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January 11, 2015, 12:28:42 PM
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I will be focusing purely on the NOXT deliverables as mentioned. Because they will include NOBL payments (including the marketplace) they will all continue to run. I am still hoping to hear from PD to wrap up the PoS transition, but then require new leadership to promote and bear the brunt of NOBL promotion and community-related work and communication.

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January 11, 2015, 12:42:18 PM
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No blame from me either, and I'm saddened you got burnt out that way.

I hope you will be able after a break to reconsider your position about Cryptos, while I understand it will leave scars, you also learned an awful lot, and it would be a shame to let all that go to waste. If not in a position of pressure/leader, but more for consulting, reviewing, writing articles, that kind of things, ie. more as an opinion leader or critic than a day-to-day operations man.

Noblecoin will certainly take a beating in the short term, but it could be an opportunity for a reboot, maybe rather than hurrying to replace you, there could be some room to discuss how things could be done differently to allow more people to help, and what could be done to avoid the pitfalls of the first year, both in terms of day-to-day help, and in terms of directions.

I can help with the technical side, would be happy to contribute to the more "philosophical" side of Noble, and would be delighted if you Rofo, were to stay around even just to provide occasional feedback... and eventually reap some rewards for all your work.

Whatever your final decision, thank you!

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I will be focusing purely on the NOXT deliverables as mentioned. Because they will include NOBL payments (including the marketplace) they will all continue to run. I am still hoping to hear from PD to wrap up the PoS transition, but then require new leadership to promote and bear the brunt of NOBL promotion and community-related work and communication.

very good decision to focus full on NOXT

NOBLE isnt broken its working coin
u can leave it run in state as it is now for long time

once NOXT is a success NOBLE can fullfil a role there

NOXT is the key to success

and while u full focused there
NOBLE community can show what they can deliver
special in area POS if they want it that bad.......

i think only people who can really understand the ongoing pressure that u suffer
are people who themself in lead of a coin

i can say highest respect for the long time u able to run this as a one man show
i can say for sure i wouldnt be able hold out that long without teammates who gave me power back

and once u announced to run a second big project (NOXT) i did clear see it will be to much without gather a team

focus full on NOXT can be the solution that make that project a success and longterm have possitive aspects on NOBLE too


 
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January 11, 2015, 01:22:59 PM
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OK look guys I apologise. Let me finalize the bullion licensing and work here in Canberra (Im in the middle of a move and meetings for NOXT) so I can officially tie precious metals and digital currencies. PD if you're reading this we'd love to have you on board to finalize PoS. Then we can take NOBL and NOXT in the right direction for 2015. Maybe I was having a weak moment. But I think we need to band together and get our shit sorted so we can stand out for once.

I can't really go anywhere can I. I think we need a power restructuring though to work better together as a community rather than just myself.

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January 11, 2015, 01:24:53 PM
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damn i bought noble to convert to noxt at 0.00000014 but now you say you won't burn nobl to noxt?? i should have bought noxt directly instead bad luck Undecided
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January 11, 2015, 01:33:08 PM
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OK look guys I apologise. Let me finalize the bullion licensing and work here in Canberra (Im in the middle of a move and meetings for NOXT) so I can officially tie precious metals and digital currencies. PD if you're reading this we'd love to have you on board to finalize PoS. Then we can take NOBL and NOXT in the right direction for 2015. Maybe I was having a weak moment. But I think we need to band together and get our shit sorted so we can stand out for once.

I can't really go anywhere can I. I think we need a power restructuring though to work better together as a community rather than just myself.

Noble = rofo. That is my opinion on this and has always been.

I do however think we need a team, so someone in charge of PR, someone to review PMs, someone to be in charge of dev work etc. It is just too much for one person to do on their own, and we would much rather have rofo being in charge of some of Noble than no rofo at all.

I volunteer to help out with some stuff, whatever that may be.
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January 11, 2015, 01:46:17 PM
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I buy noble in 2014, 1.5mil for 220 satoshi,  still not sell single coin. Community need to help rofo with this project. This is to big project for single person.
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Quote from: Rofo link=topic=402667.msg10113513#msg10113513"420982579
OK look guys I apologise. [...] I can't really go anywhere can I. I think we need a power restructuring though to work better together as a community rather than just myself.
Yes, spread the workload!

About the swap to PoS, as an alternative to exchange based, it would be possible to distribute a premine to match current funds for each and every address, with the explorer I could generate a "premine distribution script" that could do it.

This way while the blockchains would be reset, the balances would not be lost, without having to send funds to an exchange, so even people not aware of the swap would not lose funds (they could just copy-paste their old wallet, them do a rescan or import their private keys).
Being a script I can generate it multiple times , for testing or for "real".

If you (as in Rofo + community) are interested in that, just let me know. If that can help cut the switch complexity / cost down... The script would be publicly available for scrutiny of course.

PS: currently 14417 noble addresses hold funds, so a 1:1 distribution with 10 outputs per tx would take a 1442 lines scripts. No particular coding would be needed: the script would just be a list of "noblecoind sendmany" commands, to be run on the wallet of the premine. Remaining premine coins could then be burned or whatever. As a bonus, the distribution of the premine would be in the clear, in the blockchain, rather than in an exchange's private database.
Not saying it's the best option, just saying it's an option you can have for "free".

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Quote from: Rofo link=topic=402667.msg10113513#msg10113513"420982579
OK look guys I apologise. [...] I can't really go anywhere can I. I think we need a power restructuring though to work better together as a community rather than just myself.
Yes, spread the workload!

About the swap to PoS, as an alternative to exchange based, it would be possible to distribute a premine to match current funds for each and every address, with the explorer I could generate a "premine distribution script" that could do it.

This way while the blockchains would be reset, the balances would not be lost, without having to send funds to an exchange, so even people not aware of the swap would not lose funds (they could just copy-paste their old wallet, them do a rescan or import their private keys).
Being a script I can generate it multiple times , for testing or for "real".

If you (as in Rofo + community) are interested in that, just let me know. If that can help cut the switch complexity / cost down... The script would be publicly available for scrutiny of course.

This sounds like a good idea. If we decide to work on PoS migration ourselves we could use such a script.
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January 11, 2015, 02:35:29 PM
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Post-Scriptum on the PoS premine distribution:

I just looked: currently 14417 noble addresses hold funds, so a 1:1 distribution with 10 outputs per tx would take a 1442 lines scripts.

No particular coding would be needed: the script would just be a list of "noblecoind sendmany" commands, to be run on the wallet of the premine. Remaining premine coins could then be burned or whatever.

As a bonus, the distribution of the premine would be in the clear, in the blockchain, rather than in an exchange's private database.

Not saying it's the best option, just saying it's an option you can have for "free".

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January 11, 2015, 04:19:47 PM
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OK look guys I apologise. Let me finalize the bullion licensing and work here in Canberra (Im in the middle of a move and meetings for NOXT) so I can officially tie precious metals and digital currencies. PD if you're reading this we'd love to have you on board to finalize PoS. Then we can take NOBL and NOXT in the right direction for 2015. Maybe I was having a weak moment. But I think we need to band together and get our shit sorted so we can stand out for once.

I can't really go anywhere can I. I think we need a power restructuring though to work better together as a community rather than just myself.

Noble = rofo. That is my opinion on this and has always been.

I do however think we need a team, so someone in charge of PR, someone to review PMs, someone to be in charge of dev work etc. It is just too much for one person to do on their own, and we would much rather have rofo being in charge of some of Noble than no rofo at all.

I volunteer to help out with some stuff, whatever that may be.

I could do PR with someone who is a native speaker. English, German, French etc. and I could help out with some legal advice.
We have a very good running blog where we can publish press releases, updates etc.

PM sent to you Voephilis.
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January 11, 2015, 04:50:20 PM
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Quote from: Rofo link=topic=402667.msg10113513#msg10113513"420982579
OK look guys I apologise. [...] I can't really go anywhere can I. I think we need a power restructuring though to work better together as a community rather than just myself.
Yes, spread the workload!

About the swap to PoS, as an alternative to exchange based, it would be possible to distribute a premine to match current funds for each and every address, with the explorer I could generate a "premine distribution script" that could do it.

This way while the blockchains would be reset, the balances would not be lost, without having to send funds to an exchange, so even people not aware of the swap would not lose funds (they could just copy-paste their old wallet, them do a rescan or import their private keys).
Being a script I can generate it multiple times , for testing or for "real".

If you (as in Rofo + community) are interested in that, just let me know. If that can help cut the switch complexity / cost down... The script would be publicly available for scrutiny of course.

PS: currently 14417 noble addresses hold funds, so a 1:1 distribution with 10 outputs per tx would take a 1442 lines scripts. No particular coding would be needed: the script would just be a list of "noblecoind sendmany" commands, to be run on the wallet of the premine. Remaining premine coins could then be burned or whatever. As a bonus, the distribution of the premine would be in the clear, in the blockchain, rather than in an exchange's private database.
Not saying it's the best option, just saying it's an option you can have for "free".

pretty good idea and it can be combined with a /10 of all coin piles

this would help a lot leaving that single digit satoshi place which is very bad

a few technical questions
so u copy addresses and public keys
what user need to do to get his private keys into the new wallet

a export tool that works offline that export all keys from old wallet.dat and import it into new wallet.dat would be needed i guess
(this tool need a readable sourcecode and crosschecked by multiple people because it must made sure its save to use)

if it would be that easy i wonder why it wasnt done many times before?

 
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If you are a capable PR professional, join us in #Noblecoin on freenode. Also, we need article writers, journalists, web forum moderators, programmers, and website managers. Please pm me with your experience/educational background briefly and we can bring you on board.


We need to have the community working together and sharing the workload, with each individual contributing as part of a team, not everyone waiting for one guy to do everything by himself and watching the price. Cryptocurrency is just now getting some real mainstream attention, so this is the point of maximum financial opportunity - the real key is to join in the effort precisely at this time rather than going along with the majority of the down and out population.

Also, DO NOT PESTER ROFO ABOUT PRICES. It's NOT his job to pump prices for you or artificially raise an asset/coin's value. He has NO obligation to spoon feed anyone profits or 'assure' certain price range. He has already done more than enough to buy back some noxt when people had cold feet (something that he really isn't obligated to do - if you made an investment, it's your job to stick with it).

He is the developer and creator of a concept and initiative. It's YOUR job to promote, talk to people, and bring awareness and widespread adoption of a particular brand of cryptocurrency - appropriately high value and prices will depend on YOUR participation.

Cryptocurrency is at an infancy where true market movement and market value is almost never the norm. Not even for BTC - everyone knows how hard its prices are manipulated and artificially controlled, while exchanges both in the west and in china are known to operate on extremely low reserves. 2015 will change that for some projects, mainly due to gaining mainstream financial backing and acknowledgement, but that largely depends on YOUR efforts, not just sitting around waiting one man to take you to high heavens.

For anyone reading this without posting or just lurking and sending rofo pm/dm on here, twitter, or irc and screaming at him about prices or values, or even sending him personal threats (because he was professional enough to be transparent about his identity from January of 2014 while you hide behind 'anonymity' on the internet), go fuck your mother and keep your price/WHY U NO PUMP bullshit to yourself.

Personal threats and messages of such nature will no longer be tolerated and be kept on record for future needs should things go out of control. Rofo isn't in some 3rd world lawless country and I assure you he, I, and the community can take step to address these threats if necessary.

Since rofo's profile is a public one, this is a different ball game from the usual shit talking with two 'anonymous' peoples on the internet.



Let's work together, and bring some positive team work to this environment. Future of nobl and noxt is in our hands as much as they are in Rofo's.


PM me if you have interest in helping out with noblecoin and/or noxt on a professional level, be it programming, marketing, PR, web design or management, etc. Be sure to prepare some summary or brief introduction on your experiences and background on your expertise.

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January 11, 2015, 07:12:45 PM
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We need a graphic designer for a new wallet. Can you help with that? If not do you know someone who is talented and would like to help?

Feel free to answer here or PM myself.

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January 11, 2015, 07:36:28 PM
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Quote from: Rofo link=topic=402667.msg10113513#msg10113513"420982579
OK look guys I apologise. [...] I can't really go anywhere can I. I think we need a power restructuring though to work better together as a community rather than just myself.
Yes, spread the workload!

About the swap to PoS, as an alternative to exchange based, it would be possible to distribute a premine to match current funds for each and every address, with the explorer I could generate a "premine distribution script" that could do it.

This way while the blockchains would be reset, the balances would not be lost, without having to send funds to an exchange, so even people not aware of the swap would not lose funds (they could just copy-paste their old wallet, them do a rescan or import their private keys).
Being a script I can generate it multiple times , for testing or for "real".

If you (as in Rofo + community) are interested in that, just let me know. If that can help cut the switch complexity / cost down... The script would be publicly available for scrutiny of course.

PS: currently 14417 noble addresses hold funds, so a 1:1 distribution with 10 outputs per tx would take a 1442 lines scripts. No particular coding would be needed: the script would just be a list of "noblecoind sendmany" commands, to be run on the wallet of the premine. Remaining premine coins could then be burned or whatever. As a bonus, the distribution of the premine would be in the clear, in the blockchain, rather than in an exchange's private database.
Not saying it's the best option, just saying it's an option you can have for "free".

pretty good idea and it can be combined with a /10 of all coin piles

this would help a lot leaving that single digit satoshi place which is very bad

a few technical questions
so u copy addresses and public keys
what user need to do to get his private keys into the new wallet

a export tool that works offline that export all keys from old wallet.dat and import it into new wallet.dat would be needed i guess
(this tool need a readable sourcecode and crosschecked by multiple people because it must made sure its save to use)

if it would be that easy i wonder why it wasnt done many times before?
I have two ideas why this was not a popular solution:
1. With this approach you need to educate coin holders how to move their private key from one wallet onto another. This is not the simplest thing. If you fail to provide good docs people will call you a crook etc.
2. It is always easier to follow somebody's else path of swapping via exchange. Also when swapping via exchange you can charge your customer more for same action Wink

And question to you since you seem to be related to DMD team? What happened to their efforts of switching NOBLE to PoS? At first they claimed such a swap was a piece of cake and they needed a month to do this. Then someone was sick and communication stopped. Has he died or something?
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January 11, 2015, 07:59:12 PM
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Quote from: Rofo link=topic=402667.msg10113513#msg10113513"420982579
OK look guys I apologise. [...] I can't really go anywhere can I. I think we need a power restructuring though to work better together as a community rather than just myself.
Yes, spread the workload!

About the swap to PoS, as an alternative to exchange based, it would be possible to distribute a premine to match current funds for each and every address, with the explorer I could generate a "premine distribution script" that could do it.

This way while the blockchains would be reset, the balances would not be lost, without having to send funds to an exchange, so even people not aware of the swap would not lose funds (they could just copy-paste their old wallet, them do a rescan or import their private keys).
Being a script I can generate it multiple times , for testing or for "real".

If you (as in Rofo + community) are interested in that, just let me know. If that can help cut the switch complexity / cost down... The script would be publicly available for scrutiny of course.

PS: currently 14417 noble addresses hold funds, so a 1:1 distribution with 10 outputs per tx would take a 1442 lines scripts. No particular coding would be needed: the script would just be a list of "noblecoind sendmany" commands, to be run on the wallet of the premine. Remaining premine coins could then be burned or whatever. As a bonus, the distribution of the premine would be in the clear, in the blockchain, rather than in an exchange's private database.
Not saying it's the best option, just saying it's an option you can have for "free".

pretty good idea and it can be combined with a /10 of all coin piles

this would help a lot leaving that single digit satoshi place which is very bad

a few technical questions
so u copy addresses and public keys
what user need to do to get his private keys into the new wallet

a export tool that works offline that export all keys from old wallet.dat and import it into new wallet.dat would be needed i guess
(this tool need a readable sourcecode and crosschecked by multiple people because it must made sure its save to use)

if it would be that easy i wonder why it wasnt done many times before?

Clams has done it so the code is there. DMD team not aware of that? DMD failed Nobl. All I saw from DMD was Marketing bullshit trying to get Noble supporters to throw money at DMD.

DMD is on my shitlist.

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January 11, 2015, 08:10:55 PM
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And question to you since you seem to be related to DMD team? What happened to their efforts of switching NOBLE to PoS? At first they claimed such a swap was a piece of cake and they needed a month to do this. Then someone was sick and communication stopped. Has he died or something?

bad research or missed some important postings in this thread

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=402667.msg9701723#msg9701723

and the answer of rofo basical was that he have no more time to wait
and started to work with palmdetroid

which is not a bad decision because PD is a longterm POS coin dev

but i think blaming have no place here

@Hueristic bullshit....  im a big noble and noxt investor im able dance in 2 parties here as a guest and at DMD as as one of the guys who host the party



 
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Everyone who wants to help post your skills in here in a single post....

All I can offer is my advice as I have done all along. I don't want to be the I told you so guy, but I warned over and over until my hands hurt that ASIC's would destroy this coin. As did others. I still do not understand why POS was chosen but I acquiesced and supported and watched and tried to hope as I saw this coming from a long way off. Check my posts if you don't believe. It is too late now for a POS switch I think. The support base is too low and we would be 51'd again. It would not go well to be the first 51'd POS coin. I'm really not sure what could be done right now.

But that being said, I support Rofo and Noble 100% as I have from the beginning. I would join a team of brainstormers to find a direction to save this coin.

If the POS is still going forward I would think that the premine could be used as weight to secure the network in the initial phase maybe with a milestone of auto burning (hard coded) as the network grows? Well that is off the top of my head anyway.

I have tons of ideas but I do not throwing them in open forums as people that want to kill this coin monitor this thread. We have the added problem of being small and vulnerable. Yet our strongest point has always been dedication.

And as to disclose, I not longer hold Noble. I burned my small holdings (1.5 mill bought @32 mostly) and plan on holding as Noxt.

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January 11, 2015, 08:15:32 PM
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..Also, DO NOT PESTER ROFO ABOUT PRICES. It's NOT his job to pump prices for you or artificially raise an asset/coin's value. He has NO obligation to spoon feed anyone profits or 'assure' certain price range. He has already done more than enough to buy back some noxt when people had cold feet (something that he really isn't obligated to do - if you made an investment, it's your job to stick with it).

He is the developer and creator of a concept and initiative. It's YOUR job to promote, talk to people, and bring awareness and widespread adoption of a particular brand of cryptocurrency - appropriately high value and prices will depend on YOUR participation. ...

Yeah all you scumbags who bought only to burn and dump can suck my dick.

I warned to only burn coins bought before the Noxt announcement. I'm not sure if that was the case or not.

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January 11, 2015, 08:21:17 PM
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We need a graphic designer for a new wallet. Can you help with that? If not do you know someone who is talented and would like to help?

Feel free to answer here or PM myself.

Thanks!

I could help out with that; can you provide more info?

However I'm pretty busy ATM, so I'm wondering how urgent is that request?

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