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[iCEBREAKER]

Hey quick notice! @darkcoinnews rebranding (Not to Dash)

I will not be covering news about Darkcoin anymore and have thus changed my @darkcoinnews twitter account name/logo/etc. I'll still be checking in here regularly since I'm hooked anyways but I won't help promote Darkcoin actively anymore.

While I was optimistic at first for a rebranding, the way the situation was handled was absolutely horrible. Dash itself is IMO quite a bad choice for the name and I've been vocal about that but the fact that no alternatives were seriously discussed and that the decision was made permanent within a few days was a dictator move instead of a decentralized currency and it made me rethink the effort I put into promoting.

I definitely could have lived with Dash if we came up with a few great alternatives and then put it to a real vote. Instead it went from rumors, to first announcement, to confirmation within a few days. (Don't come at me with "A decision HAD to be taken" bullshit, there was no hurry and a few more weeks wouldn't have changed anything).

I'm keeping all my Darkcoin and I remain always impressed by the development speed and the resulting tech. I'll definitely give some Twitter shout outs to interesting developments but it won't be my main focus anymore. So this notice is really for those of you who want to unfollow me.

Let me get this straight... So Evan works full time for 14 months to build the most technologically advanced cryptocurrency on the planet, far surpassing the capabilities of Bitcoin, becoming the number 3 crypto behind Litecoin in the process. Meanwhile, you're so butt hurt about the way the name change process was handled to the extent that you can't be bothered to help anymore? I think Evan has earned the right to make more than one error, even if you could call the name change that. The community had the chance to rally behind a different name. It didn't... it immediately embraced the name (that it had already reached consensus around once before).

So what would you have preferred Evan do? Let the Darkcoin name persist long after it was evident it was holding back the coin? Or would you rather he'd let the uncertainty of the name change debate rage on for weeks? Evan did what leaders do... he did the prudent thing and secured name rights once it was evident the name had consensus. And he did it knowing full well that he couldn't make everyone happy with the decision. So look at the big picture. I'm so very sorry every single thing hasn't been done the way you would have liked. Get over it.

The Dark brand build this coin.  It is dishonest sell people Darkcoins only to suddenly take them away and replace them with DASH, which was never disclosed on any roadmap.

Sudden unilateral rebranding is a slap in the face to all those working on Dark projects, like physical coins, videos, dark domain name sites, etc.

Duff bent his community over and had his way with them.  Responses to this surprise vary according to the intelligence of the victim.

Hopelessly retarded rubes like Taylor05 demand everyone cheer louder for their glorious cult leader, who can do no wrong.

Dumb ones like anonymousxx1503 complain about the lack of chocolates, flowers, and lube, but still stand by their man.

Smart ones like vertoe said "so long and thanks for all the fish."

Very smart ones realize DarshCoin isn't the "the most technologically advanced cryptocurrency" and started supporting the one that is:

Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation
I used to be a Darkcoin supporter. But I'm done with it since I don't like where it's headed. It's masternode concept is taking liquidity and decentralization out of the picture, and pretty much going against what a "crypto"(Decentralization) currency(Liquidity) is supposed to be. The instamine didn't help either.

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[Rux]

you said something?  

[iCEBREAKER]

you said something?  

Yes, and so did this deprogrammed cultist:

Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation
I used to be a Darkcoin supporter. But I'm done with it since I don't like where it's headed. It's masternode concept is taking liquidity and decentralization out of the picture, and pretty much going against what a "crypto"(Decentralization) currency(Liquidity) is supposed to be. The instamine didn't help either.

[Sapereaude]

you said something?  

I can only hear the wind :p

[coins101]

Everyone on ignore.

Now I can catch up in about 16 seconds. 

[Rux]

im sure he is trying to tell us something but... like Sapereaude said... i hear only wind

meanwhile, 0.013, welcome to the club boys

[illodin]

Regarding DRK supporter turning to some other coin and starting to criticize DRK.

When you dump your Darkcoins at 0.005 and later seeing it triple in value can make a man bitter and hold grudges.

Just sayin.

[ilic]

it's great to see DRK/DASH not only holding as BTC dropped but actually gaining.

Very promising and I think part of that is as a result of the name change.  A whole new world is opening up now.

[Rux]

Yea, i can imagine him... bitter in mouth ha?

but hey, its not to late even now

26.03 ↄash going to 0.02 BTC per 1 ↄash

[stonehedge]

Regarding DRK supporter turning to some other coin and starting to criticize DRK.

When you dump your Darkcoins at 0.005 and later seeing it triple in value can make a man bitter and hold grudges.

Just sayin.

Imagine how it feels for me at the moment

[Rux]

i knew you would not leave us !!!!!!!

dont you dare, stony... dont you dare

[stonehedge]

i knew you would not leave us !!!!!!!

dont you dare, stony... dont you dare

There's too much FUD to fight for me to go anywhere for now.

I've been working hard for six months to see this point and even though I'm not going to benefit from it, I can't miss it.

EDIT:  PS  I am now the proud owner of 4DRK so I'm going up in the world

[xxxgoodgirls]

you said something?  

Yes, and so did this deprogrammed cultist:

Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation
I used to be a Darkcoin supporter. But I'm done with it since I don't like where it's headed. It's masternode concept is taking liquidity and decentralization out of the picture, and pretty much going against what a "crypto"(Decentralization) currency(Liquidity) is supposed to be. The instamine didn't help either.

I am crossposting this nice response of toknormal from the infamous DRK/XMR/SDC/ETC thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=985039.140

Masternodes are centralized because they are hosted on servers online, which are centralized. The large majority of masternode owners host their nodes on the internet, I'd say that's pretty centralized.

No. They are categorically not 'centralised' because of that.

Your talking about hosting of particular instances of the daemon as opposed to the logical architecture of the network. This word 'centralized' gets jumped on as if it's the holy grail of everything - a hammer that turns everything else into a nail. Its use with regard to cryptocurrencies alludes to the logical interaction of each node with the rest of the network. The whole *point* of a decentralised architecture is that things like machine hosting of particular 'nodes' have no bearing on this.

All of crypto, including bitcoin, is inundated with cloud mining facilities - in fact they are positively *promoted* all over the place. Despite that, if you consult blockchain.info's metrics regarding mining 'centralisation', they're not remotely interested in who's hosting the mining nodes, rather what pools they are subscribed to.

This is just another example of picking some random aspect of a network's demographic (not its logical architecture) and manically banding about straw men based on it simply to have something to shout about.

Now lets consider a couple of extreme cases - say, [1] - if a hosting company were to shutdown all the nodes it hosted and [2] - if it were to compromise (take control of) all the nodes it hosted.

Case [1] is a benign attack. The nodes can simply be resurrected elsewhere (because, being wallet daemons, they are logically decentralised). It's no different in that respect from shutting down a cloud mining array - in fact it's even more benign since the blockchain hashpower isn't affected. That is secured by the regular mining function just as in bitcoin.

Case [2] is impossible. The attacker needs the private keys to the masternode collateral account to gain control a masternode and they are held offline and have nothing to do with where the particular daemon happens to be hosted.

Even if you did have access to the actual machines hosting masternodes, so what ? All cryptocurrency architectures have to *assume* bad actor operations in every aspect of their design. With the next revision of node blinding, you won't even be able to learn anything from the logs and even if you did, all you'd do at the absolute theoretical worst is de-anonymise some random transactions between one anonymous part of the money supply and another.

There's no systematic vulnerability there.

[BiteMyShinyMetalAss]

Dash the cash! All is needed is DashStamp, to have a DASH $ or € only exchange and decouple from BTC.

[OnetyOne]

Regarding DRK supporter turning to some other coin and starting to criticize DRK.

When you dump your Darkcoins at 0.005 and later seeing it triple in value can make a man bitter and hold grudges.

Just sayin.

Imagine how it feels for me at the moment

Doesn't come close to 28k DRK but I've had my share of DRK gamble losses not too long ago at ~.004-6.

[xxxgoodgirls]

you said what?

lol someone tell please the guy I am a DASH supporter, he can't even read due to FUD paranoia

[toknormal]

you said what?

Rux, why are you blanking xxxgoodgirls ?

I think you've mis-identified.

P.S. Message for you from xxxgoodgirls...

lol someone tell please the guy I am a DASH supporter, he can't even read due to FUD paranoia

[illodin]

Regarding DRK supporter turning to some other coin and starting to criticize DRK.

When you dump your Darkcoins at 0.005 and later seeing it triple in value can make a man bitter and hold grudges.

Just sayin.

Imagine how it feels for me at the moment

I might have some idea, as I've had some pretty bad runs when playing poker earlier in my life. Just like almost everyone who has played million+ hands. What poker taught me though, is that betting on a 0EV coin toss is not worth it to risk the variance. Still, I know how easy it is to tilt and how hard it is to resist chasing losses with bigger bets. Even though poker is deemed bad and making people playing it degenerated gamblers, it teaches a certain mindset of trying to take only +EV risks, and discipline and bankroll management. For example, after playing poker for a while, I stopped playing casino games completely, and have never played them since because there's no point as they are all -EV.

Anyway, I'll be sure to throw a few MN payments your way as a thank you for everything you've done for the community.

[iCEBREAKER]

you said what?

lol someone tell please the guy I am a DASH supporter, he can't even read due to FUD paranoia

How very cultish of Rux.

Let's go over the warning signs.

1) Unquestioning Faith in the Group's Leader? - CHECK!

2) Doubts and Dissent are Punished, Either Overtly or Passively?  -  CHECK!

3) The Internal Culture Harbors an "Us-Vs.-Them"Attitude Toward Non-Members?  -  CHECK AND DOUBLE CHECK!

In a typical cult atmosphere, there is a general distrust of outsiders. Believers are told that outsiders are dangerous and repressive, intentionally trying to mislead otherwise faithful followers.

[Rux]

im so sorry you are right, im paranoid from so much FUD thx from ice and others

coins101 started this UBER ignore paranoya





ICE, you said WHAT? hAhAhaa