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it  won't return the investment in terms of increasing Dash's value because these people don't have very much money.

If each person has just a few dollars, even tens of millions of them are fairly insignificant really.

I think you are missing the point to a capitalist economy in general.  Its not about serving the richest people in the world who have already made a fortune, it should really be about enabling growth especially in parts of the world where it is currently restricted or underserved for various reasons.

The majority of wealth in the world orbits around politics and military strength.   The very poorest people who you discard as insignificant importance have one important characteristic even the largest of companies and wealth cannot challenge which is the potential for growth.  The very smallest entities in an economy always represent the fastest possible growth and because there are millions of them this effect can be massive and game changing and justify all of that crypto network allowing them to proceed despite being normally disadvantaged in a world biased to the largest scales of economy

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Dash trading volume is increasing. If devs keep improving the src and solve scalability problem it will always remain one of the best coins to  hold
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September 06, 2018, 10:21:15 PM

it  won't return the investment in terms of increasing Dash's value because these people don't have very much money.

If each person has just a few dollars, even tens of millions of them are fairly insignificant really.

I think you are missing the point to a capitalist economy in general.  Its not about serving the richest people in the world who have already made a fortune, it should really be about enabling growth especially in parts of the world where it is currently restricted or underserved for various reasons.

The majority of wealth in the world orbits around politics and military strength.   The very poorest people who you discard as insignificant importance have one important characteristic even the largest of companies and wealth cannot challenge which is the potential for growth.  The very smallest entities in an economy always represent the fastest possible growth and because there are millions of them this effect can be massive and game changing and justify all of that crypto network allowing them to proceed despite being normally disadvantaged in a world biased to the largest scales of economy

No, YOU'RE missing the point. Capitalism is about managing capital. It's about rewarding the productive and punishing the unproductive. Not all, but many of the "underserved" are net leeches who consuming wealth. Not all rich people deserve their wealth and not all poor people deserve their poverty, but over time the productive get wealthier and the unproductive get poorer generally in a free economy. 

Those greedy capitalists are giving those poor people jobs, and it's their capital that makes the poor more productive, for the same reason a backhoe driver is more productive than a guy with a shovel. They did it because they saved (or somebody did) when others spent.

The Venezuelans and the Zimbabweans ELECTED those thieves originally because they only thaught the thief/politicians would steal from the rich. Well guess what? They stole from everybody they could. That's what thieves do, and it's hard to feel sorry for them as a group. SOME were unfairly punished, but punishing me when I saved doesn't mean more justice. It means less. You wanna fight poverty? Don't be poor. It's a great first step.

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I think Fluffypony is a pretentious pompous ass,

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edit: watch out billy boy, icey owns the conversation on this thread

He's never tried to censor my speech and he's never called me "billy boy", so he's got more class than you or the Dash Mafia as far as I'm concerned.

I'm ofended by your post.
Go play the victim somewhere else, this is bitcointalkshow where you can sometimes go to, when you're bored to see icehole doing his low-grade, low-paid job.
On the side note, if you want to have a good conversation, please visit our discord. Everyone is there as far as I'm concerned  Wink

Your offense is my amusement. Your echo chamber can't protect you from the market.

What? Stop please.
Btw sarcasm much?  Roll Eyes

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I think this is an interesting debate.

I think most of the crypto people are fom US and Europe. We all have tech instruction. Probably with a job and a stable life.

But for the people of Venezuela or Zimbabwe this is real. This crypto movement are affecting and improving his real day to day life.

We are witnessing the implementation of the cryto in real world. It's happening now in these countries.  And probably this poor countries will lead us (with all contradictions and problems) in our own crypto adoption.

I'm not here for my personal profit. I want the crypto to help and improve peoples lives. And i'm happy DASH is an important part of it.  

just my 2 cents.


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Atomic Wallet News is great. It was recently chosen as one of the most notable coins.
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I think this is an interesting debate.

I think most of the crypto people are fom US and Europe. We all have tech instruction. Probably with a job and a stable life.

But for the people of Venezuela or Zimbabwe this is real. This crypto movement are affecting and improving his real day to day life.

We are witnessing the implementation of the cryto in real world. It's happening now in these countries.  And probably this poor countries will lead us (with all contradictions and problems) in our own crypto adoption.

I'm not here for my personal profit. I want the crypto to help and improve peoples lives. And i'm happy DASH is an important part of it.  

just my 2 cents.

There is no conflict between personal profit and improving people's lives in a free market. Profit is the reward entrepreneurs get for serving their fellow man efficiently. In real capitalism, every trade is win-win because if it wasn't it wouldn't happen.


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Cool will be very interesting seeing how this develops. The host looks like he's in a UFO  Cheesy
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I think this is an interesting debate.

I think most of the crypto people are fom US and Europe. We all have tech instruction. Probably with a job and a stable life.

But for the people of Venezuela or Zimbabwe this is real. This crypto movement are affecting and improving his real day to day life.

We are witnessing the implementation of the cryto in real world. It's happening now in these countries.  And probably this poor countries will lead us (with all contradictions and problems) in our own crypto adoption.

I'm not here for my personal profit. I want the crypto to help and improve peoples lives. And i'm happy DASH is an important part of it.  

just my 2 cents.

There is no conflict between personal profit and improving people's lives in a free market. Profit is the reward entrepreneurs get for serving their fellow man efficiently. In real capitalism, every trade is win-win because if it wasn't it wouldn't happen.



But then why are you against Dash in VZ? Its win win. As I said before you seem like someone desperate to find reasons you are right to be bearish when you sold Dash at the bottom.

Dash taking off in VZ is good for Dash and good for the people of VZ who have an outlet from their national currency which is going down the toilet. Do you agree?
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I think this is an interesting debate.

I think most of the crypto people are fom US and Europe. We all have tech instruction. Probably with a job and a stable life.

But for the people of Venezuela or Zimbabwe this is real. This crypto movement are affecting and improving his real day to day life.

We are witnessing the implementation of the cryto in real world. It's happening now in these countries.  And probably this poor countries will lead us (with all contradictions and problems) in our own crypto adoption.

I'm not here for my personal profit. I want the crypto to help and improve peoples lives. And i'm happy DASH is an important part of it.  

just my 2 cents.

There is no conflict between personal profit and improving people's lives in a free market. Profit is the reward entrepreneurs get for serving their fellow man efficiently. In real capitalism, every trade is win-win because if it wasn't it wouldn't happen.



But then why are you against Dash in VZ? Its win win. As I said before you seem like someone desperate to find reasons you are right to be bearish when you sold Dash at the bottom.

Dash taking off in VZ is good for Dash and good for the people of VZ who have an outlet from their national currency which is going down the toilet. Do you agree?

...and there are others (coins) competing hard for same market. Are they stupid too? DASH is just doing best there.
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Those greedy capitalists are giving those poor people jobs, and it's their capital that makes the poor more productive, for the same reason a backhoe driver is more productive than a guy with a shovel. They did it because they saved (or somebody did) when others spent.

The Venezuelans and the Zimbabweans ELECTED those thieves originally because they only thaught the thief/politicians would steal from the rich. Well guess what? They stole from everybody they could. That's what thieves do, and it's hard to feel sorry for them as a group. SOME were unfairly punished, but punishing me when I saved doesn't mean more justice. It means less. You wanna fight poverty? Don't be poor. It's a great first step.

I dont see capitalism as a system of justice, I'm not against it because obviously it works out alot better then a fixed system such as a military dictatorship or any command economy.  It also works better then socialism which is where many people are surprised.
But theres no justice in capitalism, its just about the system serving efficiency more then any person or section of society.   If someone can serve and produce a cheaper price then they will profit from what long term must be a more efficient way of handling that business.
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I would argue poor can be a description for the performance or quality of a service also.  Do your job diligently and with the lowest amount of waste can be argued as a counter to poorly conducted business

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I think this is an interesting debate.

I think most of the crypto people are fom US and Europe. We all have tech instruction. Probably with a job and a stable life.

But for the people of Venezuela or Zimbabwe this is real. This crypto movement are affecting and improving his real day to day life.

We are witnessing the implementation of the cryto in real world. It's happening now in these countries.  And probably this poor countries will lead us (with all contradictions and problems) in our own crypto adoption.

I'm not here for my personal profit. I want the crypto to help and improve peoples lives. And i'm happy DASH is an important part of it.  

just my 2 cents.

There is no conflict between personal profit and improving people's lives in a free market. Profit is the reward entrepreneurs get for serving their fellow man efficiently. In real capitalism, every trade is win-win because if it wasn't it wouldn't happen.



But then why are you against Dash in VZ? Its win win. As I said before you seem like someone desperate to find reasons you are right to be bearish when you sold Dash at the bottom.

Dash taking off in VZ is good for Dash and good for the people of VZ who have an outlet from their national currency which is going down the toilet. Do you agree?

I'm not against Dash in VZ, but I am against spending too much treasury there because I think it's a good possibility we are just fattening up the sheep for Maduro to sheer. Or skin. Their currency isn't "going down the toilet" accidentally. This is what happens when theft becomes a country's top industry.

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I think this is an interesting debate.

I think most of the crypto people are fom US and Europe. We all have tech instruction. Probably with a job and a stable life.

But for the people of Venezuela or Zimbabwe this is real. This crypto movement are affecting and improving his real day to day life.

We are witnessing the implementation of the cryto in real world. It's happening now in these countries.  And probably this poor countries will lead us (with all contradictions and problems) in our own crypto adoption.

I'm not here for my personal profit. I want the crypto to help and improve peoples lives. And i'm happy DASH is an important part of it.  

just my 2 cents.

There is no conflict between personal profit and improving people's lives in a free market. Profit is the reward entrepreneurs get for serving their fellow man efficiently. In real capitalism, every trade is win-win because if it wasn't it wouldn't happen.



But then why are you against Dash in VZ? Its win win. As I said before you seem like someone desperate to find reasons you are right to be bearish when you sold Dash at the bottom.

Dash taking off in VZ is good for Dash and good for the people of VZ who have an outlet from their national currency which is going down the toilet. Do you agree?

I'm not against Dash in VZ, but I am against spending too much treasury there because I think it's a good possibility we are just fattening up the sheep for Maduro to sheer. Or skin. Their currency isn't "going down the toilet" accidentally. This is what happens when theft becomes a country's top industry.

Compared to other marketing campaigns,  the VZ proposals are relatively small and has serious potential.
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I dont see capitalism as a system of justice, I'm not against it because obviously it works out alot better then a fixed system such as a military dictatorship or any command economy.  It also works better then socialism which is where many people are surprised.
But theres no justice in capitalism, its just about the system serving efficiency more then any person or section of society.   If someone can serve and produce a cheaper price then they will profit from what long term must be a more efficient way of handling that business.


So if there is no system that is more just, then capitalism is the best we've got. "Fair" is a completely subjective term anyway. Is it fair that I can't be a pro basketball player no matter how hard I practice because I'm too short and lack the natural talent?  How lame would it be to watch Bball if it WAS more fair? (actually we know. It would be the WNBA).  

So right. It's not even supposed to be a system of justice, because the only way to make everybody equal is to kill everybody and make us all equally dead.  Anything that works in that direction (like Communism) only differs by a matter of degree.  Capitalism makes most people a little better off and a few people much better off.  Pareto wealth distribution actually remains about the same in every economic and political system. This is because there are a few hyperproductive people in any society, a lot of moderately productive people and some non-productive people.

I'm not saying people who are economically nonproductive have no value. I'm saying they have no economic value. Helping these people should be an individual choice. Helping them with treasury funds is effectively stealing resources from our community to fund the pet charity project of the majority of MNOs at the expense of the minority and other stakeholders.

What if we actually DO prevent a collapse in Venezuela? Doesn't that mean the Communist regime stays in power? Russians are better off after the Soviet Union collapsed. Often things have to get worse before they get better, and I fear that is exactly what needs to happen for the Dash community to see that subsidizing economies based on public and private theft is not a good investment strategy.

There is an old saying: "Charity begins at home". This is because we know better who needs charity and who best deserves help with local information.


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lC5EsFpnW30

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I believe there are many investors who would invest in Dash who don't because they don't like how we spend our money. I can't prove it, but nobody can prove it's not true either unless we stop wasting treasury funds on risky proposals as much. 

Does fattening Maduro's sheep benefit the sheep more than it benefits Maduro? Even if we were funding a political revolution in VZ, is that what treasury funds are for? Or is this Nike-like virtue signaling? Judging by the performance of Nike stock and the price of Dash, it appears similar to me.

MNOs have a fiduciary obligation to all Dash holders to maximize trading price on a long term time scale. I believe we are failing them.

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