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[TanteStefana2]

Anyone knows how to run the latest version of Dash on Ubuntu 14.04?

I get these files and can't open them. I'm kind of an ubuntu noob...

Just  go to directory where qt is using terminal and execute it.
For instance, i keep my dash-qt on a desktop.
So open terminal and type

cd /home/Desktop
./dash-qt --reindex

Thanks! That worked fine!

Yes, but they're supposed to be double clickable.  I've had this same issue since weeks ago in testnet.  Nobody answered me back then and I've been using the terminal to start my QT wallet ever since.  I figured something happened to my settings with one of the test daemons.  At least one other person asked about it, but nobody ever responded, so I dropped it and made due.  But if people are still getting this, it should be fixed IMO.

[Sub-Ether]

...Busy, busy, busy

Sub: When are you doing an updated sync test?
Your test scores are essential reading.

Coins, I am waiting for Thor's hammer to come down before timing V12, need the network to calm down otherwise the readings will be spurious, and the more fast masternodes to lock onto for seeding the better.
Btw, bitcoin does appear to be increasing it's Tao sync ratio, on the 7th March 2015 when the bitcoin v10 memory hop speed up was instigated (big speedup time) Tao = 3.3 seconds / hour, then on the 3rd August, bitcoin's Tao = 4.1 seconds / hour. This is not surprising with a congested network, poor seeding, full blocks and 40 gigabytes of blockchain to download - imagine what it will be like with 8 meg blocks if they get full quickly.
At the time, we were still a fork of bitcoin v0.9.3 with 0.11.2.23, so we didn't have Mr Andresen's 60 times memory hop speed up fixes fully in place.
In testnet, V12 update times were promising but we shall see   ...

Thanks.
Looking forward to the results.

Coins, thanks! You helped give me an idea  

The link lead me to this comment by Kristov Atlas,
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/bitcoin-xt/irrzfMH_dfo
''Do you consider raising the block size limit to be an act of scaling the network? Based on my reading, it seems purely an act of increasing throughput, at the (difficult to quantify) cost of raising the minimum resource requirements for full nodes. Scaling in my amateur understanding is primarily about efficiency gains. If this fits at all with your understanding, what sorts of efficiency gains for the network are in the pipeline for Bitcoin-XT?''
Thanks,
~~Kristov~~

Then I had a brainstorm when he mentioned efficiency  
wait for it ...

The blockchain efficiency is inversely proportional to the Tao ratio, (I should have seen that before)

None normalized efficiency = 1 / Tao

efficiency (Dash)   =  4.16%
efficiency (bitcoin) = 0.24%
efficiency (Monero) = 0.07%

Normalizing to 100% can be done by inversely scaling using the worst possible scenerio which for these purposes is Monero (Tao =14.2), the minimum value has to be assumed to be zero as the lower tao limit is unknown.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feature_scaling

using this normalization method :-
[current tao - min tao) / (max tao - min tao)) * -1 ) +1)] * 100

so, finally, normalizing to always give 100% as the maximum using Monero as the highest value we have,

Normalized network/blockchain efficiencies

Dash efficiency = 98.3%
Bitcoin efficiency = 70.9%
Monero efficiency = 0%

I'll have to measure litecoin and a couple of others to stick in the middle somewhere!

[of course if there is a coin slower than Monero that sets the standard, this would mean Monero is more than zero]

[HinnomTX]

i fucking love this coin, 

FTFY.

[coins101]

...Busy, busy, busy

Sub: When are you doing an updated sync test?
Your test scores are essential reading.

Coins, I am waiting for Thor's hammer to come down before timing V12, need the network to calm down otherwise the readings will be spurious, and the more fast masternodes to lock onto for seeding the better.
Btw, bitcoin does appear to be increasing it's Tao sync ratio, on the 7th March 2015 when the bitcoin v10 memory hop speed up was instigated (big speedup time) Tao = 3.3 seconds / hour, then on the 3rd August, bitcoin's Tao = 4.1 seconds / hour. This is not surprising with a congested network, poor seeding, full blocks and 40 gigabytes of blockchain to download - imagine what it will be like with 8 meg blocks if they get full quickly.
At the time, we were still a fork of bitcoin v0.9.3 with 0.11.2.23, so we didn't have Mr Andresen's 60 times memory hop speed up fixes fully in place.
In testnet, V12 update times were promising but we shall see   ...

Thanks.
Looking forward to the results.

Coins, thanks! You helped give me an idea  

The link lead me to this comment by Kristov Atlas,
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/bitcoin-xt/irrzfMH_dfo
''Do you consider raising the block size limit to be an act of scaling the network? Based on my reading, it seems purely an act of increasing throughput, at the (difficult to quantify) cost of raising the minimum resource requirements for full nodes. Scaling in my amateur understanding is primarily about efficiency gains. If this fits at all with your understanding, what sorts of efficiency gains for the network are in the pipeline for Bitcoin-XT?''
Thanks,
~~Kristov~~

Then I had a brainstorm when he mentioned efficiency  
wait for it ...

The blockchain efficiency is inversely proportional to the Tao ratio, (I should have seen that before)

None normalized efficiency = 1 / Tao

efficiency (Dash)   =  4.16%
efficiency (bitcoin) = 0.24%
efficiency (Monero) = 0.07%

Normalizing to 100% can be done by inversely scaling using the worst possible scenerio which for these purposes is Monero (Tao =14.2), the minimum value has to be assumed to be zero as the lower tao limit is unknown.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feature_scaling

using this normalization method :-
[current tao - min tao) / (max tao - min tao)) * -1 ) +1)] * 100

so, finally, normalizing to always give 100% as the maximum using Monero as the highest value we have,

Normalized network/blockchain efficiencies

Dash efficiency = 98.3%
Bitcoin efficiency = 70.9%
Monero efficiency = 0%

I'll have to measure litecoin and a couple of others to stick in the middle somewhere!

[of course if there is a coin slower than Monero that sets the standard, this would mean Monero is more than zero]

You'll have to do a blog post for your results across various crypto projects.

What you should do is figure out the efficiency attribution to master nodes serving the network. p2p using normal connectivity vs. p2p where the serving peer is running on a professional hosting environment - not easy to do, as you can't know how many Bitcoin full nodes are running in hosting environments.

That might suggest that seeding from behind a household broadband connection has a 10-20% (guessing) drag on sync speeds, likely because upload speeds are slower than download speeds - assuming the Tao ratio deals with block chain size differences.

[GhostPlayer]

[of course if there is a coin slower than Monero that sets the standard, this would mean Monero is more than zero]

 loool ... you twisted blockchain chronographer you...

 On scalability; The more I dwelve into the XT melodrama, the more I come to the conclusion that it truly cause mayhem in BTC's network. The only factor is adoption. I think the 6,8% XT full nodes are part of the "rebellious" group, but in the end they will not gain traction.

 I mean, isn't it much better to build something proper from scratch, rather that hack it and butcher it and try to glue it all back together with spit, essentially just to kicking the ball down the road just a few?

[aleix]

Although i really your site  , i dont like the whale with the hat, sigar and mouchtache. I think it gives the wrong message to the broader public who enter Dash.

Its about monetary freedom worldwide, not about getting rich. The masternode owners support this idea by owning one and thus contributing to this cause.

+1

I agree, I don't like this "whale" mood the web page have. The design should focus on the improvements that we have with Dash, and the possibilities to build on top of it, not about earning money. This is absolutely out of focus IMO.

[GhostPlayer]

Although i really your site  , i dont like the whale with the hat, sigar and mouchtache. I think it gives the wrong message to the broader public who enter Dash.

Its about monetary freedom worldwide, not about getting rich. The masternode owners support this idea by owning one and thus contributing to this cause.

+1

I agree, I don't like this "whale" mood the web page have. The design should focus on the improvements that we have with Dash, and the possibilities to build on top of it, not about earning money. This is absolutely out of focus IMO.

 I do agree on the logo, don't make it presumptuous. But I disagree with this argument.

Masternodes are absolutely about making money. It's a reward you receive for serving the network and help maintaining it.
 It's like saying mining is not about the money... but about the altruistic maintenance of the security of the network... Not in real life it isn't! The whole point of mining is rewarding the miner for his contribution.

 That is the entire point behind the Masternode logic. A monetarily incentivised reward system for maintaining a dedicated full node.
 The budgeting system is all about making money to help develop Dash.

 But it's certainly not about being greedy, and that logo sort of implies it...

[Minotaur26]

Although i really your site  , i dont like the whale with the hat, sigar and mouchtache. I think it gives the wrong message to the broader public who enter Dash.

Its about monetary freedom worldwide, not about getting rich. The masternode owners support this idea by owning one and thus contributing to this cause.

+1

I agree, I don't like this "whale" mood the web page have. The design should focus on the improvements that we have with Dash, and the possibilities to build on top of it, not about earning money. This is absolutely out of focus IMO.

Guys, it is a private website they can brand it however they want to and the whale logo seems fun to me. You are reading too much into it, IMHO. The whale status is sought after by many in crypto, I just thought it was clever when I saw it. Cheers.

[Lukas_Jackson]

Emotion-driven trader is sharing his experience 

https://soundcloud.com/whaleclub-bitcoin/fallen-heroes-ep1-shayne-550-btc-to-55 

[balu]

added masternode payment logic to the wiki: https://dashpay.atlassian.net/wiki/display/DOC/Masternode+payment+logic
added regato.io to the wiki: https://dashpay.atlassian.net/wiki/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=1867885 (still missing the contact person and dct forum thread, if either of these is available/public)

[Solarminer]

Normalized network/blockchain efficiencies
Dash efficiency = 98.3%
Bitcoin efficiency = 70.9%
Monero efficiency = 0%

So with the XT and assuming all blocks are full would this be /8 as efficient?  8.8%

[Pansyfaust]

Hashrate is still heavily skewed towards coinmine. Wonder how much longer it can go on like this?

[stealth923]

This is awesome. Signing up right now. Great work and thanks for providing this service to dash MN owners!!!!

Dear DASH lovers,

we just launched our comprehensive DASH masternode monitoring service Dashwhale.org. Monitor your masternodes and check your earnings without the pain of writing own monitoring scripts.

Features:

- add your masternodes simply by entering your masternode coin address
- mobile interface showing your masternode status, details and earnings
- notifications: email & mobile push notifications
- earnings (today, 7 days, monthly, lifetime)
- optional: download the "dashwhale-updater" data push script, to enhance monitoring by blockheight, version, protocolversion and errors of your masternode
- shoutbox for masternode owners
- comprehensive API to build your own apps (Documentation)
- prepared for DASH budget proposal voting / proposal discussion directly on Dashwhale.org
- service is currently free of charge (we may apply for blockchain funding when it is available)

https://www.dashwhale.org

P.S. This website was quite a bit of work. Hope you find it useful and spread the word!

[qwizzie]

Damn, i was about to bump dashwhale's post. I'm getting slow..

In the mean time my masternodes are up and running with v0.12.0.46, ready for that 1/100 chance of winning the daily network lottery.
question is : do you feel lucky today ?   or to be more precise, do you feel lucky 5 days from now ?  

[eduffield]

Damn, i was about to bump dashwhale's post. I'm getting slow..

In the mean time my masternodes are up and running with v0.12.0.46, ready for that 1/100 chance of winning the daily network lottery.
question is : do you feel lucky today ?   or to be more precise, do you feel lucky 5 days from now ?  

Here's the last winner:
    "321988" : "XghcwFhDu5Eg58Cq6iZjw86tTiyBnN28mw:110",
    "321989" : "XghcwFhDu5Eg58Cq6iZjw86tTiyBnN28mw:109",

[qwizzie]

Damn, i was about to bump dashwhale's post. I'm getting slow..

In the mean time my masternodes are up and running with v0.12.0.46, ready for that 1/100 chance of winning the daily network lottery.
question is : do you feel lucky today ?   or to be more precise, do you feel lucky 5 days from now ?  

Here's the last winner:
    "321988" : "XghcwFhDu5Eg58Cq6iZjw86tTiyBnN28mw:110",
    "321989" : "XghcwFhDu5Eg58Cq6iZjw86tTiyBnN28mw:109",

Lucky bastard   

[qwizzie]

to Elbereth : nice job on the Dashninja.pl masternode versions graph, its a lot more easy on the eyes now  

[kadrek]

You don't have to start a MN from the cold wallet when upgrading from .45 to .46, right?

[qwizzie]

You don't have to start a MN from the cold wallet when upgrading from .45 to .46, right?

All my .45 MN wallets crashed today so i had to do a -reindex on them with .46 and then did a start from cold wallets as well
.46 only has a version change this time, no protocol change. So normally you dont need to start from cold wallet then.

[blajde]

You don't have to start a MN from the cold wallet when upgrading from .45 to .46, right?

not in the installing process at least