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Author Topic: [Antminer S1 Sales open] Price changes daily, now 0.414 BTC for 180GH/s  (Read 346282 times)
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February 14, 2014, 08:36:29 PM
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Hello  Wink

Limited S1 units will be in sotck soon.
Open sales on Feb 14th 11:00 pm BeiJing time, GMT +8.
Shipment within 48 hours after full payment.



sold out again Wink
all orders will be shipped out on Feb.16.

next batch of S1 units will be stock on Feb 15th, open sales on Feb 15th 11:00 pm BeiJing time, GMT +8.

Sold out my ass.
There were a hundred people here constantly refreshing and trying to order one and nobody got the chance to.

Will there really be more for sale tomorrow?
And if there is at what price?

Because ordering tomorrow doesn't get in our possession until Thursday (if we are lucky) but by then the difficulty has increased.
The same goes for the ones who supposedly ordered all of the machines today.

How are the Ants going to make ROI from now on?

 


Then please dont order any.


"These droids are not the droids your looking for."  move along.

har har har, you are so wise hero member...

tell us, how is your 1.45BTC miner ordered today received by Tuesday (if you are lucky) gonna break even when by the time you receive it, it only makes 0.0276 per day and about 3 weeks after that it makes only 0.02208? and three weeks after that 0.017664, 0.0141312, 0.01130496, 0.009043968... and so on....

It will take you 12 weeks to reach an amount of 1.710976 - given the facts that it works non stop and properly -
PLUS that doesn't include power costs.
So tell us, Wise oh Wise Hero Member, where are the droids we are looking for?


EDIT: The estimates given above are for only a 20% difficulty increase
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February 14, 2014, 08:55:30 PM
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Hello  Wink

Limited S1 units will be in sotck soon.
Open sales on Feb 14th 11:00 pm BeiJing time, GMT +8.
Shipment within 48 hours after full payment.



sold out again Wink
all orders will be shipped out on Feb.16.

next batch of S1 units will be stock on Feb 15th, open sales on Feb 15th 11:00 pm BeiJing time, GMT +8.

Sold out my ass.
There were a hundred people here constantly refreshing and trying to order one and nobody got the chance to.

Will there really be more for sale tomorrow?
And if there is at what price?

Because ordering tomorrow doesn't get in our possession until Thursday (if we are lucky) but by then the difficulty has increased.
The same goes for the ones who supposedly ordered all of the machines today.

How are the Ants going to make ROI from now on?

 


Then please dont order any.


"These droids are not the droids your looking for."  move along.

har har har, you are so wise hero member...

tell us, how is your 1.45BTC miner ordered today received by Tuesday (if you are lucky) gonna break even when by the time you receive it, it only makes 0.0276 per day and about 3 weeks after that it makes only 0.02208? and three weeks after that 0.017664, 0.0141312, 0.01130496, 0.009043968... and so on....

It will take you 12 weeks to reach an amount of 1.710976 - given the facts that it works non stop and properly -
PLUS that doesn't include power costs.
So tell us, Wise oh Wise Hero Member, where are the droids we are looking for?


EDIT: The estimates given above are for only a 20% difficulty increase

Only in btc land can someone be upset about hitting positive ROI in 3 months time.  Plus there is never a shortage of people who will buy that miner off you in 3 months for more than it will mine for the rest of its life.  So yes, I would say it sounds like a good investment, hence why I have 16.

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February 14, 2014, 09:04:15 PM
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Hello  Wink

Limited S1 units will be in sotck soon.
Open sales on Feb 14th 11:00 pm BeiJing time, GMT +8.
Shipment within 48 hours after full payment.



sold out again Wink
all orders will be shipped out on Feb.16.

next batch of S1 units will be stock on Feb 15th, open sales on Feb 15th 11:00 pm BeiJing time, GMT +8.

Sold out my ass.
There were a hundred people here constantly refreshing and trying to order one and nobody got the chance to.

Will there really be more for sale tomorrow?
And if there is at what price?

Because ordering tomorrow doesn't get in our possession until Thursday (if we are lucky) but by then the difficulty has increased.
The same goes for the ones who supposedly ordered all of the machines today.

How are the Ants going to make ROI from now on?

 


Then please dont order any.


"These droids are not the droids your looking for."  move along.

har har har, you are so wise hero member...

tell us, how is your 1.45BTC miner ordered today received by Tuesday (if you are lucky) gonna break even when by the time you receive it, it only makes 0.0276 per day and about 3 weeks after that it makes only 0.02208? and three weeks after that 0.017664, 0.0141312, 0.01130496, 0.009043968... and so on....

It will take you 12 weeks to reach an amount of 1.710976 - given the facts that it works non stop and properly -
PLUS that doesn't include power costs.
So tell us, Wise oh Wise Hero Member, where are the droids we are looking for?


EDIT: The estimates given above are for only a 20% difficulty increase

Only in btc land can someone be upset about hitting positive ROI in 3 months time.  Plus there is never a shortage of people who will buy that miner off you in 3 months for more than it will mine for the rest of its life.  So yes, I would say it sounds like a good investment, hence why I have 16.

I couldn't agree with you more, but the issue here is that Bitmain has to lower their prices in order to remain (at the top) in the market and competitive.
Otherwise it wouldn't be profitable for me to get an Antminer for 1.45BTC now.
Their competitors have lowered their prices, and today when we were all expecting to grab a couple of Ants (at a lower price) and nothing happened and we get a post that they are all sold out!!!!!
WHEN?Huh
I was behind this all the time!

Anyway, I believe that Bitmain should lower their prices to match the competition also given the facts that 3 days from now the difficulty will increase and no machines will be delivered before that,
It is a fair request I believe.
That was my point in the first place  Wink
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February 14, 2014, 09:15:44 PM
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It will take you 12 weeks to reach an amount of 1.710976 - given the facts that it works non stop and properly -
PLUS that doesn't include power costs.
So tell us, Wise oh Wise Hero Member, where are the droids we are looking for?


EDIT: The estimates given above are for only a 20% difficulty increase


17% on top of ROI in 12 weeks... name another investment where you can get those kinds of returns!

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February 14, 2014, 09:18:27 PM
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I couldn't agree with you more, but the issue here is that Bitmain has to lower their prices in order to remain (at the top) in the market and competitive.
Otherwise it wouldn't be profitable for me to get an Antminer for 1.45BTC now.
Their competitors have lowered their prices, and today when we were all expecting to grab a couple of Ants (at a lower price) and nothing happened and we get a post that they are all sold out!!!!!
WHEN?Huh
I was behind this all the time!

Anyway, I believe that Bitmain should lower their prices to match the competition also given the facts that 3 days from now the difficulty will increase and no machines will be delivered before that,
It is a fair request I believe.
That was my point in the first place  Wink
So then why do you not go and buy from the competitors then? Obviously Bitmain still has something on them or you wouldn't still be here whining about it.

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February 14, 2014, 09:24:45 PM
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Shipment release pending review...Is this normal?


Hardly anyone speaks English on this forum.
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February 14, 2014, 09:25:49 PM
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Yes normal.

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February 14, 2014, 09:43:18 PM
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Their competitors have lowered their prices, and today when we were all expecting to grab a couple of Ants (at a lower price) and nothing happened and we get a post that they are all sold out!!!!!
WHEN?Huh
I was behind this all the time!

Anyway, I believe that Bitmain should lower their prices to match the competition also given the facts that 3 days from now the difficulty will increase and no machines will be delivered before that,
It is a fair request I believe.
That was my point in the first place  Wink

What competition do you speak of that currently sells stock on hand for less that Bitmain should be price matching?





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February 14, 2014, 09:45:33 PM
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Their competitors have lowered their prices, and today when we were all expecting to grab a couple of Ants (at a lower price) and nothing happened and we get a post that they are all sold out!!!!!
WHEN?Huh
I was behind this all the time!

Anyway, I believe that Bitmain should lower their prices to match the competition also given the facts that 3 days from now the difficulty will increase and no machines will be delivered before that,
It is a fair request I believe.
That was my point in the first place  Wink

What competition do you speak of that currently sells stock on hand for less that Bitmain should be price matching?



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February 14, 2014, 10:36:22 PM
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Oh WOW,

I am flattered by the fact that my post had so many responses...

Thank you all, and also for your kind words.

However NONE of you has answered my question because ALL of you are UNABLE to......

WHEN is Bitmain going to lower their prices to make it more "profitable" for us given the upcoming difficulty changes?


Once again thank you all for being so fabulous and pointing out that I am out of order here....

I couldn't be more grateful....



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February 14, 2014, 10:41:16 PM
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Oh WOW,

I am flattered by the fact that my post had so many responses...

Thank you all, and also for your kind words.

However NONE of you has answered my question because ALL of you are UNABLE to......

WHEN is Bitmain going to lower their prices to make it more "profitable" for us given the upcoming difficulty changes?


Once again thank you all for being so fabulous and pointing out that I am out of order here....

I couldn't be more grateful....
Yeah Bitmain, when are you going to run your business into the ground so we can make more roi, roi, ROI!

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February 14, 2014, 11:04:08 PM
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Oh WOW,

I am flattered by the fact that my post had so many responses...

Thank you all, and also for your kind words.

However NONE of you has answered my question because ALL of you are UNABLE to......

WHEN is Bitmain going to lower their prices to make it more "profitable" for us given the upcoming difficulty changes?


Once again thank you all for being so fabulous and pointing out that I am out of order here....

I couldn't be more grateful....


As I said before, I doubt they would plan on lowering the price at least before another big batch. Even at 1.45 it's still the best value out there, and should be quite profitable.

That's using the estimated next growth with a little extra fudge factor, bringing it up to 3.1B. It's also starting at 25% growth per jump, even though the last two were 22.59% and 19.49%, and this one will be 17-18%. Even with those reasonable assumptions, it shows a breakeven in early May. I'm not a huge fan of online profit calculators, but even at 1.45BTC the S1's will be profitable. It just won't be as profitable as some of the other batches. I have enough hardware that I don't want to take on anymore from this generation, but I think I might be marginally interested at this price. Not enough to expand my farm though.

Unfortunately, they're in the business of making money, and only help up make a profit insofar as it helps them make money. If they can sell out their current stock at 1.45, there's no reason to lower the price no mattre how much we may want it.
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February 14, 2014, 11:22:42 PM
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Oh WOW,

I am flattered by the fact that my post had so many responses...

Thank you all, and also for your kind words.

However NONE of you has answered my question because ALL of you are UNABLE to......

WHEN is Bitmain going to lower their prices to make it more "profitable" for us given the upcoming difficulty changes?


Once again thank you all for being so fabulous and pointing out that I am out of order here....

I couldn't be more grateful....


As I said before, I doubt they would plan on lowering the price at least before another big batch. Even at 1.45 it's still the best value out there, and should be quite profitable.

That's using the estimated next growth with a little extra fudge factor, bringing it up to 3.1B. It's also starting at 25% growth per jump, even though the last two were 22.59% and 19.49%, and this one will be 17-18%. Even with those reasonable assumptions, it shows a breakeven in early May. I'm not a huge fan of online profit calculators, but even at 1.45BTC the S1's will be profitable. It just won't be as profitable as some of the other batches. I have enough hardware that I don't want to take on anymore from this generation, but I think I might be marginally interested at this price. Not enough to expand my farm though.

Unfortunately, they're in the business of making money, and only help up make a profit insofar as it helps them make money. If they can sell out their current stock at 1.45, there's no reason to lower the price no mattre how much we may want it.


Finally, a real response!

Thanks bro.

Though I think they should lower their price since AvalonShenzhen has already dropped their price on the 220GH to 1.1BTC.

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February 14, 2014, 11:45:25 PM
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What I feel really annoyed about is the fact that I have got coupons to use but I am unable to use them due to the stock issue that they had today.

Bitmain can you please update your fellow customers on what your plans are and what can be done.

Thank you
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February 14, 2014, 11:48:46 PM
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Oh WOW,

I am flattered by the fact that my post had so many responses...

Thank you all, and also for your kind words.

However NONE of you has answered my question because ALL of you are UNABLE to......

WHEN is Bitmain going to lower their prices to make it more "profitable" for us given the upcoming difficulty changes?


Once again thank you all for being so fabulous and pointing out that I am out of order here....

I couldn't be more grateful....


As I said before, I doubt they would plan on lowering the price at least before another big batch. Even at 1.45 it's still the best value out there, and should be quite profitable.

That's using the estimated next growth with a little extra fudge factor, bringing it up to 3.1B. It's also starting at 25% growth per jump, even though the last two were 22.59% and 19.49%, and this one will be 17-18%. Even with those reasonable assumptions, it shows a breakeven in early May. I'm not a huge fan of online profit calculators, but even at 1.45BTC the S1's will be profitable. It just won't be as profitable as some of the other batches. I have enough hardware that I don't want to take on anymore from this generation, but I think I might be marginally interested at this price. Not enough to expand my farm though.

Unfortunately, they're in the business of making money, and only help up make a profit insofar as it helps them make money. If they can sell out their current stock at 1.45, there's no reason to lower the price no mattre how much we may want it.


Finally, a real response!

Thanks bro.

Though I think they should lower their price since AvalonShenzhen has already dropped their price on the 220GH to 1.1BTC.



Well that would only make sense if you have free power and don't mind buying a more expensive PSU.
It's all supply and demand..
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February 14, 2014, 11:50:03 PM
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Well that would only make sense if you have free power and don't mind buying a more expensive PSU.
It's all supply and demand..

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February 15, 2014, 12:03:31 AM
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Make that 2 psu's. You need 2 x 650 or 2 x 750 if you want to overclock.

lets not even talk about the shitty build quality of the Avalons. Smiley

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February 15, 2014, 12:08:10 AM
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Probably a dumb question, but I want to be sure I don't fry my Antman's:

This space I have set up, should be relatively static-free right?

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February 15, 2014, 12:31:34 AM
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Ahh Avalon.. they are dead to me and should be dead to you as well.

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February 15, 2014, 12:31:37 AM
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The shelf looks fine. Just be aware if the floor is carpeted that you should be careful and discharge any static electricity before touching your gear. Wink

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