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Author Topic: Vertcoin - First Scrypt N | First Stealth Address - Privacy without mixer  (Read 1232685 times)
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June 06, 2014, 05:27:01 AM
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I would like more info on how stealth address works
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June 06, 2014, 06:28:15 AM
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Yes, we will definitely pay your post lots of attention .. maybe not as much as you got with your 37 posts.

I'm not even sure why I'm trying to teach economics 101 to retarded believers. Vertcoin would drop an other 75% and people would still say "w/e in vertcoin we trust". I made 500% in 2 months not by going long with VTC. I like the coin and at one point I had 15 000 units of it playing it long, held them for > 2 months.

Someday you wake up with 50% less BTC than if you had kept them in BTC and you just give up. There is simply too much inflation to "hoard" VTC. VTC is not a good value keeper by any means even tho I would rate the potential of this coin higher than doge/ltc/etc.

I'm trying to give pertinent argumentation about why I think that and all you can say is "you just have 37 posts". I'm done losing my time trying to help retards.

You are welcome.

Yeah, cool insulting is fine too i guess. It's ppl like you for the momentous profit that are sadly the culprits and (as of not to long ago) the drivers of the crypto market.

Economics on a alt-coin crypto market ? what are YOU smoking ?
You have only speculators and miners on the market, what kind of economics can u possibly have with this.

So you held 15k for 2 months ?! And I am the retard ? Seriously !? Like that inflation & profitability thing u just pointed out hit you too late ?

You should see each coin as a SHARE instead of a coin. Let me tell you that if/when a big company decides to EMIT 10% more shares to finance their operation that the price WILL tank quite a bit. VTC does EXACTLY that on a daily basis.

I have held 15k VTC for quite some time before realizing this simple concept. That's why POS are much more in demand now, they are more of an hybrid.

Look at it this way, if VTC market cap of 2M VTC is equalt to 200 BTC on march 2014, and that on July 2014 there is now 4M VTC on the market what should the price of 1 VTC on July 2014 be worth if there is no new demand, no new innovation and nothing really new to interest the investors/bad holders ? It's just simple math really. There is just WAY too much inflation and as interest come and go you are going to see PUMP and then slow decline, PUMP and slow decline. It's not that people are dumping their holdings, it's that new VTC are produced in too big quantity to be fully absorbed by the new investors. I believe that if VTC stop minting, the price would not only stabilize but increase in value slowly and steady, like NXT has been doing or BC or w/e.

This is just negative talking! Vertcoin is one of the biggest coins that you can mine and is ASIC resistant. This is unique! everyone knows vertcoin. Sentiment is always bad at the bottom, looking at all the negative post it's a good buy opportunity!

There are still not many Vertcoin out there, and you forget the fact that at this moment BTC shifts only from one alt to the other. You forget that there could be a huge surge of new money from fiat holders in the future. What will the new investors be looking for? Stable coin or Pump and dump?

So bassicly you're only discussing sentiment here and not the true value of Vertcoin. If the price is low and Vertcoin starts adjusting block rewards, what would this tell you, Vertcoin can be manipulated with buying en selling. This not want we want, Cryptocurrency is about freedom not about pumping up your BTC wallet.
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June 06, 2014, 07:55:33 AM
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So bassicly you're only discussing sentiment here and not the true value of Vertcoin. If the price is low and Vertcoin starts adjusting block rewards, what would this tell you, Vertcoin can be manipulated with buying en selling. This not want we want, Cryptocurrency is about freedom not about pumping up your BTC wallet.

Hurrah. Someone who gets it. Have a cigar.

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June 06, 2014, 11:06:40 AM
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So bassicly you're only discussing sentiment here and not the true value of Vertcoin. If the price is low and Vertcoin starts adjusting block rewards, what would this tell you, Vertcoin can be manipulated with buying en selling. This not want we want, Cryptocurrency is about freedom not about pumping up your BTC wallet.

Hurrah. Someone who gets it. Have a cigar.



and a bit of math...

daily mined bitcoins = 3600 btc

vertcoin: 28,8k * 0,0012btc = ~35 btc per day (less than 1%)
litecoin: 28,8k * 0,0172btc = ~500 btc per day

question:
what revolutionary changes were made to litecoin during last year - for handling 500 btc per day "inflation problem" ?

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June 06, 2014, 12:07:30 PM
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So bassicly you're only discussing sentiment here and not the true value of Vertcoin. If the price is low and Vertcoin starts adjusting block rewards, what would this tell you, Vertcoin can be manipulated with buying en selling. This not want we want, Cryptocurrency is about freedom not about pumping up your BTC wallet.

Hurrah. Someone who gets it. Have a cigar.



and a bit of math...

daily mined bitcoins = 3600 btc

vertcoin: 28,8k * 0,0012btc = ~35 btc per day (less than 1%)
litecoin: 28,8k * 0,0172btc = ~500 btc per day

question:
what revolutionary changes were made to litecoin during last year - for handling 500 btc per day "inflation problem" ?



^this,there is a inflation problem only when there isnt enough demand,and that is going to change...
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June 06, 2014, 12:43:08 PM
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Vertcoin is in my book called Cryptocurrency "The Alt-ernative" Beginner's Reference.  Here is first draft of IFC:


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=356065.msg7131241#msg7131241

MAIN CRYPTOCURRENCY BOOK THREAD: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=483187.0


Vertcoin will look similar to this.  Coin specifications, history, exchanges and other miscellaneous details will be included.  Please help fund the publication of this book which I plan to publish this summer.  

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June 06, 2014, 01:28:19 PM
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So bassicly you're only discussing sentiment here and not the true value of Vertcoin. If the price is low and Vertcoin starts adjusting block rewards, what would this tell you, Vertcoin can be manipulated with buying en selling. This not want we want, Cryptocurrency is about freedom not about pumping up your BTC wallet.

Hurrah. Someone who gets it. Have a cigar.



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June 06, 2014, 02:02:04 PM
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how to mine it with cpu??? Huh I need some help, and I hope someone can tell me. thanks so much,

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June 06, 2014, 03:26:04 PM
Last edit: June 06, 2014, 07:17:22 PM by cubevtc
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10% Bonus PLX coins for all miners

Cube Pool is pleased to announced that it has added PLX mining to its current (VTC+MON) pool.  We would like to thank all miners for your continued support.  As a token of appreciation, all miners at Cube Pool will receive 10% bonus PLX coins . New miners are welcome too!

Main Website : http://pool.cubeconnex.com

Mining URL : stratum+tcp://stratum.cubeconnex.com:7777
Europe        : stratum+tcp://eu.cubeconnex.com:7777
Asia             : stratum+tcp://asia.cubeconnex.com:7777

Simply set your miner as follows :
vertminer -o stratum+tcp://stratum.cubeconnex.com:7777 -u <My_Vertcoin_Address> -p <My_Monocle_Address>.<My_Parallax_Address>

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June 06, 2014, 03:26:22 PM
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Read a comment today on Coindesk:

http://www.coindesk.com/facebook-approves-first-cryptocurrency-tipping-apps/


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Vertcoin has potential but got gutted recently when the lead developer left.


Anyone care to explain what the guy meant by that?
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June 06, 2014, 03:28:02 PM
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Read a comment today on Coindesk:

http://www.coindesk.com/facebook-approves-first-cryptocurrency-tipping-apps/


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Vertcoin has potential but got gutted recently when the lead developer left.


Anyone care to explain what the guy meant by that?

i do not know, who can accout for it?? why is the price of the coin so low??/ Shocked

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June 06, 2014, 03:45:19 PM
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how to mine it with cpu??? Huh I need some help, and I hope someone can tell me. thanks so much,

I use minerd.

Go here and follow the link to get it
https://vertco.in/index.php?page=gettingstarted

Use a mining pool for CPU mining, not a peer to peer pool, but don't expect it to mine much, only worth while if you already have your PC running

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June 06, 2014, 10:52:45 PM
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how to mine it with cpu??? Huh I need some help, and I hope someone can tell me. thanks so much,

You can't mine it with CPU. Mining with GPU is the only method and that generates little income.
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June 06, 2014, 11:09:52 PM
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Honestly, I kept holding because of this dude
http://explorer.vertcoin.org/address/VtE5ZTHgAVrb1iLXMhjy9RDF3Eu6JmaRCq

He bought over $150,000 worth about a month ago, He never sold so I kept on holding




Are you sure it's not an exchange cold storage ? Smiley.


http://bitinfocharts.com/top-100-richest-vertcoin-addresses.html

number two and four - are probably exchange cold storages, and number one - probably not.


How can you tell that its not an exchange? Because it only has deposits and no withdraws?
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June 07, 2014, 12:45:58 AM
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Read a comment today on Coindesk:

http://www.coindesk.com/facebook-approves-first-cryptocurrency-tipping-apps/


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Vertcoin has potential but got gutted recently when the lead developer left.


Anyone care to explain what the guy meant by that?

i do not know, who can accout for it?? why is the price of the coin so low??/ Shocked

No one has left.
The reason for the price decline is prolly a shitload of scamcoins that absorb the cash from the good coins, if u are honest u always have the asscard in life Wink

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June 07, 2014, 12:54:29 AM
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Hi Vertcoiners

I thought I'd ask this here too as I've been considering mining vert for a little whlie after mining another n-scrypt coin.

Some opinions please.  I currently have 2 Sapphire Dual-X R9 280x cards that I right now arranging to be send back to Amazon due to failing fans on 2 of the original 3 I bought, so I'm now going to be needing some new cards.  I've been mining months even now and I think its still worth GPU mining for a few months yet before the ASIC invade

Suggestions on good mining cards... especially for cards that don't have failing cooling fans in less than 6 months use. I think I'm only getting 2 this time as trying to put 3 in a HAF-XB case meant they ran at 70+ and an 80+ temp. I guess I'm looking at 280x cards maybe 290x depending on monies, I still haven't paid for my rig since prices crashed with the bitcoin price fall in recent month so I'm not over joyed with the prospect of paying out a lot more

Thoughts?
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June 07, 2014, 02:23:01 AM
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Sell them and get a lot of GTX 750 Tis...evga sc are my favorite.
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June 07, 2014, 04:33:47 AM
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WHATS going on with VTC value its like scrapping bottom i been away for 2 weeks for work and i come back to 12000  Cry

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June 07, 2014, 04:49:13 AM
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Sell them and get a lot of GTX 750 Tis...evga sc are my favorite.

What does a 750 ti hash at on N?
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June 07, 2014, 05:02:37 AM
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Sell them and get a lot of GTX 750 Tis...evga sc are my favorite.

What does a 750 ti hash at on N?

Up to 150kH/s
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