[ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency

[Hanna_Money]

Dash is one of the most famous and legendary crypto projects. I am very surprised at such a low price for a coin as it is now.

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[TaoOfSaatoshi]

Dash Nation DFO (Dash Funded Organization) Contract Renewal Offer Terms

We would appreciate your support again, @qwizzie, and any other MNOs who still come here. Cheers.

https://www.dashcentral.org/p/Dash-Nation-DFO-2018-2019

#DashNation #DashDecentral

A yes from me. Its a shame this proposal is struggling. Regardless if you agree or disagree to other moderation /censorship issues, Dash Nation 'is' an asset to the community.

Very much appreciate your support, @afbitcoins. Respect.

[afbitcoins]

I'm trying to get a handle on the 'censorship' debate.

I understand that :

• DashNation Discord is moderated by Tao of Satoshi's team.
• DashTalk  forum is moderated by Tao of Satoshi's team.
• DashPay subreddit is moderated by Tao of Satoshi's team.
• Dash Central is moderated by ___ (who?)
• ANN DASH on btctalk (here) is unmoderated, (ignored by disinterested bitcoin moderators). This is the place for free speech!
• DashTalk on Discord (part of DashForce) is moderated by DashForce team.

Am I right with all this? Who moderates Dash Central ? Have I missed any others?


So on with some random thoughts. Too many places with the same moderation team is not ideal. For examle If you as a poster are unhappy with censorship by Tao of Satoshi's team you are effectively unhappy with the 3 main places to talk Dash. In my view the rule about stating speculation as fact might have a good intent behind it but is annoying many users and most often is very subjective how to interpret. It has been a winning formula in Tao's own Dash Nation area. This doesn't mean it is also right for reddit and Dash forum.

The new 'Dash Talk' on discord can be confused with 'Dash Talk' official forum. This seems underhanded doesn't it?Why are they named so similarly? Its llke Dash Force are trying to affiliate themselves with Dash Talk official forum and give extra legitimacy to their own discord channel. Also  I have been lead to believe they are trying to take control of the moderation of Dash Talk forum via a silent change to an already existing proposal. Can I say underhanded again.

The problems are that Tao of Satoshi has spread his reach too far which is not unexectedly drawing comparisons to a dictator and accusations of censorship (controlling all major discussion platforms).
Dash Force appear to be making power grab to take away some of that power, which is fair enough I suppose but doing so in what appear to be sneaky ways via a back door.


All this time when I thought user demo was just a moneron trying to spread the usual FUD. When in fact there are real issues

What is the solution to this mess?

For starters I would like to see Dash Force act more openly, they are not shining themselves in a good light here. Their discord channel should be called Dash Force Discord. They should not try to sneakily obtain moderation rights for other forums. If anyone is acting consistently and with dignity it is Tao. I wonder if a seperate team from both should be created to moderate the official forum? Anyone have the answers?

With regards to who moderates Dash Central, that would be rango who actually owns Dash Central. He rarely moderates Dash Central, although he did make it so that only masternode owners and whitelisted persons could comment on budget proposals,
after it got a bit out of hand with trolls commenting on budget proposals in Dash Central.

I dont remember rango doing much personal moderation, except for the time when he banned one of iCEBREAKER's poppet accounts, together with denying Icey access to Dash Central remote monitoring and restart scripts due to Icey's consistent use of profanity (using blasphemous or obscene language).
Icey was asked to remove his masternodes from Dash Central as well, if i remember correctly.

With regards to Dash Nation, i find Tao and TroyDASH completely transparant and honest. Not only with the budget proposal, but also with the answers they provide in the comments. People may disagree with Dash Nation's moderation style (the 10 rules and with Tao as end-responsible for his moderation team), but it has been clear from the start what it exactly involves. The Dash Nation moderator team includes some well known and respected community members as well :

TroyDash
Splawik21
jeffh
solarguy
Arthyron
MooCowMoo
JGCMiner
DeltaEngine
krish
ThisMustBeTrue

With regards to Dash Force i find them lacking transparancy, lacking in communication and i lost my trust in them after they updated their own Dash Force budget proposal to suddenly include agreeing to a Dash Force moderation style change on Dash Reddit and Dash.org/forum.
Mind you that their Dash Force budget proposal was running for many weeks already, garnered a lot of support (i also voted yes somewhere in august on this specific Dash Force proposal) and out of nowhere they introduced a few days ago this new moderator style that had nothing to do with
their original Dash Force operation costs / activities proposal. I feel like they abused my vote this way. They should have just made a seperate polling proposal on such an important topic as a change in moderation style on Dash forums, instead they went this rather shady / sneaky way.

With regards to demo : i think he gets more credit then he deserves. I have little doubt demo will manage to break even Dash Force rules, when it comes to posting and behaving on a public forum. I saw him once upload a picture from PIVX.org through his demo16 account, so i think he comes from the PIVX community.  
        
I dont really see a solution for the moderation style that Dash Force wants and the moderation style that Dash Nation currently provides. I just know that the Dash Nation moderation style worked well on their own Dash Nation Discord channel and masternodes did vote affirmative to have this moderation style & rules extended to Dash Reddit and Dash.org/forum. There was overwhelming support for.

Thanks for that comprehensive response qwizzie

[AzzAz]

Bitcoin Core contributors Jimmy Song and Greg Maxwell encouraged using credit cards over Bitcoin for purchases, highlighting areas for growth for payments-focused cryptocurrencies.

In a recent tweet, Song, a Bitcoin Core contributor, encouraged users to employ credit cards for purchases and selling Bitcoin to pay off the bill, rather than use it for the payment directly:[/size]

Read more - https://www.dashforcenews.com/jimmy-song-and-greg-maxwell-credit-cards-are-better-for-purchases-than-bitcoin/

...so they "solved" it. Nevermind that is so opposite to bare idea of bitcoin.

[afbitcoins]

Bitcoin Core contributors Jimmy Song and Greg Maxwell encouraged using credit cards over Bitcoin for purchases, highlighting areas for growth for payments-focused cryptocurrencies.

In a recent tweet, Song, a Bitcoin Core contributor, encouraged users to employ credit cards for purchases and selling Bitcoin to pay off the bill, rather than use it for the payment directly:[/size]

Read more - https://www.dashforcenews.com/jimmy-song-and-greg-maxwell-credit-cards-are-better-for-purchases-than-bitcoin/

...so they "solved" it. Nevermind that is so opposite to bare idea of bitcoin.

Yeah great solution. Use a credit card for payments.  
Or. Use DASH  

But wait..  Protection against fraud? I was  a victim of fraud on a localbitcoins transaction, not only no protection, the bank kicked me out. It was quite traumatic, my money frozen for weeks with no explanation. I had no idea what or if I was accused of anything. F*ck the banks. Use Dash

[demo16]

The masternodes never voted for Tao to impose his own set of rules to dashtalk. Furthermore the way Tao imposed his own rules was both inconsistent and unfair! Thats the reason many people revolted against him.

Fortunately, Tao will never become again a moderator. This is the fate of all dictators, who dare to opress our right of free speech. The voting results in the dash budget system are clear. No more Tao anymore! https://www.dashcentral.org/p/Dash-Nation-DFO-2018-2019

Free speech is one of the most important rights to have. Brave men in the past gave their life for it, they fought and died for our essential rights, including freedom of speech. And every unfair, unjustified or untraceable/sneaky censoring of somebody is like a spit in the face of those men who sacrificed their life for conquering this right for all of us. In my case, the censorship proponents may think that my ban was fair, or justified. But what about the sneaky part of Tao's action? He did not announced my ban in dashtalk!!! Who knows how many like me he banned, in the same sneaky way? Even a censorship proponent should not accept Tao's sneaky attitude of killing without leaving any traces!

I recommend everyone over here not to use any Dash channel or forum any longer, where any biased kind of censorship is being applied. Because in being a partaker of such a platform, every participant (to some extent) agrees and condones its practices. Not liking somebody is OK, but seriously believing in having the right (or duty) to silence somebody or preventing him to express a challenging opinion or view, is not just plain wrong, but is pathetic. We should just leave these over-eager mods to themselves, so they can censor their own comments and ban each other until they are left with nothing but silence for moderation. Maybe they get a clue by then.

Never forget, death is a form of censorship. And censorship is a form of death. The one who fights for free speech, he fights for life. Vote for life and free speech, not for death and censorship! Long live the dash community!


Spit the cancer of censorship and of spamming out of the dash forums.
Let's LIBERATE the users/readers of the dash forums, NOW!

[bittoyski]

hi, I am really glad the coin got such a great new dev!

I just saw there is a new windows miner xcoin-miner - but it has like 25/50 detection rate in virustotal - thats preety dark Wink I still have the old miner drk1.2b and it only has 7/50 so what happened? I am using the old miner for now, but should the new one be much faster? Seems to be complete different than previous. I also do not find the page where the new miner got released and discussed, so please someone tell me there is no trojan or whatever.

What do you mean new dev? I think Dash developer eduffield is a legend and very active dev since the Darkcoin days and one of the forerunners in the crypto field, having invented X11 and masternode technologies, he is irreplaceable.

[afbitcoins]

sneaky

Whats your thoughts on pivx?

Oh and you forgot to sign your message, how will  I know which demo poster I am in conversation with?

I agree with your sentiments though. Challenging opinions should not be censored. What do you think of the DashTalk sorry DashForce, no DashTalk discord. Anything sneaky there?

[charlie137]

pushed a few updates - everything looks dandy, but would be great to have some feedback from signers https://github.com/charlesrocket/dash-gitian
dropped kvm and lxc from init tasks, since docker is faster

[Oranium80]

i dont know about others but i am impressed and loving the adoption were seeing in Venezuela and a few more countries are jumping on board which is what everyone has been waiting for, i know its a bad thing to say but im going to be happy to see another crash like 2008 that was the beginning of the good old bitcoin, the next time this happens crypto in general will have its chance to show the world its the better solution for the shit financial system we currently have which is old, outdated and only makes the banks stronger and us the little people under their control and basically using our money to grow their wealth while risking money that does not belong to them.

[gribble]

Dash Passes 3,600 Merchants 18 Months Ahead of Lightning Network 1,000 Merchants Bet
https://www.dashforcenews.com/dash-passes-3600-merchants-18-months-ahead-of-lightning-network-1000-merchants-bet/

Poll: Majority of Investors Believe Cryptocurrency will Appreciate During a Recession, Begs Usability Questions
https://www.dashforcenews.com/poll-majority-of-investors-believe-cryptocurrency-will-appreciate-during-a-recession-begs-usability-questions/

Jimmy Song and Greg Maxwell: Credit Cards Are Better for Purchases Than Bitcoin
https://www.dashforcenews.com/jimmy-song-and-greg-maxwell-credit-cards-are-better-for-purchases-than-bitcoin/

[Fuoiekuan]

dash are mother pos and masternode mining coin

[dimao]

The price is now stable and may go up. If I had money, I would buy

[qwizzie]

Since Dash Force made an important change to their budget proposal 2 months after creation and have not shared that change on this Bitcointalk Dash ANN forum (i have not found any Dash Force announcement of it in here),
i advice masternode owners who are unaware of this change to re-evaluate Dash Force budget proposal to see if the change Dash Force made to their budget proposal still reflect masternode owners original support / vote.
The change that Dash Force put in their budget proposal 4th of october 2018, makes their budget proposal clash heads-on with another budget proposal that is currently seeking continued funding .

I also think Dash Watch should re-evaluate Dash Force revised budget proposal, as it currently does not show the change and Dash Force is lacking in communication about this change with the Dash community.

Dash Central : https://www.dashcentral.org/p/DASH_FORCE_SEPTEMBER
Dash Watch : https://dashwatch.org/cards/491

Budget proposal that Dash Force conflicts with, due to the recent change in their budget proposal :

Dash Central : https://www.dashcentral.org/p/Dash-Nation-DFO-2018-2019
Dash Watch : does not exist yet




  

[NibiruHybrid]

Cryptocurrency Charitable Donations Continue to Rise, Reveals Competitive Advantages

Charitable organizations in the United States and around the world have seen an increasing amount of their donations be cryptocurrency denominated.

Silicon Valley Community Foundation, which unites donors with various charities, has around $4.5 billion USD in digital assets, which is about a third of its 13.5 billion USD investments. Fidelity Charitable, one of the largest US charities in terms of annual donations received, said digital charities was its fastest growing category in 2017. Then there are many other smaller charities that are also accepting cryptocurrencies. Some charities have even encourage individuals to donate their idle computer power to mine cryptocurrencies, such as UNICEF Australia.

Read more - https://www.dashforcenews.com/cryptocurrency-charitable-donations-continue-to-rise-reveals-competitive-advantages/

[demo16]

sneaky

Whats your thoughts on pivx?

Oh and you forgot to sign your message, how will  I know which demo poster I am in conversation with?

I agree with your sentiments though. Challenging opinions should not be censored. What do you think of the DashTalk sorry DashForce, no DashTalk discord. Anything sneaky there?

I have approx 1.5 Dash and 1.5 PIV .
So I am a member of the Dash community, and a member of the PIVX community.
I would like those two communities to merge.

I cannot see something sneaky when DashForce created the Dashtalk Discord channel.


Spit the cancer of censorship and of spamming out of the dash forums.
Let's LIBERATE the users/readers of the dash forums, NOW!

 

[NibiruHybrid]

Transaction Value Stats Suggest Dash, Bitcoin Cash, Doge Used Most for Small Payments

Transaction values for top cryptocurrencies show Dash, as well as Bitcoin Cash and Dogecoin, used most frequently in small transactions, which could indicate real-world use as money.

Data from BitInfoCharts of several major cryptocurrencies shows statistics and trends that can be used to infer the nature of economic activity across the networks. The networks sampled were Bitcoin, Bitcoin Cash, Litecoin, Dash, Zcash, and Dogecoin. These were chosen based on availability of data and on a purpose for use as money (Ethereum’s extremely low median transaction value indicates non-monetary purposes such as smart contracts). Monero was excluded due to the unavailability of public network data, and Dogecoin was included due to its historical significance and persistently high network use.

Read more - https://www.dashforcenews.com/transaction-value-stats-suggest-dash-bitcoin-cash-doge-used-most-for-small-payments/

[TaoOfSaatoshi]

Since Dash Force made an important change to their budget proposal 2 months after creation and have not shared that change on this Bitcointalk Dash ANN forum (i have not found any Dash Force announcement of it in here),
i advice masternode owners who are unaware of this change to re-evaluate Dash Force budget proposal to see if the change Dash Force made to their budget proposal still reflect masternode owners original support / vote.
The change that Dash Force put in their budget proposal 4th of october 2018, makes their budget proposal clash heads-on with another budget proposal that is currently seeking continued funding .

I also think Dash Watch should re-evaluate Dash Force revised budget proposal, as it currently does not show the change and Dash Force is lacking in communication about this change with the Dash community.

Dash Central : https://www.dashcentral.org/p/DASH_FORCE_SEPTEMBER
Dash Watch : https://dashwatch.org/cards/491

Budget proposal that Dash Force conflicts with, due to the recent change in their budget proposal :

Dash Central : https://www.dashcentral.org/p/Dash-Nation-DFO-2018-2019
Dash Watch : does not exist yet




  

Thank you, @qwizzie, for bringing this to the masternodes attention, both here, and on Dash Forum. My team and I would appreciate the continuing support of the masternodes, so that we may continue to do our work for the community to the high standards of Dash Nation.

[afbitcoins]

I cannot see something sneaky when DashForce created the Dashtalk Discord channel.
 

What about quietly altering an existing proposal which already had majority of yes votes to (sneakily?) bundle in moderation rights for Dashtalk forum?

Also noting that "Dash Talk" official forum has had nothing to do with Dash Force historically. Yet the new Dash Force discord channel is called "Dash Talk" ! And now conveniently they also want to moderate Dash Talk official forum.  

Don't you see what I'm getting at? Dash nation has never pretended to be Dash talk. Dash Force is pretending to be Dash Talk. And then quietly attempting to make that happen.

I am not saying Tao of Satoshi should moderate the DashTalk forum or that Dash Force shouldn't but you must admit there are better ways to go about this from Dash Force. The way they are doing it feels . .. can i say sneaky.

[tungfa]

Crypto exchange CoinCola adds support for DASH (aims for Venezuela market)

https://www.cryptoninjas.net/2018/10/10/crypto-exchange-coincola-adds-support-for-dash/