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May 12, 2018, 06:44:07 PM
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You're designing your own firmwares, correct?


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May 12, 2018, 07:18:32 PM
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FYI I had done some research on these a while back...keep in mind these are DEVELOPMENT boards...they have alot of crap on them that is not needed for a straight mining board. I did preliminary work on stripping all this stuff and beefing up the power/cooling for higher clocks. Don't know why you would build/buy these in their current state for mining.

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May 12, 2018, 07:38:08 PM
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FYI I had don't some research on these a while back...keep in mind these are DEVELOPMENT boards...they have alot of crap on them that is not needed for a straight mining board. I did preliminary work on stripping all this stuff and beefing up the power/cooling for higher clocks. Don't know why you would build/buy these in their current state for mining.

Fair - something senseless should consider. However pin compatibility from a second source would be great.

@senseless - Yes I’ve got my own RTL and bitstreams - as well as some of my own hardware. I’m pondering your shell/publishing concept,  but I haven’t decided if it makes sense yet. I can see the VCU1525 and derivatives being produced in much greater quantity once there is interest though, and that leads to price reductions and makes it difficult for other options to be competitive.

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May 12, 2018, 08:13:43 PM
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@senseless - Yes I’ve got my own RTL and bitstreams - as well as some of my own hardware. I’m pondering your shell/publishing concept,  but I haven’t decided if it makes sense yet. I can see the VCU1525 and derivatives being produced in much greater quantity once there is interest though, and that leads to price reductions and makes it difficult for other options to be competitive.

I am in talks with someone who's in the process of developing a 250-300A vccint version of the VCU1525. It's quite possible that may be the version that ends up getting sold. I would like it to be, but again, it just depends on how things go. I should know more in the next couple of weeks. The price should remain within the same ranges depending on QTY. The 9P is the most mass produced chip, there's no getting around the fact it will be the lowest cost / logic ratio in large quantity.

If you have any questions RE the shell, send me a ping. Would love to hear your feedback and any problems you might have with it.


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May 12, 2018, 08:19:32 PM
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@senseless - Yes I’ve got my own RTL and bitstreams - as well as some of my own hardware. I’m pondering your shell/publishing concept,  but I haven’t decided if it makes sense yet. I can see the VCU1525 and derivatives being produced in much greater quantity once there is interest though, and that leads to price reductions and makes it difficult for other options to be competitive.

I am in talks with someone who's in the process of developing a 250-300A vccint version of the VCU1525. It's quite possible that may be the version that ends up getting sold. I would like it to be, but again, it just depends on how things go. I should know more in the next couple of weeks. The price should remain within the same ranges depending on QTY. The 9P is the most mass produced chip, there's no getting around the fact it will be the lowest cost / logic ratio in large quantity.

If you have any questions RE the shell, send me a ping. Would love to hear your feedback and any problems you might have with it.



I need to fire up an F1 instance and refamiliarize myself with how AWS does it. It has been sometime since I initially touched those and to be honest I never got deep into it.

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May 13, 2018, 02:23:48 PM
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I have already sat down with Xilinx (in Shenzhen) and negotiated chip pricing. If there is enough interest, I could facilitate a chip purchase, put the chips on boards and deliver them at a regular price of $4,000-$4,500. To hit a $4,000-$4,500 and stay at $4,000-$4,500 there would need to be at least 1,000 boards sold. If order volume went up to or over 10,000 units pricing could be dropped to $3,000-$3,500 per unit.

@senseless, could you please supply and point me the bulk price of bare FPGA XCVU9P-L2FSGD2104E 100pcs/1000pcs , if I'm interesting to participate of Xilinx chip group buy ?
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May 13, 2018, 02:53:59 PM
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I have already sat down with Xilinx (in Shenzhen) and negotiated chip pricing. If there is enough interest, I could facilitate a chip purchase, put the chips on boards and deliver them at a regular price of $4,000-$4,500. To hit a $4,000-$4,500 and stay at $4,000-$4,500 there would need to be at least 1,000 boards sold. If order volume went up to or over 10,000 units pricing could be dropped to $3,000-$3,500 per unit.

@senseless, could you please supply and point me the bulk price of bare FPGA XCVU9P-L2FSGD2104E 100pcs/1000pcs , if I'm interesting to participate of Xilinx chip group buy ?

I'm not allowed to resell chips. They have to be chips on boards. You could supply me your PCB, BOM, but I would have to run assembly.




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May 14, 2018, 04:41:37 AM
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@senseless - Yes I’ve got my own RTL and bitstreams - as well as some of my own hardware. I’m pondering your shell/publishing concept,  but I haven’t decided if it makes sense yet. I can see the VCU1525 and derivatives being produced in much greater quantity once there is interest though, and that leads to price reductions and makes it difficult for other options to be competitive.

I am in talks with someone who's in the process of developing a 250-300A vccint version of the VCU1525. It's quite possible that may be the version that ends up getting sold. I would like it to be, but again, it just depends on how things go. I should know more in the next couple of weeks. The price should remain within the same ranges depending on QTY. The 9P is the most mass produced chip, there's no getting around the fact it will be the lowest cost / logic ratio in large quantity.

If you have any questions RE the shell, send me a ping. Would love to hear your feedback and any problems you might have with it.



I need to fire up an F1 instance and refamiliarize myself with how AWS does it. It has been sometime since I initially touched those and to be honest I never got deep into it.



You can run the HDK on a much cheaper instance than the F1, do the dev work there and package the bitstream into an AFI (Amazon FPGA Image) that you load onto the F1 instance.  This link is useful . https://aws.amazon.com/ec2/instance-types/f1/
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May 15, 2018, 06:13:16 PM
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What are you currently mining with your VCU1525?
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May 15, 2018, 10:11:59 PM
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What are you currently mining with your VCU1525?

Keccak is the easiest to setup on an arbitrary FPGA, so on our various test platforms it’s Keccak or CN7, or Ethash but that’s a special multi-device configuration.

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May 15, 2018, 10:59:56 PM
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Yes, I would gladly buy one of these.
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May 15, 2018, 11:22:13 PM
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I'd buy several.
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May 15, 2018, 11:31:05 PM
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I'm interested both from an end-user and a developer perspective. Hope to see some more information soon Smiley
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May 16, 2018, 05:41:56 AM
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Interested as well. Have you visited the factory and see the production lines? Tested any samples?
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May 16, 2018, 06:46:34 AM
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sign me up pls, 2-4 units for starters
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May 16, 2018, 07:54:25 AM
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I'll purchase but waiting on updates on the mining firmware. 
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May 16, 2018, 08:17:51 AM
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@senseless - Yes I’ve got my own RTL and bitstreams - as well as some of my own hardware. I’m pondering your shell/publishing concept,  but I haven’t decided if it makes sense yet. I can see the VCU1525 and derivatives being produced in much greater quantity once there is interest though, and that leads to price reductions and makes it difficult for other options to be competitive.

I am in talks with someone who's in the process of developing a 250-300A vccint version of the VCU1525. It's quite possible that may be the version that ends up getting sold. I would like it to be, but again, it just depends on how things go. I should know more in the next couple of weeks. The price should remain within the same ranges depending on QTY. The 9P is the most mass produced chip, there's no getting around the fact it will be the lowest cost / logic ratio in large quantity.

If you have any questions RE the shell, send me a ping. Would love to hear your feedback and any problems you might have with it.


Keep us posted please.
I'd like to purchase between 1 and 3 units to start with, with the aim of increasing that up to tenfold (if my partners go along with it).



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May 16, 2018, 09:43:30 AM
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Keccak is the easiest to setup on an arbitrary FPGA, so on our various test platforms it’s Keccak or CN7, or Ethash but that’s a special multi-device configuration.



Hi give an hasrate idea of result for cn7 or ethash please

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May 16, 2018, 07:31:48 PM
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I heard my Baikal is using FPGA not ASIC. True or not true, this has aroused my interest for FPGA and I started to do more research. Unfortunately I had to realize that I lack the necessary knowledge to create something for myself.

I just found this thread. Bang!

Excited how it will continue here.
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May 17, 2018, 03:36:06 PM
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Those aren't in mass production yet.


You have said in the other thread that you mine using AWS and own a couple FPGAs yourself....  Could you please display them working before you start asking people about money?

Here's one of my VCU118 mining NIST5 with a PCI-E interface. Couple caveats... 1) This board is only 80A 0.85V vccint, so I need to stay under that to keep from frying it. The NIST5 design is operating at a fraction of it's maximum frequency because I can't operate it faster on this board. 2) Never completed / fully optimized nist5 because literally the day I was planning to start mining it baikal started mining it with their x10. 3) The picture says "AWS FPGA" because I use the same software on both.

Excuse the dust, that case was a GPU miner back in 2011. It's the only case I had that was big enough to fit the VCU118 and still put the side on it.

https://imgur.com/a/tmebe6W

And if you're curious why I named the software SuperMiner 31337, I was getting sick of pool operators getting curious about about my Fpgaminer software version string and superior hashrates. Moral of that story, pool server operators are watching and checking hashrates to try to gain an edge by seeing what's possible.

I'll see if I can make a video at some point showing it working with a monitor.


according to WTM that's about a $0.05/day return
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