[ANN][Datacoin] Datacoin blockchain start announcement (Minor code upd + logo)

[maxsolnc]

Guys, I've seen several concepts for overwriting\deleting 'old' or 'unnecessary' files. But it breaks the whole concept of Datacoin. Look: someone uploaded some kind of Wikileaks archive to Datacoin, then hackers who work for government accessed his computer got his keys and deleted this info. It will be practically the same as Dropbox\GDrive storage: if someone gets your credentials, he can delete any info he wants, it breaks the whole concept.
And I've talked many times about 'proof-of-storage', just now there are no ways to avoid cheating like creating bunch of VPS that are linked to one blockchain - 'I have 1000 machines with Datacoin', and actually it will be 1 copy of blockchain and many virtual machines linked to it.

Talking about colored chain - will it be secure and reliable?

I'm not arguing with you, it is just my point of view. I'm not head developer, maybe he will read our threads and see some features to implement. But just now I have opinion as described above.

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[simbo]

Talking about colored chain - will it be secure and reliable?

Yes. But not for "temporary" storage(if I ever implement it), temporary storage is never reliable nor secure. Same as datacoin, my coin also have no intention to implement temporary storage function.

[extro24]

Simbo, why don't you fork the Datacoin repository on Github and implement these concepts in your branch?  If the lead dev finds it interesting he can accept your pull requests.

I have done that and started to play around with the code, because that is how Bitcoin advanced.

[simbo]

I already have my own coin, if the dev find it interesting, he can always port it over to datacoin.

[extro24]

What is your coin?

[simbo]

Siriuscoin

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=394146.0

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Simbo:

Thank you very much.

I always wanted a coin that can send messages and store data.  I believe that Datacoin is "The One" and that groups of developers will gather around to make it so.

I am trying to send messages in the balance using base58 encoding.  And perhaps help to add a little proof of stake to attract some late adopters and encourage people to keep their wallets open to provide the data services.

The developer is working on personal chains for the nodes to take the data off the main chain.  That will limit chain bloat and allow much greater storage.


Junk1:

The miner reward makes sense, but the final model for reward should be based on local storage and internet throughput of each client. Otherwise everyone will just use lite wallets and no one will store the data.
Data should be redundant, but each client should be able to specify the size of the chain he is going to store. This way if i choose to store 5,000TB of data chances are i will get more requests to serve that data to network, while someone who stores 100KB of data will have very few requests hence lower earnings.

This will be addressed by the private chains of the nodes.  Junk, if you like coding, set up your own branch of Datacoin on Github and add these ideas.

[olinnebit]

Guys, I've seen several concepts for overwriting\deleting 'old' or 'unnecessary' files. But it breaks the whole concept of Datacoin. Look: someone uploaded some kind of Wikileaks archive to Datacoin, then hackers who work for government accessed his computer got his keys and deleted this info. It will be practically the same as Dropbox\GDrive storage: if someone gets your credentials, he can delete any info he wants, it breaks the whole concept.
And I've talked many times about 'proof-of-storage', just now there are no ways to avoid cheating like creating bunch of VPS that are linked to one blockchain - 'I have 1000 machines with Datacoin', and actually it will be 1 copy of blockchain and many virtual machines linked to it.

Talking about colored chain - will it be secure and reliable?

I'm not arguing with you, it is just my point of view. I'm not head developer, maybe he will read our threads and see some features to implement. But just now I have opinion as described above.

What you are saying about whistle-blowers and data stored forever is what makes DTC so unique. No one can remove the info, it is the ultimate freedom of speech. I do not believe big government is going to become "kinder" and more people friendly. I am not saying they are out to get me, I am just saying  they aren't there to cuddle with me.

[GreekBitcoin]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=397540.0;topicseen

I am just leaving this here if anyone wants to vote for Datacoin

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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=397540.0;topicseen

I am just leaving this here if anyone wants to vote for Datacoin

Voted.

[GreekBitcoin]

http://www.reddit.com/r/Namecoin/comments/1ulp6s/if_you_like_namecoin_i_think_youd_be_interested/

kaja wrote a nice thread there. There are asking some questions. Specifically why Datacoin over Namecoin. So if anyone wants to asnwer...

[Snard]

Chain browser have some simple problems recently, like http://www.chainbrowser.com/datacoin/address/DD38QeAXrD2QqkjJ1mqMrpTrmiRTQhhC27/. Or maybe its not a bug, but feature

Will take a look today and see if I can figure out whats going on.  Been out of town the last few weeks.

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And please Snard, start your own branch of the Datacoin client on Github.  It will really help the coin.

[Snard]

And please Snard, start your own branch of the Datacoin client on Github.  It will really help the coin.

Branch for what? Confused.

[Supercomputing]

Chain browser have some simple problems recently, like http://www.chainbrowser.com/datacoin/address/DD38QeAXrD2QqkjJ1mqMrpTrmiRTQhhC27/. Or maybe its not a bug, but feature

Will take a look today and see if I can figure out whats going on.  Been out of town the last few weeks.

Is your chain browser closed source? If not, it will save me some time modifying yours instead of implementing one from scratch.

[Snard]

Is your chain browser closed source? If not, it will save me some time modifying yours instead of implementing one from scratch.

Yes, its closed source. Developed it myself for datacoin and with the ability to add other coins.

Why is there a need to create another one from scratch? Are there features missing that you want or just the bugs that are occurring?

[Supercomputing]

Is your chain browser closed source? If not, it will save me some time modifying yours instead of implementing one from scratch.

Yes, its closed source. Developed it myself for datacoin and with the ability to add other coins.

Why is there a need to create another one from scratch? Are there features missing that you want or just the bugs that are occurring?

Mainly for the transaction parsing bug. But it will be nice to also display the chain origin multiplier. Or take it further and display the type and length of the chain, and chain origin. If you want to keep your work closed source, I completely understand.

[Snard]

Mainly for the transaction parsing bug. But it will be nice to also display the chain origin multiplier. Or take it further and display the type and length of the chain, and chain origin. If you want to keep your work closed source, I completely understand.

Output bug I will work on. 

As for the rest, I am not sure what you mean by wanting type and length of the chain. Isn't the height the length?  And what do you mean by chain origin?  Any information can easily be shown if you tell me what you are looking for.

[Supercomputing]

Mainly for the transaction parsing bug. But it will be nice to also display the chain origin multiplier. Or take it further and display the type and length of the chain, and chain origin. If you want to keep your work closed source, I completely understand.

Output bug I will work on. 

As for the rest, I am not sure what you mean by wanting type and length of the chain. Isn't the height the length?  And what do you mean by chain origin?  Any information can easily be shown if you tell me what you are looking for.

Sorry, I missed it on your display page that you already have the Primechain (Cunningham chain) type. So all I need is the chain origin (header hash x multiplier), then if you add plus or minus one to the result, you get the first prime number for the chain.

[GreekBitcoin]

I would like a difficulty chart on chainbrowser