NobleCoin[NOBL] - 8% PoS | 1Yr+ | MARKETPLACE | PAY | GIFT | CHARITIES/MERCHANTS

[voephilis]

http://www.coindesk.com/small-australian-city-plans-big-bitcoin-economy/

to sum up the SEC thing doesn`t change a lot for NOBL or?

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[Rofo]

http://www.coindesk.com/small-australian-city-plans-big-bitcoin-economy/

to sum up the SEC thing doesn`t change a lot for NOBL or?

Doesn't change a thing. I don't sell or advertise unregistered securities in Australia - it's quite the crypto. progressive country so far.

[NorrisK]

So many changes ahead in all fields.. Will be an interesting (frustrating?) Time.

[ontopicplease]

I got no good news, aprat from that you are not the only one.

You can try checking this thread:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=824211.1180
Mintpal / Moolah Scam - 5,200 BTC Now Missing!!! - Report Missing Funds

Additionally, the new SEC letters being sent (about money transmitting bussiness now applies to every US based exchange, even pure crypto2crypto) ...
https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/sec-sends-inquiry-letters-hundreds-bitcoin-companies-unregistered-securities/
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:zat3GWvT4kcJ:https://coinfire.cf/2014/10/27/sec-begins-sending-investigation-letters/

Something tells me that we should be very careful about other exchanges that handle Noblecoin too: Bittrex, Poloniex ... I, for one, am withdrawing all NOBL from exchanges to my wallets, as I did with BTC 6 months before gox fiasco (it was obvious) and two weeks before Mintpal "upgrade"... Yes Rofo warned us all, number of times, but that face and voice of Moolah on YouTube was even more convincing that Alex/WhateverIsHisName, he is a scam artist from the heart...
--edit:-- I'm sure the Trex and Polo owners will inform the users if the thing are going too hot, and will give the users a time to withdraw, if the regulators hunting start to look bad.


PS. SYSCoin went for the legal path:
https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/syscoin-injunction-moolah-granted-uk-judge/

--edit2:-- Ryan?
https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/dogecoin-leaders-present-evidence-ceo-troubled-bitcoin-exchange-moolah-long-time-scammer/

Thanks a lot for all information.

[The One]

Bad news...prices going up....13 sats being bought.

Bad news because i still got some BTC waiting to get matched at a lower price so start selling.......

The price kept on going up.....SSSSSSSSSSSEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLLLLLLL

[pikuchato]

Bad news...prices going up....13 sats being bought.

Bad news because i still got some BTC waiting to get matched at a lower price so start selling.......

The price kept on going up.....SSSSSSSSSSSEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLLLLLLL

Free market dude, if you think noble potential ends @ 15 sat you should definitely sell.
I think it worth much more then that.

My goal is to buy things and not just sell against BTC, time will tell...


EDIT: Oh I'm so stupid, I didn't realize you are trying to buy

[popticu]

Only 2 coins I support is NOBL and Guldencoin. Lots of respect for both communities. I know nobl will bounce back!

[RD965]

Bad news...prices going up....13 sats being bought.

Bad news because i still got some BTC waiting to get matched at a lower price so start selling.......

The price kept on going up.....SSSSSSSSSSSEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLLLLLLL

Free market dude, if you think noble potential ends @ 15 sat you should definitely sell.
I think it worth much more then that.

My goal is to buy things and not just sell against BTC, time will tell...


EDIT: Oh I'm so stupid, I didn't realize you are trying to buy

Still good price and will be a nice stake

[johnsans]

new whitepaper and new feature will give nobel a strong support especial for price . ten times  ,~~~maybe.....

[voephilis]

guys, should everybody send GBattaglia some NOBLs or do we collect first and send later?
who has already sent some NOBL?

[GBattaglia]

guys, should everybody send GBattaglia some NOBLs or do we collect first and send later?
who has already sent some NOBL?

Nothing has been sent yet so either option still works. I do have a solid reputation here though if you check
my trust, and I have posted in the NobleCoin thread as far back as the 17th page or so:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=402667.msg4389700#msg4389700



Will continue work on it later tonight.

[kresu]

Welcome Back to Top 100.



--edit:-- They seem to have our Total Supply not updated...
According to https://chainz.cryptoid.info/nobl/ we are at:
- 2,198 M NOBL which gives a cap of $120k

Ergo: we should already be at 95. position.

--edit2:-- TIP: If you sort by % Change (24h), NOBL is at 4th place

[james6546]

Welcome Back to Top 100.



--edit:-- They seem to have our Total Supply not updated...
According to https://chainz.cryptoid.info/nobl/ we are at:
- 2,198 M NOBL which gives a cap of $120k

Ergo: we should already be at 95. position.

--edit2:-- TIP: If you sort by % Change (24h), NOBL is at 4th place

Yeaaaaahhhhh!!!

[james6546]

guys, should everybody send GBattaglia some NOBLs or do we collect first and send later?
who has already sent some NOBL?

I don't mind, I trust him not to run away with it! What's an acceptable bounty for some graphics?

[pikuchato]

guys, should everybody send GBattaglia some NOBLs or do we collect first and send later?
who has already sent some NOBL?

I don't mind, I trust him not to run away with it! What's an acceptable bounty for some graphics?

Yeah, please think of a reasonable sum of noble before we donate I have no clue..

james/voephilis/kresu/GBattaglia I trust you all, feel free to open a new noble address for the bounty (it's not like you need my permission but you have it anyway ).

[rigdeer]

The scammer Ryan Kennedy(Alex Green) is facing an injunction and very likely jail if he doesnt comply.

[The One]

Bad news...prices going up....13 sats being bought.

Bad news because i still got some BTC waiting to get matched at a lower price so start selling.......

The price kept on going up.....SSSSSSSSSSSEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLLLLLLL

Free market dude, if you think noble potential ends @ 15 sat you should definitely sell.
I think it worth much more then that.

My goal is to buy things and not just sell against BTC, time will tell...


EDIT: Oh I'm so stupid, I didn't realize you are trying to buy

Yes........had BTC up for ages and got some matched. I can see it going to 80 - 100 sats sometimes next year hence wanted more at 3 to 5 sats.

Should have taken 6 sats

[CryptoBlox]

Hey all, we've upgraded the CryptoBlox Mining Portal and are now running a new Pool software where you can mine your Noblecoins.

We are still in BETA with the pool software but everything should be fully operational, let me know if you have any issues and happy mining.

Enjoy 0% fees during our BETA stage while we confirm 100% that there are no kinks in the system.

mine.cryptoblox.com

We also do provide the Noblecoin Block Explorer and Faucet as well as the Noblecoin Charity Mining Pool that got us all off and running in the beginning.

[Rofo]

http://jasonlcurby.com/nocc2.png
http://jasonlcurby.com/Distribution-Draft.pdf

All I'm going to release until ready. Please PM me your Q's here as some have that will be answered. Much of this I'm getting proofread and input from many other sources. It is a draft - needs tightening - will be improved.

This is not more talk (as a lot of the year has been) as the pre-ANN and release/ITO/movement will be available by the end of the week and move into next - the CC coins and/or NXT is ready - the infrastructure is there - the licensing and gameplan outlined in the paper - exchange ready and interested parties.

DMD is working on PoW/PoS and will be added to the Marketplace/CoinPayments as soon as I get the word an update can be ready to be rolled out in preparation (or beforehand if they would like me to move first). I would also like to extend the offer - if permission is granted - for this to be payable in DMD at 10% discount (as NOBL will be) for their support and I will pass them their funds funds for dev. or to burn at their discretion.

Better insight:

<Rofo> the paper hopefully fixes the price, attitude and general apathy
<Rofo> ive listed all the gold stuff in the paper also
<Rofo> its very easy for people to ask me to work or back or peg or offer discounts or deliver things without sometimes realizing that things cost money and resources
<Rofo> so ive always had a choice to either fund that through the premine (which means selling which means scam email alerts and more negative feedback)
<Rofo> or not doing anything which is considered just as bad
<Rofo> of the $300k premine only $7k became fiat and anyone is welcome to report that and double-check it (and get me for fraud ala moolah) *I will publish documents & accounts that testify to this*
<Rofo> but
<Rofo> if i had turned all that into fiat at the top and become quite rich
<Rofo> people would not trust me at all but be happier with the price
<Rofo> of NOBL since id be controlling & pumping it
<Rofo> its been a very damned if you do damned if you dont situation all year
<Rofo> but
<Rofo> everythings gone into the paper for 2015 very differently
<Rofo> i think itll make the case quite well
<Rofo> ive been thinking of
<Rofo> if blocknet and supernet are linking protocols and coins in a horizontal manner
<Rofo> this is a project reaching vertically on top of multiple platforms instead
<Rofo> v2 has a codename i dont want taken
<Rofo> https://twitter.com/NobleCoin/status/510770935402483712
<Rofo> having a premine and not dumping it early was a double-edge sword
<Rofo> noone wanted it dumped to protect their coin value but at the same time im competing with people that have a lot of btc and i needed to fund stuff with minimum resources instead to make my case
<Rofo> the whole reason i focused on rep and trust and legitimacy/transparency etc at risk of making everyone unhappy for a year
<Rofo> was for this coming stage with the moolah backlash and higher expectations/requiring cleaner actors etc
<Rofo> *this paper is a raising (ITO 50% NOBL/50% BTC)
<Rofo> *NOBL (that is used to move into this project) burnt for good
<Rofo> *BTC to fund everything very clearly laid out (a very strong case)
<Rofo> what we need are real use-cases and real unique selling points/services
<Rofo> and i know i need to sacrifice a decent amount of decentralization and idealism for a lot of that
<Rofo> so im intertwining the two
<Rofo> some people want to move off
<Rofo> some new people want to enter the idea but not nobl
<Rofo> and some people dont want me to touch nobl
<Rofo> think of it as blocknet but a centralized crowdfunded idea on top of a protocol rather than joining protocols together
<Rofo> but its very important and laid out that people who hold NOBL see why it works too
<Rofo> its not a decentralized curreny and is deflationary/has a shelf life of approximately 18 months
<Rofo> while NOBL continues on after and the idea is recycled
<Rofo> i need to get a lot of things right and that makes sense to people so they get all the 'ahhh' moments i had to go through lol
<Rofo> ok for better or worse keep in mind this is a draft and i have multiple people who will be proofreading after i tighten it up
<Rofo> plus itll grow to make more sense with the faq and more questions over the next cpl weeks
<Rofo> http://jasonlcurby.com/Distribution-Draft.pdf
<Rofo> legalities is full of
<Rofo> distinctions and system-setup that makes it different from a ponzi-scheme
<Rofo> or SEC regulation/illegal activities or how it works
<Rofo> until we get regulatory clarification and/or licensing (australia is a good country for that)
<Rofo> plus many services and infrastructure outlined in utility
<Rofo> ive been unable to afford the final advice and final tick of approval for the second-hand dealers license
<Rofo> even though its only around $500 i want some legal clarification in the capital
<Rofo> maybe that makes clearer why this helps NOBL holders as well
<Rofo> i can fund things and do the perks/get more people interested in a similar coin
<Rofo> and actually deliver everything i should have sold the premine for
<Rofo> the second cycle will probably be very different to the first
<Rofo> as regulations and law will have become clarified and ill be licensed
<Rofo> but if i just moved all of NOBL over
<Rofo> and said im in charge now, this is centralized
<Rofo> well that just blows everything out of the water and isnt really a good idea imho
<Rofo> nocc is colored coins using coinprism/web wallet
<Rofo> noxt is nxt 'asset'
<Rofo> both different, just 'possible' platforms
<Rofo> could be counterparty of clearinghouse 2 but my preference would be cc or nxt
<Rofo> or*
<Rofo> basically its using the platforms for what theyre meant to be used for
<Rofo> rather than just making another damn 2.0 platform
<Rofo> but
<Rofo> you dont have to use either unless u want to cold store
<Rofo> as itll be on polo and ill push for bittrex support
<Rofo> if the idea took off you could interchange between platforms using an intermediary
<Rofo> 3. Platform Agnosticism = its the coin and what it represents that coints, the users could use their platform of choice
<Rofo> one platform though is good for liquidity and experimentation
<Rofo> all this year ive been building things on top of the protocols while ours suffered and didnt go anywhere due to talks disintegrating into nothing
<Rofo> so this leverages all of them
<Rofo> with exchanges picking up 2.0s and some dev work to offer a site that allows you to move coins across platforms
<Rofo> everything built on top starts becoming a little more platform agnostic
<Rofo> but
<Rofo> thats more business focused rather than NobleCoin which i want to keep building as a decentralized currency
<Rofo> colored/appcoins work a lot differently
<Rofo> yes we can do that
<Rofo> colored coins are very sexy and simple but i have too much control over issuance for people to feel comfortable
<Rofo> many people will just keep their coins on exchanges and not worry about the platform even after everything
<Rofo> for nxt they can take it to the nxt wallet yes
<Rofo> im leaning towards nxt
<Rofo> because CC lets me reissue at will which is something people wont accept for good reason
<Rofo> nxt also allows decentralized exchange and extra exchanges
<Rofo> the platform is really nice, but the perception of nxt is not ideal
<Rofo> yeah ive always wanted distribution to be even and very spread but if something is distributed differently and that fact made public i dont see how its a big deal as people know what theyre getting themselves into ala NXT
<Rofo> what ive always disliked is complete control masked over time as fair and natural distribution

[pikuchato]

Noble is like a box of chocolates.

Instead of chocolates you get a box full of condoms for the next party.

Best. coin. Ever.

May 22, 2014 !!