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Author Topic: [Antminer S1 Sales open] Price changes daily, now 0.414 BTC for 180GH/s  (Read 346285 times)
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February 05, 2014, 03:08:05 PM
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can you comment on when I might expect my order: 00120140201145100364UPL8jYVT0679 to arrive in Canada?

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February 05, 2014, 03:49:08 PM
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I think that everybody here would appreciate it if someone analyzed Bitmain's wallet to see how many confirmed orders he has backlogged during the holiday.

Doesn't work that way.  They have a unique pay to address for each unique order.



Here is one of the main wallets https://blockchain.info/address/1QB8Ds5KbGYBLQa5RyDQ2sVUeSKWf7qgkZ

Bitmain has only got 1 wallet the unique number gets forward to his main wallet, give me 1 hour to calculate how many since holiday start

Edit since bitmain closed he has had 1284 orders some orders contain up to 30 to 100 ants per order so bitmain has A LOT to ship



Holy shit balls! , if 1 order had 1 antminer ... thats a total of around 256TH =/
I wonder how long its gonna take him to ship these orders out...rofl!

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February 05, 2014, 03:51:11 PM
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Hello guys ,today i got my miner finally from the customers  Shocked , its my first time setting Bitmain miners,and i am going to buy the PSU now, so i just want to get sure that any PSU with 450 W will be good right? , also i will get an antena to make it work in wireless.

is there anything else should i consider ?

Thanks in Advance.

Bro get a bigger PSU.
Something like 600w+

You might want to overclock at some point.

Also make sure it is a good one as power quality matters a lot.
Get a Gold one.

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Mine failed to boot up using a 500W. A fuse just kept blowing in the PSU. Everything fine using a 600W.

BITMAIN stated 360W, I bought a 750W for 2 miners. That makes me worry now... Are there measurements available somewhere? Normal and over clocked?

The watts in use is probably correct. ~360W@180gh/s or ~425W@203gh/s. There are multiple issues. You will have to take into account how many amps the PSU will handle per PCI-e connection. The cheap 500W PSU's I got could not even run with only one board attached due to the automatic fuses in the PSU that shut it down to prevent a burnout as they are not meant for that kind of load.
Using a 750W is really pushing it as you usually lose ~10% effect. You can take a loss of ~7% into account if the PSU is rated platinum which means you are left with about 700W, which is less than what's required to power two miners even without the overclock. You might be able to use it if you turn down the performance a little to reduce the total amount of power needed.
Does that 750W even have 4 separate PCI-e connectors?
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February 05, 2014, 04:11:48 PM
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shipping could be a nightmare come next week....

I hope they know what they are doing. Time will show.

Does that 750W even have 4 separate PCI-e connectors?

Yes. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341052
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February 05, 2014, 04:39:11 PM
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Wow thats a lot of antminers sold. Luckily its from their farm so you should get them quick, lol.

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February 05, 2014, 04:58:29 PM
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Wow thats a lot of antminers sold. Luckily its from their farm so you should get them quick, lol.

Zing!!

Makes me wonder just how many they have!?

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February 05, 2014, 05:15:50 PM
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Lots...


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February 05, 2014, 05:20:08 PM
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shipping could be a nightmare come next week....

I hope they know what they are doing. Time will show.

Does that 750W even have 4 separate PCI-e connectors?

Yes. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341052

The CX750's have 4 PCIe connectors but they are doubled up on only 2 sets of wiring so if you plan to max out the power draw realistically you should be careful not to burn your wires.  A couple pages back there is a photo from someone who burned up the wires on their CX600 which has two connectors on one set of wires.
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February 05, 2014, 05:50:00 PM
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Lots...


LOL, that picture is much less than a minimun of 1284 antminers ...

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February 05, 2014, 05:51:28 PM
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Are you sure? Theres racks in the distance behind, and to the left, and to the right. Also keep in mind its an old picture.

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February 05, 2014, 05:53:58 PM
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Remember that if these antminers are already mining on the network, then when we get them the network difficulty won't be changing much. Which is good for us.
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February 05, 2014, 05:58:03 PM
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shipping could be a nightmare come next week....

I hope they know what they are doing. Time will show.

Does that 750W even have 4 separate PCI-e connectors?

Yes. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341052

The CX750's have 4 PCIe connectors but they are doubled up on only 2 sets of wiring so if you plan to max out the power draw realistically you should be careful not to burn your wires.  A couple pages back there is a photo from someone who burned up the wires on their CX600 which has two connectors on one set of wires.

You're slightly wrong, cyper didn't burn up his cx600m. He was using an extender cable on his cpu power cable and the extender burned up. I'm currently using the same cx600m that has a single pcie with split ends. At default clocks, the psu is holding up well. The wire gets extremely warm but not hot. I don't understand how people read one thing and get it all switched around and post something different. It's like that gossip game kids play where you whisper something in someone's ear and pass it down. So much wrong info by the end of it.
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February 05, 2014, 06:01:55 PM
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Remember that if these antminers are already mining on the network, then when we get them the network difficulty won't be changing much. Which is good for us.

Yep, thats one positive of all this =)   ...if thats the case

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February 05, 2014, 06:31:45 PM
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You're slightly wrong, cyper didn't burn up his cx600m. He was using an extender cable on his cpu power cable and the extender burned up. I'm currently using the same cx600m that has a single pcie with split ends. At default clocks, the psu is holding up well. The wire gets extremely warm but not hot. I don't understand how people read one thing and get it all switched around and post something different. It's like that gossip game kids play where you whisper something in someone's ear and pass it down. So much wrong info by the end of it.

I'm running an overclocked antminer powered by a single strand with two PCI-E ends. Yep, wires are very warm, but not hot.

I couldn't get a single definitive answer as to what ampacity are the AWG18 wires capable of, figures are ranging from 10 to 16 Amps. The lower estimate is enough for a stock clock miner (10 Amps * 3 wires * 12V = 360 Watts). And an overclocked one should draw less than 12 Amps per wire, so also sorta kinda good. But I'm still thinking, it would be a good idea to buy a two-molex-to-PCI-e adapter, cut it and feed a couple more wires (+12V and Gnd) into the power terminals of each blade.
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shipping could be a nightmare come next week....

I hope they know what they are doing. Time will show.

Does that 750W even have 4 separate PCI-e connectors?

Yes. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341052

The CX750's have 4 PCIe connectors but they are doubled up on only 2 sets of wiring so if you plan to max out the power draw realistically you should be careful not to burn your wires.  A couple pages back there is a photo from someone who burned up the wires on their CX600 which has two connectors on one set of wires.

but he bought ZT 750 not CX Wink
it has 4 separate pci-e connectors
anyway for two antminers i think minimum is some good 850W

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February 05, 2014, 07:14:38 PM
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You're slightly wrong, cyper didn't burn up his cx600m. He was using an extender cable on his cpu power cable and the extender burned up. I'm currently using the same cx600m that has a single pcie with split ends. At default clocks, the psu is holding up well. The wire gets extremely warm but not hot. I don't understand how people read one thing and get it all switched around and post something different. It's like that gossip game kids play where you whisper something in someone's ear and pass it down. So much wrong info by the end of it.

I'm running an overclocked antminer powered by a single strand with two PCI-E ends. Yep, wires are very warm, but not hot.

I couldn't get a single definitive answer as to what ampacity are the AWG18 wires capable of, figures are ranging from 10 to 16 Amps. The lower estimate is enough for a stock clock miner (10 Amps * 3 wires * 12V = 360 Watts). And an overclocked one should draw less than 12 Amps per wire, so also sorta kinda good. But I'm still thinking, it would be a good idea to buy a two-molex-to-PCI-e adapter, cut it and feed a couple more wires (+12V and Gnd) into the power terminals of each blade.

I was thinking something like that too. Also wondering the max amps for the 18awg wire but couldn't find straight answer. Based on the warmth of the wire(lol) I would say I might could try 375mhz. I do have a dual-molex to pcie but the pcie side is missing 1 yellow wire. I also have a single molex to pcie and it has two yellow wires coming out one pin on the molex side and then one of those is split on the pcie side so it has all 3 yellow wires going to one molex pin lol. I could cut them though. I just got a tx650m in today that I plan to use on my next miner that's coming. I hooked it up for now because I really don't like this cx600m. One of my miners has 2% hardware errors at 400mhz so I may downclock it and put it on the cx600m.
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February 05, 2014, 07:21:09 PM
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We were playing with our kill a watt meter this morning.  And here are some numbers on an non-OC miner.

A miner on a single Corsair CX600 was using 387W.  2 miners each on it's own Corsair CX600 were using 777W.

2 miners on a single Corsair AX1200i uses 722W. 

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February 05, 2014, 08:21:04 PM
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I wonder when bitmain will release their gen miners? This seems like a good for way to clear out their gen 1s.
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February 05, 2014, 08:48:32 PM
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I have a simple question:

S1 purchased before 8th of this month will be shipped all together after 8th ?



Bitmain has stated that orders will be shipped in the order they have been received.
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February 05, 2014, 09:29:08 PM
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Hello guys ,today i got my miner finally from the customers  Shocked , its my first time setting Bitmain miners,and i am going to buy the PSU now, so i just want to get sure that any PSU with 450 W will be good right? , also i will get an antena to make it work in wireless.

is there anything else should i consider ?

Thanks in Advance.

Bro get a bigger PSU.
Something like 600w+

You might want to overclock at some point.

Also make sure it is a good one as power quality matters a lot.
Get a Gold one.

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Mine failed to boot up using a 500W. A fuse just kept blowing in the PSU. Everything fine using a 600W.

BITMAIN stated 360W, I bought a 750W for 2 miners. That makes me worry now... Are there measurements available somewhere? Normal and over clocked?

Depends on how many amps are available on the 12v line on your PSU. A 500 w PSU with a single 12v rail spec'd for 32-33A will likely be ok as it can handle near 400w; one that does 25A will only do 300w will not work. It's all in the specs! However if you have multiple rails on your 12v line you'll need to combine multiple separate rails to power a single ant unit or several any units (i.e. 12v1 [30a]+ 12v2 [30a] = ok. 12v1[30a] + 12v1[30a] = overload).  

Here is an example of a 860W 80plus platinum powersupply that'll work just fine for 2 units:
http://www.corsair.com/us/power-supply-units/ax-series-power-supply-units/ax860i-digital-atx-power-supply-860-watt-80-plus-platinum-certified-fully-modular-psu.html

and one that is 1200w 80plus platinum that will require power from multiple different rails:
http://www.enermax.com/home.php?fn=eng/product_a1_1_2&lv0=1&lv1=52&no=174

Notes:
Stock power consumption is approx 360w and approx 400w-ish for OC power consumption.

Someone feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

P.S. a Corsair CX-500 will work just fine with 1 ant miner (42A on the 12v line; same as the CX-600).
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