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Author Topic: FreeBitco.in-$200 FreeBTC⭐Win Lambo🔥0.2BTC DailyJackpot🏆$32,500 Wager Contest  (Read 512419 times)
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June 15, 2017, 01:32:07 AM
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I would like share my simple idea to provably fair lottery in freebitco.in

sorry for my bad english

here is my idea :

At the beginning of the week, the server creates 3 special parameters to determine the lottery winner, ie the seed server, client seed and nonce.
Unlike the client seed on the roll, client seeds here can not be changed. Nonce is the number of tickets gained by all users.
Derver determines the number that will be used to determine the winner of the lottery (eg first prize for those who get the number 10000, second prize for number 9999, third prize for number 8888 and so on)
Suppose at the end of the week, 200,000,000 tickets collected means the server will determine the winner based on nonce 1 up to 200,000,000. The order of nonce based on the time the user gets the ticket for the lottery (either buy, get from referrals or wagered)
If there is more than 1 winner for the first prize (for example there are 10 users who managed to get the number 10000) then the determination of the winner based on the most nonce / ticket who managed to get the number 10000.
At the end of the week at the time of the winner announcement, the server will include a lottery id where the user can verify each winner by including the seed server, client seed and nonce
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June 15, 2017, 05:44:56 AM
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how to active bonus all reward?
I played Multiply an bought lottety ticket but dont active bonus
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June 15, 2017, 08:30:18 AM
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is the lottery legit here ?

or any proof that the lottery really exist ?
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June 15, 2017, 11:03:09 AM
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This is a legit site but really hard to win in this site.
It is harder to win than it is on other dice sites because freebitcoin has higher house edge.
The lose rate is really high and when you use auto roll, the speed of roll is too fast so it's hard for us to control.
You can set all parameters to autobet stop when you want it to stop. If you don't like it you can bet manual.
If you're not addictive to play number games , you can earn from faucet in this site and it totally free. I would only stick to free roll.
Now this is bs. You don't have to be addicted to play multiplier game.
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June 15, 2017, 11:27:51 AM
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Some of you may notice that you do not need to solve a captcha for the free play game anymore. Its something that I have been working on and may be able to roll out to a larger number of users soon.

I also have some stuff planned to enable users to increase their base rewards since they have gone down a lot off late due to the rising bitcoin price.

Yes, thank you, it is much more convenient to use the site now.

I have one question. If I see this:
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What exactly I have to do to increase my FREE BTC rewards? I'm asking because I played MULTIPLY BTC more than 100 times, but nothing has changed.

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June 15, 2017, 12:16:58 PM
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Why dont they change site layout for better interface?

I think their current interface is the best for free faucet sites right now  Smiley
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June 15, 2017, 12:58:37 PM
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Why dont they change site layout for better interface?

Is it so important thing to do? Their layout is good already, no need to be changed. Just curious, what do you think would be a better interface for freebitcoin? Could you imagine it on a picture?

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June 15, 2017, 04:04:37 PM
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This is a good question and something we've been pondering. What thoughts do you all have?

Specifically, what elements of the current user interface are confusing, awkward, redundant, or time consuming?

Please PM me!

We'd love to get your feedback!

Why dont they change site layout for better interface?

Is it so important thing to do? Their layout is good already, no need to be changed. Just curious, what do you think would be a better interface for freebitcoin? Could you imagine it on a picture?

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Last edit: June 15, 2017, 04:35:12 PM by Kprawn
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This is a good question and something we've been pondering. What thoughts do you all have?

Specifically, what elements of the current user interface are confusing, awkward, redundant, or time consuming?

Please PM me!

We'd love to get your feedback!

Why dont they change site layout for better interface?

Is it so important thing to do? Their layout is good already, no need to be changed. Just curious, what do you think would be a better interface for freebitcoin? Could you imagine it on a picture?

Give it some nice graphics or background with a bit more colour. For example : A gambling theme for the Multiply BTC tab and a Lottery theme

for the Lottery tab. It should not be too busy to reduce bandwidth requirements. The Free BTC page is also very boring.. people should be pulled

to that tab. Everything looks very domestic and clean.... give it a bit of swank.  Wink

https://www.shutterstock.com/search/gambling   I like the red dice & the gambling on the fish hook... it is nice and clean.  Grin

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June 15, 2017, 06:13:30 PM
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I know this is probably the wrong thread, but are you guys still developing freedoge.co.in? Or is it being left as it is as a faucet? I wouldn't mind having some of the features of freebitco.in implemented into freedoge.co.in, as I do still collect from there on an hourly basis.
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June 15, 2017, 06:53:30 PM
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I know this is probably the wrong thread, but are you guys still developing freedoge.co.in? Or is it being left as it is as a faucet? I wouldn't mind having some of the features of freebitco.in implemented into freedoge.co.in, as I do still collect from there on an hourly basis.
freedoge.co.in working but now bonus is very low just because of this many users not checking this I agree with you now time to bring some change here also admin please check and work on this also for rising bonus because now its very low
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June 15, 2017, 09:12:02 PM
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well, hello everybody from bitcointalk,

i bumped into this forum searching for information about the new free-roll bonus. I saw wetsuits post asking about a provably fair lottery.

I would love to make the lottery provably fair but unfortunately there is no method of doing so as far as I know. Hence, I have done the next best thing which is to offer users a chance to opt out of the lottery and receive reward points instead if they feel the lottery is rigged. You can do this from the PROFILE page.

I willl offer 1 BTC to anybody who can provide me with a way to make the lottery provably fair in issuing tickets and picking out winners. The system described should be able to handle hundreds of millions of tickets and verification for users should be fairly easy and straightforward. You can post your ideas here and I'll go through them and reward the idea that we use.

Both the free roll and the dice game are provably fair and the website will be going completely ad-free as of today.

first of all, i have to say that i liked edge77's idea about converting ticket counts to ticket-windows.

You can design a system something like this:
Let's say, Person A bought 5,000 tickets, Person B bought 9,000 tickets, Person C bought 50,000 and Person D bought 1,17,000 tickets

User A : 5,000 tickets
User B : 9,000 tickets
User C : 50,000 tickets
User D : 1,17,000 tickets

Combined, total tickets : 1,81,000
Generate a random number between 0 and 1,81,000 [note by Zhor: this should be 180,999]

Set a windows like below :

0-5,000--- User A wins [note: again, 0-4999]
5,000-14,000--- User B wins [note: 5000 - 13,999. you get the point.]
9,000-64,000--- User C wins
64,000-1,81,000 ---User D wins // User D with most tickets has the largest window
...

the problem with that system is, that it is *not* provably fair, even though the "random number" chosen to pick the winner could be provably fair picked.
In the example above, a user could say, that the order of the windows (first user A, then B) has been manipulated so that the "right" user wins.
This is why i have come up with an adaption to get this system fully provable.

The idea is, we would need "public" knowledge about the exact amount of tickets each user had at the end of the lottery and about the order of the "ticket-windows".
If we simply publish the order of windows at the beginning of the lottery and add the number of tickets of each user at the end of the lottery-period, everything would be fine.
But i assume that it is no good idea to publish all these information, since anybody could find out a lot of interesting things, like how many users have below 1000 tickets, who are the top 10 of players with the most tickets and much more.
Imagine you knew the exact amount of tickets of all users for each lottery. you can even track the activity of every user.
Thats why we are going to hash these information and only publish the hashes.
To prove that the order of ticket-windows has not been altered after the drawing, we will create a "client(s)-seed" out of hashes of 3-tupels (UserID:FirstTicketNumber:TicketCount) of EVERY user. Lets have a look at the steps of the whole system:


1. publish hashed serverseed at the beginning of lottery-period [and nonce]
2. wait for the ending of lottery period
3. create ticket windows for every user (á la edge77)
4. send 3-tupel and hashed 3-tupel to every user (UserID:FirstTicketNumber:TicketCount)
5. publish all hashed 3-tupels
6. condense (hash again) all hashed 3-tupels into client-seed (to get an appropriate length) [and publish client-seed]
7. use server-seed and client seed to pick a provably fair random number. look up matching ticket-window and user (who wins!)
8. publish server-seed

this is only for one tier of lottery winners. to adapt this for 10 winners, we should probably add a nonce to the client- and server-seeds and count this up as we roll (at least) 9 more numbers. If we roll a user who already has won a bigger price, just reroll with nonce+1 again.


using this system, we can prove to any user:

a) that the server-seed has been chosen at the beginning of the lottery-period. (same as in free roll and multiply roll)
b) that his position in the list of ticket windows has been picked *before* choosing the winning number.

to prove b) the user has received his own 3-tupel of his UserID, the number of his first Ticket (in the example of edge77 this would be 0 for User A, 5000 for user B, 9000 for User C and 64 000 for User D), and the amount of his tickets.
he can now hash this 3-tupel by himself and search for that hash in the public list of all 3-tupel-hashes (see step 5!).
for example his hash could look like this: 344fbaff44ddcd7ca5d65b0324f4c40d01af30a5e7fabd4a18d69f80e4fa521f
now the list of all these 3-tupel hashes could look like this: ...:35fe8b392f1b2dfbc4745e52bba71750452f7a911e8d4cb31dd9ade427bf905b:344fbaff44ddcd7ca5d65b0324f4c40d01af30a5e7fabd4a18d69f80e4fa521f:347bb84f4d5260e8e1e1b759834df0095ee6e2225c31fdc8c5b060a637f36a16:...
and that list has been hashed to the final (public) clients-seed: ccb686936c6d0f33b97bc7d2b18db2f639381387c3ec813a11981b39d139d48b
he should find HIS has in the list of 3-tupels hashes and he should be able to hash the list of 3-tupel hashes into the client-seed.
that will verify that his position and amount of tickets were used to create the winning-number.

however if you want to verify that USER XYZ indeed won the first price, you only need to publish his 3-tupel (UserID:FirstTicketNumber:TicketCount).
anybody can then verify that this user indeed had the ticket-window that the winning number fell into, by finding his hash in the list of all 3-tupel-hashes.

for 2-nd price or 3rd price everybody knows that the nonce will be altered (+1 for 2nd price, +2 for third price and so on...)



so what do you guys think? is this too complicated? does it have security flaws? is it too much of edge77's idea? or is it not "convincing" enough?
also i humbly ask for your forgiveness if you find any spelling or grammar mistakes, since i am not a native english speaker.

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June 15, 2017, 09:55:19 PM
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Still didnt notice answer on : how much need to bet or spend there to get that bonus?
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June 15, 2017, 11:44:26 PM
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Why dont they change site layout for better interface?
And what is wrong with their interface? Website works perfectly on all devices, it's not full of ads, their design is clear and simple. I don't know what they have to change.
I know this is probably the wrong thread, but are you guys still developing freedoge.co.in? Or is it being left as it is as a faucet? I wouldn't mind having some of the features of freebitco.in implemented into freedoge.co.in, as I do still collect from there on an hourly basis.
Yeah, Freedoge.co.in don't get any updates and improvements. I remember that some time ago Wetsuit said that doge faucet isn't very popular and it's not worth to implement various updates, so they more focus on bitcoin faucet.

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Why dont they change site layout for better interface?
And what is wrong with their interface? Website works perfectly on all devices, it's not full of ads, their design is clear and simple. I don't know what they have to change.
I know this is probably the wrong thread, but are you guys still developing freedoge.co.in? Or is it being left as it is as a faucet? I wouldn't mind having some of the features of freebitco.in implemented into freedoge.co.in, as I do still collect from there on an hourly basis.
Yeah, Freedoge.co.in don't get any updates and improvements. I remember that some time ago Wetsuit said that doge faucet isn't very popular and it's not worth to implement various updates, so they more focus on bitcoin faucet.

Do you think that they could convert that faucet into something like a DASH or ETH faucet (Obviously not the same domain name, but same site structure)? Or would BTC still outperform everything else and make it not worth the time needed to develop and support it?
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June 16, 2017, 05:54:15 AM
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I just noticed that freebitco.in does offer a way to increase your free BTC rewards by up to a higher amount if the user play their multiply BTC dice or buy the site lottery tickets, I do try to roll quite a number of rolls but I doesn't see my free BTC payout amount increasing, is there a certain amount we must wager before the rewards get increase in the free roll?

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June 16, 2017, 06:57:06 AM
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I just noticed that freebitco.in does offer a way to increase your free BTC rewards by up to a higher amount if the user play their multiply BTC dice or buy the site lottery tickets, I do try to roll quite a number of rolls but I doesn't see my free BTC payout amount increasing, is there a certain amount we must wager before the rewards get increase in the free roll?

i believe there are 2 threshholds you need to surpass in order to increase the bonus.
if you pass the first, you get half the bonus (see http://puu.sh/wlufO/b1da593a65.png )
then there is another one, if you pass that, you get the full bonus. no steps in between. I do not know, how much you have to wager / how many tickets you have to buy. Maybe someone could test this?
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June 16, 2017, 07:31:39 AM
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i believe there are 2 threshholds you need to surpass in order to increase the bonus.
if you pass the first, you get half the bonus (see http://puu.sh/wlufO/b1da593a65.png )
then there is another one, if you pass that, you get the full bonus. no steps in between. I do not know, how much you have to wager / how many tickets you have to buy. Maybe someone could test this?


so my bonus just changed to the full bonus http://puu.sh/wlvpl/bca7c1d6e4.png. I guess wetsuit is constantly changing the system, trying to find what's best.
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June 16, 2017, 07:45:05 AM
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I just noticed that freebitco.in does offer a way to increase your free BTC rewards by up to a higher amount if the user play their multiply BTC dice or buy the site lottery tickets, I do try to roll quite a number of rolls but I doesn't see my free BTC payout amount increasing, is there a certain amount we must wager before the rewards get increase in the free roll?

i believe there are 2 threshholds you need to surpass in order to increase the bonus.
if you pass the first, you get half the bonus (see )
then there is another one, if you pass that, you get the full bonus. no steps in between. I do not know, how much you have to wager / how many tickets you have to buy. Maybe someone could test this?


I am still not able to understand do you mean that what amount of bonus is their we should play according to it multiply btc or buy lottery tickets or what should i do, as i have played double the bonus amount mentioned but my bonus btc did not changed
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