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Wow, billy just went full troll. So much for the pretend...
Trolls : they can't live with Dash and they can't live without Dash

There must not be much traffic on that uncensored reddit thread that Monero trolls created, that even billy boy is actively promoting it.
Don't you trolls have a Dash Classic thread to promote somewhere also?  Oh wait, you guys did renew that site right?

Oh dear, its seems rather dead : https://www.dashclassic.net/
only thing left is this R.I.P thread : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1335693.0


Do you not have faith that new Dashers can discern trolling from legit criticism?  There is a name for news that omits anything negative, even if that news is relevant and important. That name is "propaganda".

Yes, there is trolling on r/dashuncensored. Yes there is criticism for which there is legitimate counterarguments, but r/dashpay and the other moderated forums are doing a DISSERVICE to Dash users by deleting, censoring and banning because you don't agree with something.  In a free society, bad speech is fought with good speech, not censorship. 

If you wanna be an uncritical fanboi, that's your right. If you wanna be a glaze-eyed cultist who polices "badthink", then I am not going to let that go without comment.  Dash is a great project with amazing technology, but all projects have problems. All projects have areas that need improvement and Dash is no different.  When your advocacy interferes with needed improvements, I have an issue with that. New dashers deserve the whole truth, not just the approved sales pitch. 

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By all means billyboy, promote that Monero "uncensored" Dash thread all you want in here,
it will just end up dead anyways because people will see right through it.

So now your polling proposal has pretty much failed, i assume you will act on your intention
to look for another project ? It would certainly explain a few things..

https://www.dashcentral.org/p/Commitment-to-Improve-Funding-Model
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My plan? if this passes, continue to make small experiments and to scale up when they work and to support anyone else working to fix this problem. If this or other or better decision proposals DON'T pass, then the plan is to reduce my exposure to Dash, as in start selling my MNO service rewards and stop recommending it so enthusiastically to others and eventually if nothing is done look for a better project."

I'm just wondering how committed you really are to Dash at this point.

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August 29, 2018, 10:15:54 PM

By all means billyboy, promote that Monero "uncensored" Dash thread all you want in here,
it will just end up dead anyways because people will see right through it.

So now your polling proposal has pretty much failed, i assume you will act on your intention
to look for another project ? It would certainly explain a few things..

https://www.dashcentral.org/p/Commitment-to-Improve-Funding-Model
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My plan? if this passes, continue to make small experiments and to scale up when they work and to support anyone else working to fix this problem. If this or other or better decision proposals DON'T pass, then the plan is to reduce my exposure to Dash, as in start selling my MNO service rewards and stop recommending it so enthusiastically to others and eventually if nothing is done look for a better project."

I'm just wondering how committed you really are to Dash at this point.


the prop https://www.dashcentral.org/p/Commitment-to-Improve-Funding-Model is winning 192/133 as of this writing.  My commitment to Dash is NOT absolute, and I fail to see why it should be absolute unless one is an uncritical fundamentalist maximalist permabull cultist.  I will stay with Dash as long as it is the best investment in the cryptosphere I can find and not longer. Do you expect investors to do otherwise? What in your experience leads you to believe that will happen?

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By all means billyboy, promote that Monero "uncensored" Dash thread all you want in here,
it will just end up dead anyways because people will see right through it.

So now your polling proposal has pretty much failed, i assume you will act on your intention
to look for another project ? It would certainly explain a few things..

https://www.dashcentral.org/p/Commitment-to-Improve-Funding-Model
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My plan? if this passes, continue to make small experiments and to scale up when they work and to support anyone else working to fix this problem. If this or other or better decision proposals DON'T pass, then the plan is to reduce my exposure to Dash, as in start selling my MNO service rewards and stop recommending it so enthusiastically to others and eventually if nothing is done look for a better project."

I'm just wondering how committed you really are to Dash at this point.


the prop https://www.dashcentral.org/p/Commitment-to-Improve-Funding-Model is winning 192/133 as of this writing.  My commitment to Dash is NOT absolute, and I fail to see why it should be absolute unless one is an uncritical fundamentalist maximalist permabull cultist.  I will stay with Dash as long as it is the best investment in the cryptosphere I can find and not longer. Do you expect investors to do otherwise? What in your experience leads you to believe that will happen?

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I exspect investors not to pull out of Dash if their polling proposal fails, but you stated the exact opposite which makes me question
your motives right now.

Of course you promoting a Monero created Reddit uncensored Dash thread, does not exactly help with that perception.
(Its not very smart of dnale0r to create that thread with his own name, as he is rather known as a Monero member. But then again Monero trolls in general are not very smart )

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I exspect investors not pull out of Dash if their polling proposal fails, but you stated the exact opposite which makes me question
your motives right now.

Of course you promoting a Monero created Reddit uncensored Dash thread, does not exactly help in that perception.

Did you even read what I wrote that you quoted?

"My plan? if this passes, continue to make small experiments and to scale up when they work and to support anyone else working to fix this problem. If this or other or better decision proposals DON'T pass, then the plan is to reduce my exposure to Dash, as in start selling my MNO service rewards and stop recommending it so enthusiastically to others and eventually if nothing is done look for a better project."

This is a transparent attempt to spin me, a masternode owner and person who has spent my own time and money in attempting to bring awareness to an important issue, as a hater. You are free to disagree with my suggested improvements and to propose your own if you like, but this is exactly the sort of badthink-policing that drives away investors.

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I exspect investors not pull out of Dash if their polling proposal fails, but you stated the exact opposite which makes me question
your motives right now.

Of course you promoting a Monero created Reddit uncensored Dash thread, does not exactly help in that perception.

Did you even read what I wrote that you quoted?

"My plan? if this passes, continue to make small experiments and to scale up when they work and to support anyone else working to fix this problem. If this or other or better decision proposals DON'T pass, then the plan is to reduce my exposure to Dash, as in start selling my MNO service rewards and stop recommending it so enthusiastically to others and eventually if nothing is done look for a better project."

This is a transparent attempt to spin me, a masternode owner and person who has spent my own time and money in attempting to bring awareness to an important issue, as a hater. You are free to disagree with my suggested improvements and to propose your own if you like, but this is exactly the sort of badthink-policing that drives away investors.

Pls stop promoting Monero created troll threads like the one from dnale0r, a well knowm member of the Monero community.
Also known to troll this Dash forum.



If you keep doing it anyways, then i have no choice then indeed consider you a troll.

I dont care about the dissident reddit thread you created, you can promote that all you want, but the Monero troll thread
should not be promoted in here. Period.

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August 29, 2018, 10:52:45 PM

So new guys, this is what you can expect from the "welcoming" Dash community. Any concerns you have can be written off as concern-trolling. Any improvements can be attacked as an attempt to destroy Dash as we know it. You motivations may and in my view likely WILL be questioned. Your loyalty will be challenged. You can and I think probably will be pilloried, harassed, attacked, questioned, and vilified for trying to HELP. Your ability to contribute or help will likely be dismissed. Your willingness to make substantive improvements will not be appreciated. If you do anything other than parrot the party line or cheer-lead and join in the bullying, you may face the same hostility I have faced and am facing.  I am not alone. This has happened many times, and r/dashcensored contains only a partial sample of others with similar experiences.

You deserve to know this.


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So new guys, this is what you can expect from the "welcoming" Dash community. Any concerns you have can be written off as concern-trolling. Any improvements can be attacked as an attempt to destroy Dash as we know it. You motivations may and in my view likely WILL be questioned. Your loyalty will be challenged. You can and I think probably will be pilloried, harassed, attacked, questioned, and vilified for trying to HELP. Your ability to contribute or help will likely be dismissed. Your willingness to make substantive improvements will not be appreciated. If you do anything other than parrot the party line or cheer-lead and join in the bullying, you may face the same hostility I have faced and am facing.  I am not alone. This has happened many times, and r/dashcensored contains only a partial sample of others with similar experiences.

You deserve to know this.



I'm not the one promoting Monero troll threads....

dnale0r if you reading this (i'm sure you are) : maybe next time use your brain and not start an uncensored Dash thread .. in.. your.. own .. name !!
Its gotta be the dumbest move ever.

Link : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=89388


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So new guys, this is what you can expect from the "welcoming" Dash community. Any concerns you have can be written off as concern-trolling. Any improvements can be attacked as an attempt to destroy Dash as we know it. You motivations may and in my view likely WILL be questioned. Your loyalty will be challenged. You can and I think probably will be pilloried, harassed, attacked, questioned, and vilified for trying to HELP. Your ability to contribute or help will likely be dismissed. Your willingness to make substantive improvements will not be appreciated. If you do anything other than parrot the party line or cheer-lead and join in the bullying, you may face the same hostility I have faced and am facing.  I am not alone. This has happened many times, and r/dashcensored contains only a partial sample of others with similar experiences.

You deserve to know this.



I'm not the one promoting Monero troll threads....

The reason for the continued existence or r/dashuncensored is not Monero trolls and haterz. It's you and your cult of crimethink-policing censors.  Problem number ONE in dash is in my opinion Pay and Pray. Problem #2 is you.  Have you no self-awareness at all? Can you not see the damage you are causing?

Monero is in my view an INFERIOR but interesting project, with many of the same goals as Dash. It's not the boogieman. There are Dash haterz there. There is stiff competition. There is even some dirty dealing and acting in bad faith, but Monero isn't half the threat to Dash that you are. You are acting like a bunch of tin-foil hat wearing conspiracy nuts. This does not make Dash attractive to normal investors.

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So new guys, this is what you can expect from the "welcoming" Dash community. Any concerns you have can be written off as concern-trolling. Any improvements can be attacked as an attempt to destroy Dash as we know it. You motivations may and in my view likely WILL be questioned. Your loyalty will be challenged. You can and I think probably will be pilloried, harassed, attacked, questioned, and vilified for trying to HELP. Your ability to contribute or help will likely be dismissed. Your willingness to make substantive improvements will not be appreciated. If you do anything other than parrot the party line or cheer-lead and join in the bullying, you may face the same hostility I have faced and am facing.  I am not alone. This has happened many times, and r/dashcensored contains only a partial sample of others with similar experiences.

You deserve to know this.



I'm not the one promoting Monero troll threads....

dnale0r if you reading this (i'm sure you are) : maybe next time use your brain and not start an uncensored Dash thread .. in.. your.. own .. name !!
Its gotta be the dumbest move ever.

Link : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=89388

The reason for the continued existence or r/dashuncensored is not Monero trolls and haterz. It's you and your cult of crimethink-policing censors.  Problem number ONE in dash is in my opinion Pay and Pray. Problem #2 is you.  Have you no self-awareness at all? Can you not see the damage you are causing?

Monero is in my view an INFERIOR but interesting project, with much of the same goals as Dash. It's not the boogieman. There are Dash haterz there. There is stiff competition. There is even some dirty dealing and acting in bad faith, but Monero isn't half the threat to Dash that you are. You are acting like a bunch of tin-foil hat wearing conspiracy nuts. This does not make Dash attractive to normal investors.

Sorry for blowing your troll cover billyboy, maybe you should start over with a new account ? Good to see you are over Tao and are redirecting your frustration towards my humble person. Personally i dont like the #2 spot, can we upgrade it to #1 pretty please ?  Grin

Anyone willingly and knowingly promoting Monero's (dnale0r) r/dashuncensored thread is a troll in my eyes.
That person will loose all credibility.

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So new guys, this is what you can expect from the "welcoming" Dash community. Any concerns you have can be written off as concern-trolling. Any improvements can be attacked as an attempt to destroy Dash as we know it. You motivations may and in my view likely WILL be questioned. Your loyalty will be challenged. You can and I think probably will be pilloried, harassed, attacked, questioned, and vilified for trying to HELP. Your ability to contribute or help will likely be dismissed. Your willingness to make substantive improvements will not be appreciated. If you do anything other than parrot the party line or cheer-lead and join in the bullying, you may face the same hostility I have faced and am facing.  I am not alone. This has happened many times, and r/dashcensored contains only a partial sample of others with similar experiences.

You deserve to know this.



I'm not the one promoting Monero troll threads....

dnale0r if you reading this (i'm sure you are) : maybe next time use your brain and not start an uncensored Dash thread .. in.. your.. own .. name !!
Its gotta be the dumbest move ever.

Link : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=89388

The reason for the continued existence or r/dashuncensored is not Monero trolls and haterz. It's you and your cult of crimethink-policing censors.  Problem number ONE in dash is in my opinion Pay and Pray. Problem #2 is you.  Have you no self-awareness at all? Can you not see the damage you are causing?

Monero is in my view an INFERIOR but interesting project, with much of the same goals as Dash. It's not the boogieman. There are Dash haterz there. There is stiff competition. There is even some dirty dealing and acting in bad faith, but Monero isn't half the threat to Dash that you are. You are acting like a bunch of tin-foil hat wearing conspiracy nuts. This does not make Dash attractive to normal investors.

Sorry for blowing your troll cover billyboy, maybe you should start over with a new account ? Good to see you are over Tao and are redirecting your frustration towards my humble person. Personally i dont like the #2 spot, can we upgrade it to #1 pretty please ?  Grin

Anyone willingly and knowingly promoting Monero's (dnale0r) r/dashuncensored thread is a troll in my eyes.
That person will loose all credibility.

How is it possible you can't see that you are making my point better than I could ever make it on my own?  A claim's validity is independent of the person making it. It wouldn't matter if I was Satan himself because the reason is there along with the evidence that you are providing. You are ascribing motives you can't possibly know to people you have never met. There is a cult at the heart of Dash and as long as it is tolerated by the moderate majority, Dash will not become that which it is otherwise capable of being: Digital Cash for the whole world.

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There it is again, troll's most favourite word to use against Dash : cult
If i could get a Dash for every time i read that word from some troll post, i would have a lot more Dash right now.
Especially Monero trolls seem almost fascinated with that word.

Well it has been fun billyboy, but with your troll cover blown to bits its time to say goodbye.

Say hi to dnale0r from me, tell him i still have fond memories of him trying to disrupt Dash in
real life at the Bitcoin Meeting Amsterdam in 2015. Poor guy got all emotional.
Trolls should know when to quit before making a fool of themself like that   Undecided
That was the first time (and last time) i actually met a troll in real life.

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There it is again, troll's most favourite word to use against Dash : cult
If i could get a Dash for every time i read that word from some troll post, i would have a lot more Dash right now.
Especially Monero trolls seem almost fascinated with that word.

Well it has been fun billyboy, but with your troll cover blown to bits its time to say goodbye.
Say hi to dnale0r from me.

You don't get it. I am not threatened by you. Either you tank the price and prove me right or you pump the price and make me rich. You are an amusing clown.  Do you really think I care if you call me a troll? Dash will likely succeed with or without you, but you will either go away or change your ways first which would be nice or you will provide me with entertainment while I wait, cashing in service rewards the whole time.

So keep it coming if you so desire. I'm making popcorn.

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The most damage initiated by Osama Bin Ladin was not from the three thousand people he murdered but from the overreaction he provoked, the overreaction of George W. Bush and the majority of Americans who supported (at least at first) the Iraq War. The number of soldiers lost was higher than the number of casualties at the World Trade Center and the Penatagon.  The economic damage (estimated to be around a trillion dollars) was greater and the U.S. also lost much of it's standing in the international community.

But was Osama to blame for this overreaction, or was that self-inflicted by the United States? It depends on how you look at it. I see the situation with Dash similarly. Certainly there was and is tribalism in the cryptospace. Certainly there are bad actors. There are obviously people acting dishonestly, deceitfully, and unfairly.  There is disinformation. There is trolling. There are active efforts to deny Dash the credit it is due for real accomplishments.  But in my opinion none of that justifies the overreaction of censorship and this paranoid mentality of persecution.

Haterz gonna hate. Trolls gonna troll. So what? Who told you the world was fair? Your reaction should be to make Dash so much better than the detractor's descriptions that the world has no choice but to see through them. By circling the wagons and refusing to engage, you are playing right into their hands. Name-calling is not an argument. Censorship is not refutation. We are better than this.  It's embarrassing.

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the prop https://www.dashcentral.org/p/Commitment-to-Improve-Funding-Model is winning 192/133 as of this writing.  

You should not count the masternode votes. You should count the INDIVIDUALS/OPERATORS who are hiding behind the masternode votes. Among them, there are certainly spies and agents who are funded by governments and hold a lot of masternodes. Their goal is to destroy the effective governance in dash and to neutralize all the radical members of the community.  The agents want to create a majority of neutrals and stupids in dash (all those who accept as their master/censor the infamous TaoOfSatoshi) . There is an effort to reveal the agents and spies by the way they vote. There is an effort to  introduce voting accountability into the dash community.

Read here:
https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/which-masternodes-voted-and-what-exactly-voted-on-various-proposals-v2.34403/#post-195834

Download the script and run it. Or, in case you cannot, observe the uploaded results file and investigate/discover how many individuals voted for your proposal, and how many against it (an indication for this is to sort the html table by votehash)

Many interesting statistics can be discovered in the results.html file.  For example of those who voted NO in your proposal and they are recorded in the uploaded file (133) the 122 also voted NO to demote ryan-talor. Additionaly 47 voted NO the very last minute, and now the NO votes are 180 (but they are not recorded in the currently uploaded results.html file, so someone has to run the script again and upload the accurate results. I run the script and from 122/133 it is now 169/180).

Instead of spending 5 dash in your proposal, you should better give 2 dash to fund for the mnowatch site to become alive again (it was banned from github, so it needs to be hosted to an independent place). As long as the agents reside in dash community, there is no hope for any decent proposal. We should first built the root, then the leaves. And the root is the proof of individuality.





Spit the cancer of censorship and of spamming out of the dash forums.
Let's LIBERATE the users/readers of the dash forums, NOW!
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Having informative video with Huobi exchange might catch massive flow of new investors for the DASH project.
It's mainly because Huobi exchange has been one of the largest crypto exchanges over the last months.

Lets hope it does.

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DASH Adoption In Inflation-Prone Venezuela Provides Validity For Cryptocurrency
https://ethereumworldnews.com/dash-adoption-venezuela-2018/

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Bitcoin has been a popular choice for those looking to escape fiat for a stable and secure cryptocurrency asset. However, given that the bolivar has become unusable and is on pace to erode the net worth of anyone who holds it, Venezuelans need more than just a digital safe haven for their wealth: they need a currency that will function for transactions. While Bitcoin has been lauded for its high profile and widely recognized brand name, it does fall behind other top 20 currencies in terms of usability as money. Compared to the aforementioned NANO and DASH, BTC mining fees for transactions, in addition to the increased confirmation times, has led to a fair portion of the country exploring cryptocurrencies that provide the most utility in terms of transactions.

This shows the difference between having value of store (Bitcoin) and value of usability (Dash).
Mainstream adoption will prefer value of usability over value of store.

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