Come-from-Beyond
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December 24, 2013, 08:12:19 AM |
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But... doesn't that leave open the possibility of returning to today's state again? ...in regard to 2Kool4Skewl's comments...
Setting 10M hallmark if u can't handle so much traffic is a bad idea, but 1K still looks good to me. And of coz 90%+ legit nodes should use hallmark for the idea to work.
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OKNXT
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December 24, 2013, 08:13:42 AM |
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Completely remove hallmarks may be practical.
- 1000. Hallmark is the only way to distinguish zombie scripts. Ok, fighting!
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2Kool4Skewl (OP)
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December 24, 2013, 08:14:38 AM |
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Completely remove hallmarks may be practical.
- 1000. Hallmark is the only way to distinguish zombie scripts. Aren't zombie scripts a temporary problem anyway until the network grows? Once healthy nodes outnumber zombie nodes, there won't be this problem. Come-from-beyond said earlier that zombie nodes are easy to identify. Could the server attempt to validate the node on connection before it requested data and if the validation failed it would try another peer?
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2Kool4Skewl (OP)
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December 24, 2013, 08:16:06 AM |
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I think the best is to mark nodes and let peers to decide if they prioritize hallmarked nodes.
- it is useless unless you manage to find a way for Hallmarked nodes to prevent communication with non-Hallmarked nodes. Good point
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EmoneyRu
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December 24, 2013, 08:18:41 AM |
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Where does zombies.txt go?
It could be used for external tools to ignore communicating with this IPs. Example with iptables is here @ the bottom of pastebin code
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2Kool4Skewl (OP)
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December 24, 2013, 08:20:02 AM |
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Maybe the solution is this:
If you hallmark your node, you only communicate with hallmarked nodes and these hallmarked nodes are prioritized by balance. A hallmarked node could change a setting to allow communication with non-hallmarked nodes if they believe they can handle the requests. Maybe connections to non-hallmarked nodes could be throttled to 25% of your bandwidth. The hallmark node could enter their in/out bandwidth manually.
If you do not hallmark your node, you communicate only with other non-hallmarked nodes and those hallmarked nodes which allow it.
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OKNXT
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December 24, 2013, 08:20:23 AM |
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I think the best is to mark nodes and let peers to decide if they prioritize hallmarked nodes.
- it is useless unless you manage to find a way for Hallmarked nodes to prevent communication with non-Hallmarked nodes. Good point To prevent communication with non-Hallmarked nodes, the first thing we need to verify the peer whether it is hallmarked. So how to verify it? I'm confused. Thanks.
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December 24, 2013, 08:22:07 AM |
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Everybody talks about decentralised trading.
But the real big issue is that this money printed are centralised in hands of few already.
Do you think that they will send their money to others?
Do not you think that they would like to hold their power for the future?
If yes, this coin probably could fail because of this.
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December 24, 2013, 08:23:41 AM |
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Who can tell me the node 162.243.100.243 is hallmarked or not hallmarked?
Thanks.
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abctc
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December 24, 2013, 08:25:52 AM |
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Aren't zombie scripts a temporary problem anyway until the network grows? Once healthy nodes outnumber zombie nodes, there won't be this problem.
- of course it is constatn problem, becouse zombie is very cheap to attacker. Only need to put hallmarks make zombies much much pricie to attacker. Come-from-beyond said earlier that zombie nodes are easy to identify. Could the server attempt to validate the node on connection before it requested data and if the validation failed it would try another peer?
- it is easy only now. The attacker will quickly modify his zombies. It is like viruses.
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December 24, 2013, 08:27:47 AM |
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My lucky day, I generated my first block and earned 1 NXT on it, yee haa! Just wanted to share with you, guys
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December 24, 2013, 08:29:04 AM |
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To prevent communication with non-Hallmarked nodes, the first thing we need to verify the peer whether it is hallmarked. So how to verify it? I'm confused.
- simple. First time verify the IP. If it is not hallmarked, you put it in your black list. Thats all.
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December 24, 2013, 08:34:24 AM |
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My lucky day, I generated my first block and earned 1 NXT on it, yee haa! Just wanted to share with you, guys congrats! I forged about 48 blocks already and got 84nxt! jippiie
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December 24, 2013, 08:34:37 AM |
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We will see, market will tell us. But I do not think it is wise to buy something what others had printed and have in billions. Looks to very similar to Ripple coin, although NXT is improvement to Ripple . Do people like Ripple? Everybody talks about decentralised trading.
But the real big issue is that this money printed are centralised in hands of few already.
Do you think that they will send their money to others?
Do not you think that they would like to hold their power for the future?
If yes, this coin probably could fail because of this.
What you are suggesting is already NOT happening!!!
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December 24, 2013, 08:35:38 AM |
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To prevent communication with non-Hallmarked nodes, the first thing we need to verify the peer whether it is hallmarked. So how to verify it? I'm confused.
- simple. First time verify the IP. If it is not hallmarked, you put it in your black list. Thats all. Oh, thank you. Maybe I get it, by getPeer API: nxt?requestType=getPeer&peer=IP
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Ardolafat
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December 24, 2013, 08:39:51 AM |
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wow, its working today and someone sent me 1 nxt for no reason
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December 24, 2013, 08:44:09 AM |
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Once a node makes a request and doesn't get a response in 'x' time, it then needs to try another node until it receives a response. It should try nodes in increasing ping time order.
+1 I think having the network reliant upon VPS provided by benefactors is a bad idea. Nxt will then be centralized because it will depend on the people paying for VPS and the VPS providers. Both of these can be taken down.
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December 24, 2013, 08:44:19 AM |
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Maybe the solution is this:
If you hallmark your node, you only communicate with hallmarked nodes and these hallmarked nodes are prioritized by balance. A hallmarked node could change a setting to allow communication with non-hallmarked nodes if they believe they can handle the requests. Maybe connections to non-hallmarked nodes could be throttled to 25% of your bandwidth. The hallmark node could enter their in/out bandwidth manually.
If you do not hallmark your node, you communicate only with other non-hallmarked nodes and those hallmarked nodes which allow it.
pullThreshold and pushThreshold set to 1 will prevent communication with non-hallmarked nodes (for outbound requests).
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December 24, 2013, 08:46:45 AM |
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I see some people will invest their money. But billions in hands of few feels like "scam". I do not want to be rude here. Apologize. Sorry. This few with billions think that they have right to distribute the money. Yes, it could be true from their side. But I do not think it is opinion of others. Until people will find out, the coin value could go up. But if they will find out, it maybe will crash. The way it would not go up again. But it could be eventually more than month future. I would feel better from currency where the coins are distributed fairly. What is your opinion? We will see, market will tell us.
So... what are you seeing happening a FULL month now?
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December 24, 2013, 08:47:25 AM |
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Someone keeps registering all aliases, I hope he will have money left to register assets like "Bitcoin" and "USD"
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