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March 02, 2016, 04:37:19 PM
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Storm Jake is set to lash Britain on Wednesday, bringing ice, snow and wind gusts of up to 70mph.

Cold air will sweep across the majority of the country, with showers likely to turn into sleet and snow.

The Met Office is warning motorists to be careful on the roads after issuing a yellow warning for snow and ice for swathes of northern England, northern Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland.

Drivers in Cheshire, Nottinghamshire, Derbyshire and the Humber may be delayed on their morning commute as several centimetres of snow are expected to settle.....

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/storm-jake-ice-snow-and-wind-gusts-of-70mph-set-to-hit-the-uk-a6906681.html

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March 02, 2016, 04:40:10 PM
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Storm Jake is set to lash Britain on Wednesday, bringing ice, snow and wind gusts of up to 70mph.

Cold air will sweep across the majority of the country, with showers likely to turn into sleet and snow.

The Met Office is warning motorists to be careful on the roads after issuing a yellow warning for snow and ice for swathes of northern England, northern Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland.

Drivers in Cheshire, Nottinghamshire, Derbyshire and the Humber may be delayed on their morning commute as several centimetres of snow are expected to settle.....

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/storm-jake-ice-snow-and-wind-gusts-of-70mph-set-to-hit-the-uk-a6906681.html

Let me guess.  And it's the "hottest year of the century?"

ROFL...
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March 02, 2016, 06:37:37 PM
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You misrepresent the facts, which are clear right in the pages of this thread.

I provided direct links to the scientific data.  The only reason I did that is because you didn't seem to know where or how to find it it.  I explained, also, about the exact meaning of significance in trends as used by scientists. 

And I stand by my assertion.  If you DENY the hiatus, pause, "no warming in 19 years" in any fashion whatsoever,

You are a Denier.  

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So are 99% of scientists in the world?

That's a sad news for the global scientific community.
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March 02, 2016, 07:43:42 PM
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IS GLOBAL WARMING MAKING IT SNOW?


In the early days of global warming hysteria, the alarmists understandably warned that warmer temperatures would cause, among other things, less snow. Jim Steele reminds us:

[Kevin] Trenberth’s 1999 paper framing the effects of global warming on extreme precipitation declared, “With higher average temperatures in winter expected, more precipitation is likely to fall in the form of rain rather than snow, which will increase both soil moisture and run off, as noted by the IPCC (1996) and found in many models.” The 2001 IPCC 3rd Assessment repeated those expectations stating, “Northern Hemisphere snow cover, permafrost, and sea-ice extent are projected to decrease further.” Soon climate scientists like Dr. Viner proffered alarming scenarios that “children would no longer know what snow was”. Similarly in 2008 politicians like RFK Jr. warned DC children would be deprived of the fun of sledding due to global warming.

It all sounded plausible, but nature refused to cooperate:

But our climate naturally oscillates and by early February of 2010 Snowmageddon was blanketing the USA’s eastern seaboard with record snows, making global warming predictions the butt of many jokes. The heavy snows didn’t disprove CO2 had caused any warming, but it definitely highlighted failed predictions.

If the alarmists were scientists, they would acknowledge that a theory that generates false predictions is wrong. But they aren’t doing science, they are doing politics. So they retrospectively revised their predictions. Any port in a storm:

In 2011 Chris Mooney writing for the DeSmog blog noted heavy snowfall had become a “communications nightmare” for global warming theory and urged, “We need to move the public to a place where drawing a warming-snowstorm connection isn’t so challenging”.

Good luck with that.

Kevin Trenberth was already on point. Just two weeks after the 2010 Snowmageddon, Trenberth appeared in a NPR interview flip-flopping to a new climate change framework in which a “Warming Planet Can Mean More Snow”. Now he argued, “The fact that the oceans are warmer now than they were, say, 30 years ago means there’s about on average 4 percent more water vapor lurking around over the oceans than there was, say, in the 1970s”. Thus “you can get dumped on with more snow partly as a consequence of global warming,” A year later the Union of Concerned Scientists held a press conference asserting global warming was no longer causing less snow, but causing heavier snow. And now, every year as heavy snowstorms approach, Trenberth and his well-groomed media outlets bombard the public, urging them not to be misled by their senses, but trust that cold and snowy days have worsened due to global warming.

The alarmists’ new, improved global warming theory was that warmer temperatures caused the atmosphere to be able to hold more moisture. Therefore the total precipitable water vapor increases with CO2, and–presto!–more water vapor means more snow. All earlier predictions were conveniently forgotten.

There are several problems with this theory, including the fact that total precipitable water vapor has not increased in parallel with atmospheric CO2:



It is true that warmer temperatures allow the air to hold more water, so the lack of any significant increase in TPW implies that the Earth hasn’t been warming as required by the alarmists’ theories. Needless to say, this isn’t the conclusion they draw. But as we all know, consistency is not their strong point. Trenberth is famous for writing privately to his political allies: “The fact is that we can’t account for the lack of warming at the moment and it is a travesty that we can’t.”

The point of this amusing story is that for the alarmists, almost everything is negotiable. More snow? Less snow? No problem! No matter what happens, they tweak their models and pretend that they saw it coming all along. There is only one constant, one fixed star amid the models’ constant fluidity: the need for government control over the world’s economies. This is why governments pay billions to the climate alarmists, and are utterly indifferent to their laughable record of failed predictions. Climate alarmism has nothing to do with science.

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2016/02/is-global-warming-making-it-snow.php

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March 02, 2016, 10:11:54 PM
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You misrepresent the facts, which are clear right in the pages of this thread.

I provided direct links to the scientific data.  The only reason I did that is because you didn't seem to know where or how to find it it.  I explained, also, about the exact meaning of significance in trends as used by scientists. 

And I stand by my assertion.  If you DENY the hiatus, pause, "no warming in 19 years" in any fashion whatsoever,

You are a Denier.  

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So are 99% of scientists in the world?

That's a sad news for the global scientific community.

Look, 99% ARE NOT denying the "hiatus, pause, no warming in 19," etc.  That's why I am saying this.  The reasons these words and this concept exist is that it is well understood and discussed by those in the field. 

I mean, think about it.  If I reference the actual data and state the issue accurately, "No statistically significant warming in 19 years," please explain how you can get around that data set and that claim. 

By the way.  It's OKAY if you are a Denier.  I don't mind.  Really I don't.  Nobody here is going to fire you, throw you out, or even make fun of you. 
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March 03, 2016, 01:53:40 AM
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‘TOO EASY’ to school this media swoonfest over Leonardo DiCaprio ‘saving the planet’? (Hint: Yes. With photo)

Twitchy  by Lori Ziganto 12:47 am

Oh boy. Gag us with a silver spoon (shaddup! The 80’s were awesome). Well, the pathetic and ignorant media swoonfest over Hollywood hypocrite Leonardo DiCaprio and his quest to “save the planet” continues. Did Mashable not see the ONE photo response earlier in the week from this MTV star? We’ll help them out. You see, such photos explaining Mr. DiCaprio’s actual carbon footprint just never get old. Too easy? Yes, indeedy. Take a gander:

Too easy. pic.twitter.com/8vz7VpOEqF

— Countermoonbat (@CounterMoonbat) March 2, 2016

While that photo is really all that’s needed to school media fools, let’s make it even more clear for them, shall we?

@mashable The man who owns a private plane and yacht? #BellyLaugh #PullTheOtherOne

— gratzi mckatzi (@GratziM) March 2, 2016

@mashable Then why does he have a huge yacht that he parties on and taking a private jet 30+ times this year? #PracticeWhatYouPreach

— Mike Wolford (@badmike72) March 3, 2016

@mashable He also has a bigger carbon footprint than a small community. He should be looking at himself before criticizing everyone else.

— Feisty Broad (@FeistyBroad) March 2, 2016

Ding, ding, ding! But, hey, he probably doesn’t have time to take a look in the mirror what with all the yachting and jetting around and all.

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March 03, 2016, 10:49:08 AM
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‘TOO EASY’ to school this media swoonfest over Leonardo DiCaprio ‘saving the planet’? (Hint: Yes. With photo)

Twitchy  by Lori Ziganto 12:47 am

Oh boy. Gag us with a silver spoon (shaddup! The 80’s were awesome). Well, the pathetic and ignorant media swoonfest over Hollywood hypocrite Leonardo DiCaprio and his quest to “save the planet” continues. Did Mashable not see the ONE photo response earlier in the week from this MTV star? We’ll help them out. You see, such photos explaining Mr. DiCaprio’s actual carbon footprint just never get old. Too easy? Yes, indeedy. Take a gander:

Too easy. pic.twitter.com/8vz7VpOEqF

— Countermoonbat (@CounterMoonbat) March 2, 2016

While that photo is really all that’s needed to school media fools, let’s make it even more clear for them, shall we?

@mashable The man who owns a private plane and yacht? #BellyLaugh #PullTheOtherOne

— gratzi mckatzi (@GratziM) March 2, 2016

@mashable Then why does he have a huge yacht that he parties on and taking a private jet 30+ times this year? #PracticeWhatYouPreach

— Mike Wolford (@badmike72) March 3, 2016

@mashable He also has a bigger carbon footprint than a small community. He should be looking at himself before criticizing everyone else.

— Feisty Broad (@FeistyBroad) March 2, 2016

Ding, ding, ding! But, hey, he probably doesn’t have time to take a look in the mirror what with all the yachting and jetting around and all.

The post ‘TOO EASY’ to school this media swoonfest over Leonardo DiCaprio ‘saving the planet’? (Hint: Yes. With photo) appeared first on twitchy.com.


I like how the hypocrisy of Di Caprio is raised here Wink

Thanks for the link.

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March 03, 2016, 12:29:12 PM
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‘TOO EASY’ to school this media swoonfest over Leonardo DiCaprio ‘saving the planet’? (Hint: Yes. With photo)

Twitchy  by Lori Ziganto 12:47 am

Oh boy. Gag us with a silver spoon (shaddup! The 80’s were awesome). Well, the pathetic and ignorant media swoonfest over Hollywood hypocrite Leonardo DiCaprio and his quest to “save the planet” continues. Did Mashable not see the ONE photo response earlier in the week from this MTV star? We’ll help them out. You see, such photos explaining Mr. DiCaprio’s actual carbon footprint just never get old. Too easy? Yes, indeedy. Take a gander:

Too easy. pic.twitter.com/8vz7VpOEqF

— Countermoonbat (@CounterMoonbat) March 2, 2016

While that photo is really all that’s needed to school media fools, let’s make it even more clear for them, shall we?

@mashable The man who owns a private plane and yacht? #BellyLaugh #PullTheOtherOne

— gratzi mckatzi (@GratziM) March 2, 2016

@mashable Then why does he have a huge yacht that he parties on and taking a private jet 30+ times this year? #PracticeWhatYouPreach

— Mike Wolford (@badmike72) March 3, 2016

@mashable He also has a bigger carbon footprint than a small community. He should be looking at himself before criticizing everyone else.

— Feisty Broad (@FeistyBroad) March 2, 2016

Ding, ding, ding! But, hey, he probably doesn’t have time to take a look in the mirror what with all the yachting and jetting around and all.

The post ‘TOO EASY’ to school this media swoonfest over Leonardo DiCaprio ‘saving the planet’? (Hint: Yes. With photo) appeared first on twitchy.com.


I like how the hypocrisy of Di Caprio is raised here Wink

Thanks for the link.
But according to Warmer religion, it is not hypocrisy.  It's time for you to understand, and revel in, your rights to carbon credits and carbon offsets.
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March 03, 2016, 01:11:39 PM
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I like how the hypocrisy of Di Caprio is raised here Wink

Thanks for the link.
But according to Warmer religion, it is not hypocrisy.  It's time for you to understand, and revel in, your rights to carbon credits and carbon offsets.
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You're really tiring talking about warmer religion...

Like you're also talking about the "round earth religion" and the "O2 is the base of life religion"?
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March 03, 2016, 01:34:49 PM
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Climate change could devastate UK nutrition, cause 1,200 extra deaths in 2050 – study

University of Oxford researchers say world food production will be seriously hampered by climate change, resulting in more than 500,000 adult deaths worldwide in 2050.

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March 03, 2016, 03:12:56 PM
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Climate change could devastate UK nutrition, cause 1,200 extra deaths in 2050 – study

University of Oxford researchers say world food production will be seriously hampered by climate change, resulting in more than 500,000 adult deaths worldwide in 2050.


That number must be wrong. 99% of Global Warming Scientists believe this number to be 4.20% bigger by the time they ran out of propaganda money.


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I like how the hypocrisy of Di Caprio is raised here Wink

Thanks for the link.
But according to Warmer religion, it is not hypocrisy.  It's time for you to understand, and revel in, your rights to carbon credits and carbon offsets.

You're really tiring talking about warmer religion...

Like you're also talking about the "round earth religion" and the "O2 is the base of life religion"?
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I don't want to be a bore, for sure.

Well, call it what you want, I guess.  "True Believers???"

But we're likely in agreement about the "hypocricy" although i feel it is important to note the way these narcissic twerps rationalize it with carbon credits and offsets and such.
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But according to Warmer religion, it is not hypocrisy.  It's time for you to understand, and revel in, your rights to carbon credits and carbon offsets.

You're really tiring talking about warmer religion...

Like you're also talking about the "round earth religion" and the "O2 is the base of life religion"?

The 'flat earth/round [spherical] earth' thing is a psy-op designed to give warmistas an excuse to avoid debates with rational people.  Much like the '99% of sciententists say' class of argument.  These are necessary because they inevitably get their asses handed to them when they try to argue coherently on scientific merit.  Nobody I know who has a basic competence science believes the 'flat earth' nonsense.  I'll wager that about the only people who do are only pretending to as part of their shill game.

I've not heard of the 'O2 religion' thing.  People who have the aforementioned basic competence recognize immediately that O2 is a highly abundant(*) waste product of the vast majority of life on earth by biomass.  CO2, on the other hand, is a rare and valuable trace gas necessary for the existence of said biomass for which there is much competition.

* except in anaerobic conditions where the atmosphere is excluded.

edit: slight.

sig spam anywhere and self-moderated threads on the pol&soc board are for losers.
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But according to Warmer religion, it is not hypocrisy.  It's time for you to understand, and revel in, your rights to carbon credits and carbon offsets.

You're really tiring talking about warmer religion...

Like you're also talking about the "round earth religion" and the "O2 is the base of life religion"?

The 'flat earth/round [spherical] earth' thing is a psy-op designed to give warmistas an excuse to avoid debates with rational people.  Much like the '99% of sciententists say' class of argument.  These are necessary because they inevitably get their asses handed to them when they try to argue coherently on scientific merit.  Nobody I know who has a basic competence science believes the 'flat earth' nonsense.  I'll wager that about the only people who do are only pretending to as part of their shill game.

I've not heard of the 'O2 religion' thing.  People who have the aforementioned basic competence recognize immediately that O2 is a highly abundant(*) waste product of the vast majority of life on earth by biomass.  CO2, on the other hand, is a rare and valuable trace gas necessary for the existence of said biomass for which there is much competition.

* except in anaerobic conditions where the atmosphere is excluded.

edit: slight.


I hope the poster will give us links about that O2 religion. I want to know more.

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March 04, 2016, 10:23:23 PM
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A feminist glaciology



Many readers will be familiar with the famous Sokal hoax paper, in which physicist Alan Sokal wrote a nonsensical article on the “hermeneutics of quantum gravity” and got it published in a sociology journal. Other more recent examples of accepted papers include a completely computer-generated mathematics paper and a repeated request to be removed from a mailing list.

Now it seems that climate science has fallen for a similar joke paper. The journal Progress in Human Geography (impact factor 5, which is quite high) has published an article Glaciers, gender, and science: A feminist glaciology framework for global environmental change research.

Excerpts below are taken from just the first 3 pages of this 24-page masterpiece, plus a final quote from the conclusions.

“Glaciers are key icons of climate change and global environmental change. However, the relationships among gender, science, and glaciers – particularly related to epistemological questions about the production of glaciological knowledge – remain understudied.”

“Merging feminist postcolonial science studies and feminist political ecology, the feminist glaciology framework generates robust analysis of gender, power, and epistemologies in dynamic social-ecological systems, thereby leading to more just and equitable science and human-ice interactions.”

“A critical but overlooked aspect of the human dimensions of glaciers and global change research is the relationship between gender and glaciers.”

“Through a review and synthesis of a multi-disciplinary and wide-ranging literature on human-ice relations, this paper proposes a feminist glaciology framework to analyze human-glacier dynamics, glacier narratives and discourse, and claims to credibility and authority of glaciological knowledge through the lens of feminist studies.”

“A combination of feminist postcolonial science studies and feminist political ecology provide the intellectual foundation for feminist glaciology.”

“Feminist glaciology is rooted in, and combines, both feminist science studies and postcolonial science studies to meaningfully shift present-day glacier and ice sciences.”

“The response to simplistic ‘ice is just ice’ discourse is not merely to foreground or single out women and their experiences – that would simply perpetuate binaries and boundaries and ignore deeper foundations. Rather, it is a larger integration of human approaches and sensibilities with the existing dominant physical sciences. Global environmental change research must pluralize its ontologies, epistemologies, and sensibilities.”

Updates:

The “research” was carried out on a $412,930 NSF grant, full details here.

One of the authors seems to be proud that his article is the ‘most-read’ at the journal.

In reply, the journal says that the paper will only be freely available for two weeks, so make sure you download a copy and save it now for future reference.


http://cliscep.com/2016/03/03/a-feminist-glaciology/


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March 05, 2016, 12:19:56 AM
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It´s bunk, but not a hoax in that there is really Human Geography being taught in the social sciences. And behavioral, feminist, cultural geography etc. It´s all part of the pretty recent "critical" geography. Feminist glaciology, business as usual.

See also Critical theory and political correctness. Seems to be related or from the same roots.

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March 05, 2016, 11:08:21 AM
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Temperatures across the country are expected to plummet as the Met Office issued a cold weather alert, also warning of ice and frost.

The yellow alert was issued for the entire weekend up to 7 March, with those in the north of England and the midlands most likely to be affected by adverse conditions.

Temperatures at night are set to drop to around zero, while ‘a band of rain, sleet and snow’ is falling across northern England, creating hazardous travel conditions....

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/severe-weather-warning-issued-as-temperatures-across-the-country-drops-below-zero-a6913641.html

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March 05, 2016, 11:11:47 AM
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Mitt Romney thinks climate change is one of the nation’s greatest challenges

MARCH 4, 2016

And we’re supposed to listen to his warnings about Donald Trump? Romney thinks human activity contributes to global warming. He thinks it is urgent that global action be taken to solve this non-problem. He cites climate change as one of those issues that political leaders in Washington are failing to address.

And we’re supposed to listen to his warnings about Donald Trump? “I’m one of those Republicans who thinks we are getting warmer and that we contribute to that,”  said Romney at an investment management conference in Utah, the Associated Press reported.

In his 2010 book, No Apology, he wrote of this belief and added that he was “uncertain how much of the warming, however, is attributable to man and how much is attributable to factors out of control.”

The Donald is not alone in his skepticism. Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz are also climate-change skeptics. “I do not believe that human activity is causing these dramatic changes to our climate the way these scientists are portraying it,” Rubio said in an ABC News interview last year. As to Cruz, he told CNN last year:  “The last 15 years, there has been no recorded warming. Contrary to all the theories that …  they are expounding, there should have been warming over the last 15 years. It hasn’t happened.”

http://onpolitics.usatoday.com/2015/01/22/mitt-romney-climate-change/

http://www.wnd.com/2015/01/mr-flip-flop-romney-flips-on-global-warming/

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March 05, 2016, 12:24:01 PM
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Mitt Romney thinks climate change is one of the nation’s greatest challenges

MARCH 4, 2016

And we’re supposed to listen to his warnings about Donald Trump? Romney thinks human activity contributes to global warming. He thinks it is urgent that global action be taken to solve this non-problem. He cites climate change as one of those issues that political leaders in Washington are failing to address.

And we’re supposed to listen to his warnings about Donald Trump? “I’m one of those Republicans who thinks we are getting warmer and that we contribute to that,”  said Romney at an investment management conference in Utah, the Associated Press reported.

In his 2010 book, No Apology, he wrote of this belief and added that he was “uncertain how much of the warming, however, is attributable to man and how much is attributable to factors out of control.”

The Donald is not alone in his skepticism. Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz are also climate-change skeptics. “I do not believe that human activity is causing these dramatic changes to our climate the way these scientists are portraying it,” Rubio said in an ABC News interview last year. As to Cruz, he told CNN last year:  “The last 15 years, there has been no recorded warming. Contrary to all the theories that …  they are expounding, there should have been warming over the last 15 years. It hasn’t happened.”

http://onpolitics.usatoday.com/2015/01/22/mitt-romney-climate-change/

http://www.wnd.com/2015/01/mr-flip-flop-romney-flips-on-global-warming/


Just like 0bama.

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March 05, 2016, 01:24:53 PM
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So banning should re enforced for the non believers then. Get it. Should we ban all of those who not only do not believe in bitcoin or all of those creating altcoins on bitcointalk?
No they shouldn't be banned, reddit should setup a tinfoil section for the anti-science brigade.


It's not anti-science. It's alternative science offering other hypothesise for the same observations.

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