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June 25, 2017, 07:00:11 AM
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Since lottery is under scope now: I made simple statistic using last 10 lottery rounds.
And I found very , very interesting data.
It say that current it have 5,348,264 registered users.
From that number in last ten rounds  7 users got twice lottery and two of them got three times
They must be very lucky guys in private life.
Can I get little of theirs luck?  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Tongue Tongue Tongue Tongue
I removed user data ID, but every one can make same and got same data




You should also calculate the profit. Quite a few of those users spent more on tickets than they won (or they got it free from the dice game).

I do calculate profit and do calculate number of bayed tickets. Statistically speaking if your faucet has 5,348,264 users it is impossible that two of them get lottery every third time..  I can , and I will extend  statistics to next 20 lottery round, but I am afraid that lottery is everything then even possible fair Sad
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June 25, 2017, 07:16:41 AM
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If there are no technical difficulties, I'll have the provably fair system for the lottery implemented by round 110.

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June 25, 2017, 07:23:44 AM
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If there are no technical difficulties, I'll have the provably fair system for the lottery implemented by round 110.

So , all lottery rounds before 110 are /was unfair?
Who know maybe this time I got 1 BTC to shut my mouth Smiley
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June 25, 2017, 08:40:48 AM
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June 25, 2017, 08:46:23 AM
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If there are no technical difficulties, I'll have the provably fair system for the lottery implemented by round 110.

This is new statistic from 107 to 94 lottery round

Now we have 1 user got 4 times, 3 users got 3 times and 9 users got 2 times .

I agree it is probably fair ( how sarcastic)  Roll Eyes

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June 25, 2017, 09:37:58 AM
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If there are no technical difficulties, I'll have the provably fair system for the lottery implemented by round 110.

This is new statistic from 107 to 94 lottery round

Now we have 1 user got 4 times, 3 users got 3 times and 9 users got 2 times .

I agree it is probably fair ( how sarcastic)  Roll Eyes



But that 1 user who got 4 times spent 0.17 BTC on the lottery tickets.

And another one, who got 3 times, the last in the list, spent 0.3 BTC on the lottery tickets.

So, I mean, this doesn't look so unreal that some of their tickets were among the winning ones.

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June 25, 2017, 09:50:11 AM
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If there are no technical difficulties, I'll have the provably fair system for the lottery implemented by round 110.

This is new statistic from 107 to 94 lottery round

Now we have 1 user got 4 times, 3 users got 3 times and 9 users got 2 times .

I agree it is probably fair ( how sarcastic)  Roll Eyes



But that 1 user who got 4 times spent 0.17 BTC on the lottery tickets.

And another one, who got 3 times, the last in the list, spent 0.3 BTC on the lottery tickets.

So, I mean, this doesn't look so unreal that some of their tickets were among the winning ones.

IF those winners are REAL and not from the dev right? the dev could easily made few accounts and fake the number of lottery tickets, show the people that there are accounts that are spending BTC just to buy some and finally the dev will win all the lottery prize spots


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June 25, 2017, 10:01:33 AM
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If there are no technical difficulties, I'll have the provably fair system for the lottery implemented by round 110.

This is new statistic from 107 to 94 lottery round

Now we have 1 user got 4 times, 3 users got 3 times and 9 users got 2 times .

I agree it is probably fair ( how sarcastic)  Roll Eyes



But that 1 user who got 4 times spent 0.17 BTC on the lottery tickets.

And another one, who got 3 times, the last in the list, spent 0.3 BTC on the lottery tickets.

So, I mean, this doesn't look so unreal that some of their tickets were among the winning ones.

It is very unreal!
Why: because user from 12 rounds got something in 4 rounds. And currently there is 5,348,264 registered users. Dont forget that fact. What is chance that one user  got some prize in 4 rounds of lottery ( in the last 12 rounds of lottery) between other 5348264 users?Huh
 
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June 25, 2017, 11:19:29 AM
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Looking at the high number of registered users in the lottery, the chances to win twice or more in a lottery by the same person is actually very low, I know it is not impossible for that to happen, but I just don't feel convinced by the publish result, I am hoping to see a more transparent system on this lottery draw before I would spend my bitcoins into buying more lottery tickets.
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June 25, 2017, 12:24:29 PM
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Looking at the high number of registered users in the lottery, the chances to win twice or more in a lottery by the same person is actually very low, I know it is not impossible for that to happen, but I just don't feel convinced by the publish result, I am hoping to see a more transparent system on this lottery draw before I would spend my bitcoins into buying more lottery tickets.

Sure, smart people will wait till wetsuit implement a fair system for the lottery. Otherwise people will just burn their money to buy tickets for a lottery where they cant verify the draw. Once wetsuit has a better system, more people will join in the lottery.

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June 25, 2017, 12:59:45 PM
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Looking at the high number of registered users in the lottery, the chances to win twice or more in a lottery by the same person is actually very low, I know it is not impossible for that to happen, but I just don't feel convinced by the publish result, I am hoping to see a more transparent system on this lottery draw before I would spend my bitcoins into buying more lottery tickets.

Sure, smart people will wait till wetsuit implement a fair system for the lottery. Otherwise people will just burn their money to buy tickets for a lottery where they cant verify the draw. Once wetsuit has a better system, more people will join in the lottery.

It was a known issue for quite long time that this lottery system is rigged (we can say until wetsuit prove that it is wrong) but still every week people are buying the lottery and making wetsuit rich. If wetsuit thinks that he got a difficult to implement fair system then with immediate effect should stop this lottery system until it is fixed.

If there are no technical difficulties, I'll have the provably fair system for the lottery implemented by round 110.

wetsuit please stop this lottery system after this round if you can't make your system fair. I expect this to happen if you're an honest person. I will happily buy more tickets if you come up with a fair system. If not, you're cheating every week all your members just by giving technical difficulty reason.

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June 25, 2017, 01:49:50 PM
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all this talk about the unfair lottery... Wetsuit is trying to make this lottery provably fair. The fact that he is trying to implement this makes it very plausible that the lottery until now was fair, but just unable to prove its fairness.

to show my support in the system i went ahead and bought a million tickets. Let's hope for my ~5% chance.
http://puu.sh/wtRjs/13b2e8582a.png

Also, as a sidenode, this catapulted my bonus to the max:
http://puu.sh/wtRpV/99cccfe0ac.png

http://freebitco.in/?r=4021713&tag=tlk 100%refback
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June 25, 2017, 03:18:20 PM
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IF those winners are REAL and not from the dev right? the dev could easily made few accounts and fake the number of lottery tickets, show the people that there are accounts that are spending BTC just to buy some and finally the dev will win all the lottery prize spots

With respect for you as a member of this forum and user of FreeBitco.in, this doesn't make sense.

You're accusing devs of this site of theft, right? That's totally unfair. But let's think about the logic in that. If a dev wanted to steal, why would they go through the public display of buying lottery tickets to falsely justify earning the lottery?

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June 25, 2017, 03:34:00 PM
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I think what happened here is, some users have figured out that buying massive amounts of tickets increase your odds to win big amounts. They

tried several times and succeeded a few times. They might have lost more times than what they have won. We do not see the times when these

users buy huge amounts of tickets and lost everything. There are also some users with HUGE referral networks... and if these users are active,

they get a lot of FREE tickets for every round. { Receive 1 ticket for every roll your referrals play }  Roll Eyes

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June 25, 2017, 03:40:08 PM
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all this talk about the unfair lottery... Wetsuit is trying to make this lottery provably fair. The fact that he is trying to implement this makes it very plausible that the lottery until now was fair, but just unable to prove its fairness.

to show my support in the system i went ahead and bought a million tickets. Let's hope for my ~5% chance.


Also, as a sidenode, this catapulted my bonus to the max:



Just one with 1M tickets
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4361133
0.17267040 BTC
1,042,743

Are you that lucky person?
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all this talk about the unfair lottery... Wetsuit is trying to make this lottery provably fair. The fact that he is trying to implement this makes it very plausible that the lottery until now was fair, but just unable to prove its fairness.

to show my support in the system i went ahead and bought a million tickets. Let's hope for my ~5% chance.
http://puu.sh/wtRjs/13b2e8582a.png

Also, as a sidenode, this catapulted my bonus to the max:
http://puu.sh/wtRpV/99cccfe0ac.png


Just one with 1M tickets
5
4361133
0.17267040 BTC
1,042,743

Are you that lucky person?

nope, thats not me. i also had over 1.1 mil tickets, this guy has just 1.05

http://freebitco.in/?r=4021713&tag=tlk 100%refback
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I think what happened here is, some users have figured out that buying massive amounts of tickets increase your odds to win big amounts. They tried several times and succeeded a few times. They might have lost more times than what they have won. We do not see the times when these users buy huge amounts of tickets and lost everything. There are also some users with HUGE referral networks... and if these users are active, they get a lot of FREE tickets for every round. { Receive 1 ticket for every roll your referrals play }  Roll Eyes

Exactly. And for those who say that there is 5,348,264 registered users and it is impossible that some users have won 2 or 4 times I want to say NO, it is not impossible considering the number of tickets those users buy. I, for one, disabled my lottery to receive reward points instead of lottery tickets so it is no wonder that I never win in the lottery. Many others, even if they haven't disabled the lottery, never buy additional tickets, so those who buy hundreds of thousands or even millions of tickets increase their chances to win by thousands times and no wonder that they win more frequently then others.

That said, I'm not encouraging anyone to buy more lottery tickets in order to have more chances to win. Kprawn said it right: they might have lost more than what they have won, we don't know about that.

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I think what happened here is, some users have figured out that buying massive amounts of tickets increase your odds to win big amounts. They tried several times and succeeded a few times. They might have lost more times than what they have won. We do not see the times when these users buy huge amounts of tickets and lost everything. There are also some users with HUGE referral networks... and if these users are active, they get a lot of FREE tickets for every round. { Receive 1 ticket for every roll your referrals play }  Roll Eyes

Exactly. And for those who say that there is 5,348,264 registered users and it is impossible that some users have won 2 or 4 times I want to say NO, it is not impossible considering the number of tickets those users buy. I, for one, disabled my lottery to receive reward points instead of lottery tickets so it is no wonder that I never win in the lottery. Many others, even if they haven't disabled the lottery, never buy additional tickets, so those who buy hundreds of thousands or even millions of tickets increase their chances to win by thousands times and no wonder that they win more frequently then others.

That said, I'm not encouraging anyone to buy more lottery tickets in order to have more chances to win. Kprawn said it right: they might have lost more than what they have won, we don't know about that.
I say that. And still claim the same. Because, number of tickets is not only relevant for wining. Also there is random selection ( many users with 100 or even less tickets won some prizes. Also if you look last lottery round  you have 4 users that have less then 20.000 tickets, 4 less then milion and only 2 above milion.
So lets say that only small part of all users are active. Lets say 100.000. Even with that number getting 4 rewards in last 12 rounds of lottery is nearly impossible.
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I think what happened here is, some users have figured out that buying massive amounts of tickets increase your odds to win big amounts. They tried several times and succeeded a few times. They might have lost more times than what they have won. We do not see the times when these users buy huge amounts of tickets and lost everything. There are also some users with HUGE referral networks... and if these users are active, they get a lot of FREE tickets for every round. { Receive 1 ticket for every roll your referrals play }  Roll Eyes

Exactly. And for those who say that there is 5,348,264 registered users and it is impossible that some users have won 2 or 4 times I want to say NO, it is not impossible considering the number of tickets those users buy. I, for one, disabled my lottery to receive reward points instead of lottery tickets so it is no wonder that I never win in the lottery. Many others, even if they haven't disabled the lottery, never buy additional tickets, so those who buy hundreds of thousands or even millions of tickets increase their chances to win by thousands times and no wonder that they win more frequently then others.

That said, I'm not encouraging anyone to buy more lottery tickets in order to have more chances to win. Kprawn said it right: they might have lost more than what they have won, we don't know about that.
I say that. And still claim the same. Because, number of tickets is not only relevant for wining. Also there is random selection ( many users with 100 or even less tickets won some prizes. Also if you look last lottery round  you have 4 users that have less then 20.000 tickets, 4 less then milion and only 2 above milion.
So lets say that only small part of all users are active. Lets say 100.000. Even with that number getting 4 rewards in last 12 rounds of lottery is nearly impossible.


So you are saying, the owners of the site are paying the highest winnings to themselves and then randomly picking people for the lower tier

winner spots. {Say, 7th to 10th spot} Huh Well, that might be... but we have seen people reporting that they have won some of the higher

winning spots. {Are you saying these users are fake?}  Huh

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So you are saying, the owners of the site are paying the highest winnings to themselves and then randomly picking people for the lower tier

winner spots. {Say, 7th to 10th spot} Huh Well, that might be... but we have seen people reporting that they have won some of the higher

winning spots. {Are you saying these users are fake?}  Huh

Who are those people who succesfully bags 1st to 5th prize here? Like you said, you have seen it somewhere. So prior to your post, you thinks that all first prize winner are real human? Are they really genuine? Remember that it's weekly lottery so every week there's a winner.

If they will prove the lottery's provably fair in the future then fine but how about those who win in the past especially those who able to won big amount.

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