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[TanteStefana2]

Mintpal's chart has been stuck for a long time on my machine (just the graphics)  Anyone else having the same trouble?

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[toknormal]

We shall wait for the BTC/USD 4-hr  MACD to come round in a couple of days and if it gets through it without going sub 350 then that might be it - all lights are green.

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@TaoOfSatoshi

SUPER TAO!
Nice comparison

[janos666]

This is the third retest of sub-400 BTC since December's revaluation.

If it holds above 350, we might be in business. The BTC gods might just say "ok folks, - survived GOX, survived malleability, survived death by a thousand cuts from adverse press, survived the competition of a flotilla of altcoins, survived your third retest of sub-400 BTC - your good to go".

If it does, DRK will take off with it.

I never really cared about the fiat/BTC price during this year. I didn't plan to cash out for either ends (panic about crashing fiat price or greed to take the fiat profit) and I tried to keep the speculation at a minimum and in altcoin/bitcoin space instead of fiat/crypto, so I rarely checked the USD/BTC graphs.

But this time the USD/BTC chart feels like watching Titanic in 3D.
I keep hearing that "I have a reeeealy baaaaad feling about this." in the sub-consciousnesses of some characters, mixed with a generic movie trailer narration voice on the middle ground which explains how James Cameron and his friends are taking the money from the pockets of the stupid who believed the lie that a plain 2D movie can 'seriously actually' be converted into real 3D.
But that's just not possible. It's a simple fact: a 2D copy is a 2D copy, you need to shot from 2 angles for 3D. It's only a 3D post-process effect, not real 3D.
And back into the movie, it's not a love story either. It's a sinking ship where most of the characters die in vain and pain.
(And you also shouldn't buy Celine Dion's whole album just because that song was a good match for that movie scene. )
So, everybody is a fool, all at the same time: those who are on a ship which is about to sink and those who are sitting in the movie theater in 3D glasses (and also those who think the woman who sings is a hot young woman).
It's only James Cameron and his friends who are milking the profit 'in 3D for realz'.

BTW, it's the fourth sub-400$ plunge in a 12-month period (after the 1000+ ATH), not the third.

[coins101]

SUPER TAO!

I really hope it's not just me that is completely and utterly flummoxed; and also in general.

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SUPER TAO!
Nice comparison

Thank you my friend. Also, thank you for the Retweets. We are spreading the word, one by one!

[coins101]

For me, it's today.

[toknormal]

BTW, it's the fourth sub-400$ plunge in a 12-month period (after the 1000+ ATH), not the third.

I wasn't counting the BTCe flash-crash to $100 in a single trade. I think that was just someone who's finger slipped on the mouse button, but you're right that the charts do show 4 retests including that one.

[flipme]

http://shapeshift.io/

I put an unofficial feature request for BTC<>DRK running through the Master Nodes, which, now I find this service ^^, I can tell everyone about.

It's not guaranteed to be worked on, but I think that because of this service being available for LTC, and soon other alts, it will be worth keeping track of this service and pushing a little harder for something similar.

Being able to move from BTC>DRK>BTC for a very small fee to MNs would be a killer application (why would you need DarkWallet?), especially if we could effectively have wallets acting as BTC and DRK mini-exchanges / liquidity, and the MNs as the automatic escrow.

I was thinking about BTC-> DRK->BTC some time ago, and there seems to be a logic problem At least I think so...

If you think about the transfer details:
1. Have pseudonymous BTC (local wallet)
2. Buy drk from btc
3. anonymize drk
4. buy btc from drk
5. have btc (local wallet)

If you want to do this without exchanges, he would just get his btc back he bought drk with in step 2.

So only solution I can think of is:
1. have pseudonymous btc
2. buy drk with btc on exchange
3. transfer drk to local wallet
4. anonymize drk
5. send drk to exchange and buy btc

but even in this case, exchange could probably get the original btc address from step 1 by comparing send drk amounts from step 3 and 5. So actually you have to solve all the problems evan solved with darksend if you want to mix drk with btc

I think this works through the master node network if there are distributed wallets that are happy to provide liquidity to transactions.

Say you had 10 BTC. You could allocate 2 BTC to be drawn down by the Master Nodes if there is an order that requires processing.

If 1,000 people allocated 2 BTC for this, you would have a pretty decent decentralised exchange.

Its got lots of security and trust issues that would need to be worked out, but it would rock.

Sounds like IOUs, that would be it.

Like Ripple without Ripple.
The big problems of all alts is the cheapness, no liquidity.
How to bring it to market, without throwing exorbitant amounts at the wrong people?

The fuck, Darkcoin. Lets say you want to transfer 10 mil. US $ with Darksend, good idea.
But what happens? You're out there buying DRK for 10 mil ...?
You'll drive the price, exorbitant, unreal, you'll have all the vultures on your back.
Then you Darksend to liquidate at the other end.
You liquidate DRK for 10 mil $ and the price will collapse.
Thats total shit, how you wanna solve this...?
You can't. How you wanna distribute for extended liquidity without distortion?
How you want to make your financial instrument usable?
Impossible in your model, check mate. It can't work like this.
You're out for shit and you know it.

All your shit coins are out for shit, if you trade on your intrinsic value against shit.
You need to make your method valuable, not your bloody fucking shitcoin...

[snogcel]

http://shapeshift.io/

I put an unofficial feature request for BTC<>DRK running through the Master Nodes, which, now I find this service ^^, I can tell everyone about.

It's not guaranteed to be worked on, but I think that because of this service being available for LTC, and soon other alts, it will be worth keeping track of this service and pushing a little harder for something similar.

Being able to move from BTC>DRK>BTC for a very small fee to MNs would be a killer application (why would you need DarkWallet?), especially if we could effectively have wallets acting as BTC and DRK mini-exchanges / liquidity, and the MNs as the automatic escrow.

I was thinking about BTC-> DRK->BTC some time ago, and there seems to be a logic problem At least I think so...

If you think about the transfer details:
1. Have pseudonymous BTC (local wallet)
2. Buy drk from btc
3. anonymize drk
4. buy btc from drk
5. have btc (local wallet)

If you want to do this without exchanges, he would just get his btc back he bought drk with in step 2.

So only solution I can think of is:
1. have pseudonymous btc
2. buy drk with btc on exchange
3. transfer drk to local wallet
4. anonymize drk
5. send drk to exchange and buy btc

but even in this case, exchange could probably get the original btc address from step 1 by comparing send drk amounts from step 3 and 5. So actually you have to solve all the problems evan solved with darksend if you want to mix drk with btc

I think this works through the master node network if there are distributed wallets that are happy to provide liquidity to transactions.

Say you had 10 BTC. You could allocate 2 BTC to be drawn down by the Master Nodes if there is an order that requires processing.

If 1,000 people allocated 2 BTC for this, you would have a pretty decent decentralised exchange.

Its got lots of security and trust issues that would need to be worked out, but it would rock.

Sounds like IOUs, that would be it.

Like Ripple without Ripple.
The big problems of all alts is the cheapness, no liquidity.
How to bring it to market, without throwing exorbitant amounts at the wrong people?

The fuck, Darkcoin. Lets say you want to transfer 10 mil. US $ with Darksend, good idea.
But what happens? You're out there buying DRK for 10 mil ...?
You'll drive the price, exorbitant, unreal, you'll have all the vultures on your back.
Then you Darksend to liquidate at the other end.
You liquidate DRK for 10 mil $ and the price will collapse.
Thats total shit, how you wanna solve this...?
You can't. How you wanna distribute for extended liquidity without distortion?
How you want to make your financial instrument usable?
Impossible in your model, check mate. It can't work like this.
You're out for shit and you know it.

All your shit coins are out for shit, if you trade on your intrinsic value against shit.
You need to make your method valuable, not your bloody fucking shitcoin...

shouldn't be a problem once black markets bring it up to $1000 per coin valuation though, right?

[Ignition75]

You guys should take a look at joining Fortress Crypto Investments. Lots of upcoming opportunities are known by us first. No pump & dumps, just solid picks to point your BTC towards. It's a nice change from the regular groups you see. The amount of support I get from them is fantastic too. You can use code "Zurg" when you join aswell.

website : www.fortresscrypto.com
email : tips@fortresscrypto.com

Not impressed.. lot of generic shutterstock images and some claims that I would really like to see substantiated. Could you throw us a proof of your early DRK investments? Otherwise the claims of your past 10000% RoI look fairly weak.

I know hey, the first thing that popped into my head when I saw the website was how they didn't even try to use the rarely used Shutterstock images, they just took the common ones which everyone already knows.

Whenever I see something like that I think the company is run by a 15 year old on his Uncle's Laptop...

[camosoul]

What the holy funk just happened?

THAR BE WHALES IN DEM DARK WATERS!!!

Yar! Man the harpoons!

[camosoul]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=579976.msg6335710#msg6335710

Any others?

"Camosoul's Left Nut"

[camosoul]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=579976.msg6335710#msg6335710

Any others?

Hoping it'll be Neil Armstrong.

I'd say put people on your list who are famous tax protestors:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax_protester_history_in_the_United_States

A tax protester is a person who denies that he or she owes a tax based on the belief that the constitution, statutes, or regulations do not empower the government to impose, assess or collect the tax.

My favourites:

• Larken Rose
• Wesley Snipes
• Irwin Schiff (father of Peter Schiff)

Those are people who are not afraid to go to prison (!) for their conviction.

Henry David Thoreau?

[Ignition75]

I wouldn't be diss'n theze guyz.  

They are obviously major playerz on teh crypto'z scene and they have the backing to keep tah crypto'z streetz clean and realz.

Keep it real and your returnz @ minimum of 2,000,000 % my fortrezzcrypto brotherz

Lol, they are clowns running a scam, the cancer of Crypto...

[georgem]

Henry David Thoreau?

Thought we were limiting ourselves to people who are alive (so, not sure about your left nut, haaaaaaaaaaaa, just kidding....).
Anyway, we should "get a life"... or "get some darkcoins".... looking forward to xpool payment and open source today.  

Also:

[coins101]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=579976.msg6335710#msg6335710

Any others?

"Camosoul's Left Nut"

[God Donut]

Are they going to release source code today?

[stonehedge]

Are they going to release source code today?

yes