People may also call it false.

However recently someone share his lottery winning of first prize here. And you can found some more lottery winner if you check all the replies on wetsuit post's. I have found some lottery winner here and posted about them on this thread.
Check here

1. So far I never see anyone posted the proofs on this forum and I don't know the winners. How can I ask them to post the proof? Do you provide the winners contact details for us to ask the proofs?

2. I will wait for your details to be posted on this thread to check. I'm interested in lottery winner choosing process not in the hi-low game. Because that game is fair and never said that it is not fair but the issue is high house edge.

3. I have mentioned in my earlier post that we can buy tickets with free money to try our luck.

I think you don't know about the thread of big wins of freebitco.in. There are a lot of user posted and posting their big win's with proof(screenshot and winning seeds). You are asking about the lottery system. It is properly depends on your luck.     Recently (2 weeks ago) one Sr.member(tomos81) told about his lottery win on the thread. He got the 7th place. You can also find one more winner there. He got the third price a long time ago. A few days ago one legendary(BitcoinBarrel) member of this forum said that he also won the lottery in past.  He got second place and the prize was 1.4 btc. He told about his win on micro earning thread. You can check it here(2nd price winner)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=319540.msg19280603#msg19280603

To check the big win's see here( You can found 3 200$ winner post on this thread also)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1850855.0

To check the other 2 user lottery winning post(7th and 3rd price winner)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1850855.140

I think there are a lot of silent lottery winner on this forum who doesn't know about these thread or not willing to share their wins. Freebitco.in is the legendary faucet of bitcoin world. So I don't think they do something wrong/false proof on their site. There is only one problem with the high house edge(5%) of their hi-lo game.

How can they prove if that address even no once? May be some of them already win this but no one ever hit the highest one. Do not know if that is real address or not but it seems that every week they always posted new address with huge amount there. Just wondering if they really have this provably fair system or not on their system. But if i can say if there is no winner better do not need to put any address there so we know only active person there can win some cash
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June 18, 2017, 09:58:17 AM
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Marlboroza is referring to the FREE BTC minimum bonus (faucet), and the requirements to increase that, not how to get lottery tickets.

Play MULTIPLY BTC or buy lottery tickets to increase your FREE BTC rewards by up to +0.00001501 BTC
28.83% achieved towards the next +0.00000079 BTC bonus!


How much tickets i have to buy to receive 1500 satoshi bonus?
Or better, how much i have to wager for this?

Btw thanks for removing recaptcha, it makes things much easier!

The answer to your question is in the MULTIPLY BTC section on the site:

Quote
Get 1 free lottery ticket and 4 reward points for every 0.00001500 BTC that you wager!

I also want to thank for removing recaptcha because sometimes it would have taken me several times of trying to solve it before I had a chance to roll.

~

But you can increase your FREE BTC rewards with the reward points. My reply wasn't about how to get lottery tickets.

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Get 1 free lottery ticket and 4 reward points for every 0.00001500 BTC that you wager!

For example redeeming your reward points(RP) you can increase your minimum free FREE BTC reward by 1000% in the next 24 hours after redemption paying 3,200 RP for that.

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June 18, 2017, 11:21:35 AM
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Food2, but how does your algorithm prevent site owners from creating new accounts credited with millions of tickets?

With my algorithm, site owners cannot know the outcome of the roll, so it is still technically fair. HOWEVER, common sense can prevent the site owners from creating new accounts. If all of the sudden new users (will know they are new by high id number) are obtaining a crap ton of tickets in a matter of seconds (shown in order in the acquisition chart I linked), it's pretty obvious that site owners are rigging it.

Other than that, imho it's impossible to know for sure whether not the site admins are crediting accounts with lottery tickets unless you are the site admin, lol.
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June 18, 2017, 11:28:07 AM
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Food2, sounds logical. I hope you will get the promised 1 BTC and questions of type "is the lottery fair?" will stop popping up every 20 minutes Smiley
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June 18, 2017, 11:44:31 AM
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Marlboroza is referring to the FREE BTC minimum bonus (faucet), and the requirements to increase that, not how to get lottery tickets.

Play MULTIPLY BTC or buy lottery tickets to increase your FREE BTC rewards by up to +0.00001501 BTC
28.83% achieved towards the next +0.00000079 BTC bonus!


How much tickets i have to buy to receive 1500 satoshi bonus?
Or better, how much i have to wager for this?

Btw thanks for removing recaptcha, it makes things much easier!

The answer to your question is in the MULTIPLY BTC section on the site:

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Get 1 free lottery ticket and 4 reward points for every 0.00001500 BTC that you wager!

I also want to thank for removing recaptcha because sometimes it would have taken me several times of trying to solve it before I had a chance to roll.

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But you can increase your FREE BTC rewards with the reward points. My reply wasn't about how to get lottery tickets.

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Get 1 free lottery ticket and 4 reward points for every 0.00001500 BTC that you wager!

For example redeeming your reward points(RP) you can increase your minimum free FREE BTC reward by 1000% in the next 24 hours after redemption paying 3,200 RP for that.

Ah, my bad, I thought you were talking about something else.
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June 18, 2017, 01:19:05 PM
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~snip~
But you can increase your FREE BTC rewards with the reward points. My reply wasn't about how to get lottery tickets.
Oh, silly me, i thought i can get +1500 satoshi every hour as a reward for wagering and/or buying tickets without using reward points.
I should wear glasses.  Embarrassed
But what is this 79 satoshi bonus and 28.83% achieved?

~blah~
Please read how provably fair system works  Roll Eyes

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June 18, 2017, 03:51:28 PM
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Such a great site, is one of the rare faucets that doesn't have so many intrusive ads that you'd need to bleach your eyes to unsee.
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June 18, 2017, 04:40:57 PM
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~snip~
But you can increase your FREE BTC rewards with the reward points. My reply wasn't about how to get lottery tickets.
Oh, silly me, i thought i can get +1500 satoshi every hour as a reward for wagering and/or buying tickets without using reward points.
I should wear glasses.  Embarrassed
But what is this 79 satoshi bonus and 28.83% achieved?

~blah~
Please read how provably fair system works  Roll Eyes

About 2 to 3 years ago 1000+ Satoshi per hour was the average pay out for this faucet. Even then people complained about the pay out being too

little.

Examples of some of my withdrawals :
2014-11-06 12:49:29 ------->  0.00300000 BTC

2015-06-14 04:52:09 ------->  0.00427200 BTC

2015-07-19 02:56:08 ------->  0.00061509 BTC

These was paid out on a weekly basis and has some value now. So the 100 some odd Satoshi you earn per free roll now, might have some value

in the future too.  Grin

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June 18, 2017, 11:44:09 PM
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How long freebitco.in give a high amount of Satoshi? Because if it is continue for a long time maybe the freebitco.in was declared of bankruptcy. Due to some users were make it faucets instead of gambling site.
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How long freebitco.in give a high amount of Satoshi? Because if it is continue for a long time maybe the freebitco.in was declared of bankruptcy. Due to some users were make it faucets instead of gambling site.

Haha, sir/miss, I believe you misunderstand the point of freebitco.in. The main purpose of freebitco.in IS to be a faucet. It was created with that purpose and continues to be developed with that purpose. Freebitco.in also includes a gambling feature (among other things), but I can assure you that wetsuit has calculated how much to give on the faucet in order to remain profitable while doing so. I highly doubt they will be going bankrupt anytime soon.
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How long freebitco.in give a high amount of Satoshi? Because if it is continue for a long time maybe the freebitco.in was declared of bankruptcy. Due to some users were make it faucets instead of gambling site.

Haha, sir/miss, I believe you misunderstand the point of freebitco.in. The main purpose of freebitco.in IS to be a faucet. It was created with that purpose and continues to be developed with that purpose. Freebitco.in also includes a gambling feature (among other things), but I can assure you that wetsuit has calculated how much to give on the faucet in order to remain profitable while doing so. I highly doubt they will be going bankrupt anytime soon.

nope I think you misunderstood the point of freebitco.in,sir
it is a business that brings money to the owner,so if it is a faucet or a dice site or a space invasion early warning system
it should be profitable to be maintained and developped,freebitcoin as a faucet only has outlived its purpose
there are only that many people around the globe that haven't heard or registered at freebitcoin,it is not profitable to run it is a standard faucet monetised with ads only
so the owner decided to introduce different sources of income for his site: hi/low game,lottery etc. and it is the right thing to do
if he decides that the faucet is no longer needed and is dragging him down,he will dispose of it mercilessly

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June 19, 2017, 01:14:04 AM
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How long freebitco.in give a high amount of Satoshi? Because if it is continue for a long time maybe the freebitco.in was declared of bankruptcy. Due to some users were make it faucets instead of gambling site.

Haha, sir/miss, I believe you misunderstand the point of freebitco.in. The main purpose of freebitco.in IS to be a faucet. It was created with that purpose and continues to be developed with that purpose. Freebitco.in also includes a gambling feature (among other things), but I can assure you that wetsuit has calculated how much to give on the faucet in order to remain profitable while doing so. I highly doubt they will be going bankrupt anytime soon.

nope I think you misunderstood the point of freebitco.in,sir
it is a business that brings money to the owner,so if it is a faucet or a dice site or a space invasion early warning system
it should be profitable to be maintained and developped,freebitcoin as a faucet only has outlived its purpose
there are only that many people around the globe that haven't heard or registered at freebitcoin,it is not profitable to run it is a standard faucet monetised with ads only
so the owner decided to introduce different sources of income for his site: hi/low game,lottery etc. and it is the right thing to do
if he decides that the faucet is no longer needed and is dragging him down,he will dispose of it mercilessly

Haha, let's agree to disagree Smiley

To my point though, wetsuit (site admin) has previously stated that he is still calculating the amount of extra BTC on the faucet that can be given while still remaining profitable, meaning that contrary to chineseprancing's remarks, I do not feel that freebitco.in will go bankrupt due to increased faucet claims. Freebitco.in makes a killing from the 5% house edge on their hi-lo game, so if they wanted to kill the faucet, they could've and would've done it long ago... There is a reason they keep it running Smiley
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June 19, 2017, 01:32:59 AM
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How long freebitco.in give a high amount of Satoshi? Because if it is continue for a long time maybe the freebitco.in was declared of bankruptcy. Due to some users were make it faucets instead of gambling site.

Haha, sir/miss, I believe you misunderstand the point of freebitco.in. The main purpose of freebitco.in IS to be a faucet. It was created with that purpose and continues to be developed with that purpose. Freebitco.in also includes a gambling feature (among other things), but I can assure you that wetsuit has calculated how much to give on the faucet in order to remain profitable while doing so. I highly doubt they will be going bankrupt anytime soon.

nope I think you misunderstood the point of freebitco.in,sir
it is a business that brings money to the owner,so if it is a faucet or a dice site or a space invasion early warning system
it should be profitable to be maintained and developped,freebitcoin as a faucet only has outlived its purpose
there are only that many people around the globe that haven't heard or registered at freebitcoin,it is not profitable to run it is a standard faucet monetised with ads only
so the owner decided to introduce different sources of income for his site: hi/low game,lottery etc. and it is the right thing to do
if he decides that the faucet is no longer needed and is dragging him down,he will dispose of it mercilessly

Haha, let's agree to disagree Smiley

To my point though, wetsuit (site admin) has previously stated that he is still calculating the amount of extra BTC on the faucet that can be given while still remaining profitable, meaning that contrary to chineseprancing's remarks, I do not feel that freebitco.in will go bankrupt due to increased faucet claims. Freebitco.in makes a killing from the 5% house edge on their hi-lo game, so if they wanted to kill the faucet, they could've and would've done it long ago... There is a reason they keep it running Smiley

If I'm not wrong most of the faucet users never withdraw money because either they end up losing money in hi-low game or wasting money in a lottery system. Because as you said with 5% house edge and with that much small amount no one can win money from their hi-low game. And in a lottery system, no one knows how they are picking the winner and mostly they may pick the one which they want for the first price and smaller ones may be given to other members. Since they don't have a system to prove they are honest so we can assume these things for now. So they are always in a profit but only people are either wasting their time or money.
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