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July 08, 2014, 08:10:05 PM
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Again, using social Marxism to try and pressure me into acting in what you define as a socially acceptable manner. Why are the people demonstrating, people attacked, 'punks'? I think most of you are in the wrong place, darkcoin was never meant to be a mainstream, good samaritan coin. it was meant for the dark web, for anarchists, and for libertarians.  It's so we can avoid illegal taxes and can purchase goods outside the spying eyes of big brother. There are two different types of anarchist, and we don't get along at all, actually polar opposite. And if you put these two types of anarchists in the same room they will never see eye to eye. I am an anarcho-capitalist.. the other is an anarcho-communist which is what an "anarchist" has traditionally been. I hate commies.  

It's not about socially acceptable manner. It's about first principles. Do unto others as you would have them do to you (Golden Rule)

Punks are still statists who don't want to get rid of government, they would rather have THEIR OWN kind of tyrannical government to boss people around the way THEY like.
People who are demonstrating are never anarchists... demonstrators are still statists and still believe they can change government by playing by its rules (voting the right politician, passing legislation xy, etc)
Anarchists don't demonstrate, they simply boycott and refuse any cooperation with statists and government.

How can you be an anarcho-capitalist but desire to get free stuff from government???

Your "plan" makes totally no sense to me, desiring free stuff is totally socialistic to me (and you blame me for using social marxism???).
Nothing is free, someone else has to pay for it.
It's about the moral principles you know. You need principles if you want to be a true anarchist, or else you are just an opporunistic punk who gives a crap about society and likes to "game" the system for his own benefit.

Government is like cancer, I do not want or need ANYTHING from them.
If you accept free stuff from government, you are helping the cancer grow.
I am not going to use this cancer for my own benefit... instead I am going to shun it and help create the system I always dreamed about: Freedom based on morality and voluntaryism.


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July 08, 2014, 08:10:19 PM
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finding nemo using cpuminer.


Code:
~/findingnemo> /opt/shm/darkcoin-cpuminer-1.3-avx-aes -t 2 -a X11  -D -P \
> -o stratum+tcp://x11gz.ltc1btc.com:8888 -u user.01 -p x \
> 2>&1 | ./findingnemo.py x11gzltc1btccom8888
..............................
-----> 234ac92d8dad73c9320d7fcb69ddf95cdb9... 234ac92d8dad73c9320d7fcb69ddf95cdb92bfd1 XduT5BNLRzRFVJt2813ZPu12UmTegQ1UT9 x11ltc1btccom
..........^C

~/findingnemo> /opt/shm/darkcoin-cpuminer-1.3-avx-aes -t 2 -a X11  -D -P -o stratum+tcp://x11gz.ltc1btc.com:8888 -u user.01 -p x 2>&1 | ./findingnemo.py x11gzltc1btccom8888
..............................
-----> 234ac92d8dad73c9320d7fcb69ddf95cdb9... 234ac92d8dad73c9320d7fcb69ddf95cdb92bfd1 XduT5BNLRzRFVJt2813ZPu12UmTegQ1UT9 x11ltc1btccom
..........
-----> 234ac92d8dad73c9320d7fcb69ddf95cdb9... 234ac92d8dad73c9320d7fcb69ddf95cdb92bfd1 XduT5BNLRzRFVJt2813ZPu12UmTegQ1UT9 x11ltc1btccom
....^C

~/findingnemo> /opt/shm/darkcoin-cpuminer-1.3-avx-aes -t 2 -a X11  -D -P -o stratum+tcp://x11gz.ltc1btc.com:8888 -u user.01 -p x 2>&1 | ./findingnemo.py x11gzltc1btccom8888
..............................
-----> 52f51cd0e397b32894b36f9d2136ff70e61... 52f51cd0e397b32894b36f9d2136ff70e6116fdd XiFUshj1S4oEgAzB1KnAXFrgUGPxkAyupT x11ltc1btccom
....^C

no logic - quick and dirty.
https://gist.github.com/chaeplin/f89ca587b0f5374599ca

Need pool address to test..

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July 08, 2014, 08:12:50 PM
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yes, but money laundering is and thats basically what a masternode does.

"Money laundering is the process whereby the proceeds of crime are transformed into ostensibly legitimate money or other assets."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Money_laundering

MNs are only obfuscating Darkcoin transactions, i.e. turning them into cash like transactions.
I agree. I don't plan to do anything illegal. But does this sound improbable?
A terrorist organization gets paid in DRK (They accept BTC now...) the transaction was somehow associated with a masternode. This node is associated with you. There's a knock on the door...

A terrorist comes into your shop and buys a sandwich. OMG you have aided a terrorist, the guvthugs will come for you!

Funny isn't it that nobody is worried about the 'actual' terrorists, but everyone is terrified of being fucked over by their own government.

STOP LIVING IN FEAR AND FIGHT THESE FUCKERS EVERY CHANCE YOU GET

Because the government uses "OMG teh Terrorizmzorz!" as an excuse to be much, much worse itself.

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July 08, 2014, 08:15:24 PM
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NEED DARKCOIN BUT HAVE NO MONEY?
There are MANY government assistance programs available that if you qualify can help you get some free darkcoins! One thing you can do is get the free cell phones they give to low income and then sell the entire phone with the minutes it comes with to someone for a set amount or monthly dues. Another thing is EBT cards. You can get food assistance and trade that for money that can be used to purchase darkcoins! Another good tactic is to apply for SSI. Fake an injury that makes it impossible for you to work, use the monthly checks on as much dark as you can get! Any other ideas welcome.

Doesn't work for me.

Am I not feeding the machine when I keep using it?
Government programs are like a protection racket: innocent people are forced at gunpoint to pay taxes, and you have to jump thru many hoops to get some of the money back or to qualify for a program.

I will never work for government, never accept or beg for handouts...

I'd rather work to create an independent system OUTSIDE of government, and make government obsolete over time.

Your plan actually makes the government machine stronger, don't you see?
You think you are hurting government when in reality you become complicit with its exploitation.

The problem with it is that most of the people who accept it become reliant. The money is tax money that was stolen from people anyway so I'm always in favor of getting some of that money back anyway you can with out forcing the creation of bigger government. If you don't NEED the assistance, aren't reliant and use it to take money out of circulation and into darkcoin, it will benefit dark.

Yeah all that stolen money being used to fund schools, build roads that YOU drive on, funding research for life saving medical treatments, build and operate airports so people can travel, pay for the fire fighter,  the list goes on and on.

You and your ideals are just crumbs in the whole scheme of things.  Those that think all government is bad are just ignorant.
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July 08, 2014, 08:15:58 PM
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and guns are stupid, period

Guns exist. The problem lies in the fact that the bad guys with guns often outnumber the good guys with guns.

All good guys and gals should have the ability to defend themselves and their loved ones, and their property.

Happy thoughts of puppy dogs and rainbows won't save you from being raped in an alleyway or extorted by armies of jackbooted thugs. But having a gun and knowing how to use it might. I am 100% in favour of gun ownership and good training. And I'm a Brit. Wink

Oh and reading this thread today has made me proud to be a part of this community. Smiley

@ r-ando - where do I find more details of your charity/foundation? I would like to contribute some of my Masternode profits.
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July 08, 2014, 08:18:45 PM
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NEED DARKCOIN BUT HAVE NO MONEY?
There are MANY government assistance programs available that if you qualify can help you get some free darkcoins! One thing you can do is get the free cell phones they give to low income and then sell the entire phone with the minutes it comes with to someone for a set amount or monthly dues. Another thing is EBT cards. You can get food assistance and trade that for money that can be used to purchase darkcoins! Another good tactic is to apply for SSI. Fake an injury that makes it impossible for you to work, use the monthly checks on as much dark as you can get! Any other ideas welcome.

Doesn't work for me.

Am I not feeding the machine when I keep using it?
Government programs are like a protection racket: innocent people are forced at gunpoint to pay taxes, and you have to jump thru many hoops to get some of the money back or to qualify for a program.

I will never work for government, never accept or beg for handouts...

I'd rather work to create an independent system OUTSIDE of government, and make government obsolete over time.

Your plan actually makes the government machine stronger, don't you see?
You think you are hurting government when in reality you become complicit with its exploitation.

The problem with it is that most of the people who accept it become reliant. The money is tax money that was stolen from people anyway so I'm always in favor of getting some of that money back anyway you can with out forcing the creation of bigger government. If you don't NEED the assistance, aren't reliant and use it to take money out of circulation and into darkcoin, it will benefit dark.

Yeah all that stolen money being used to fund schools, build roads that YOU drive on, funding research for life saving medical treatments, build and operate airports so people can travel, pay for the fire fighter,  the list goes on and on.

You and your ideals are just crumbs in the whole scheme of things.  Those that think all government is bad are just ignorant.

Lulz. Dude you're an idiot.. leave this forum and go back to your centralized life and centralized currency.

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July 08, 2014, 08:19:21 PM
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Again, using social Marxism to try and pressure me into acting in what you define as a socially acceptable manner. Why are the people demonstrating, people attacked, 'punks'? I think most of you are in the wrong place, darkcoin was never meant to be a mainstream, good samaritan coin. it was meant for the dark web, for anarchists, and for libertarians.  It's so we can avoid illegal taxes and can purchase goods outside the spying eyes of big brother. There are two different types of anarchist, and we don't get along at all, actually polar opposite. And if you put these two types of anarchists in the same room they will never see eye to eye. I am an anarcho-capitalist.. the other is an anarcho-communist which is what an "anarchist" has traditionally been. I hate commies.  

It's not about socially acceptable manner. It's about first principles. Do unto others as you would have them do to you (Golden Rule)

Punks are still statists who don't want to get rid of government, they would rather have THEIR OWN kind of tyrannical government to boss people around the way THEY like.
People who are demonstrating are never anarchists... demonstrators are still statists and still believe they can change government by playing by its rules (voting the right politician, passing legislation xy, etc)
Anarchists don't demonstrate, they simply boycott and refuse any cooperation with statists and government.

How can you be an anarcho-capitalist but desire to get free stuff from government???

Your "plan" makes totally no sense to me, desiring free stuff is totally socialistic to me (and you blame me for using social marxism???).
Nothing is free, someone else has to pay for it.
It's about the moral principles you know. You need principles if you want to be a true anarchist, or else you are just an opporunistic punk who gives a crap about society and likes to "game" the system for his own benefit.

Government is like cancer, I do not want or need ANYTHING from them.
If you accept free stuff from government, you are helping the cancer grow.
I am not going to use this cancer for my own benefit... instead I am going to shun it and help create the system I always dreamed about: Freedom based on morality and voluntaryism.



Why would you treat others the way you want to be treated? Wouldn't it be smarter to treat them the way they want to be treated? Not everyone wants to be treated the way you like to be treated so that's not much of a golden rule.
It's money that was stolen and should be reclaimed. You talk about being placid over taxes but I think the ones who are truly accepting are the ones just blindly paying. If you understand that taxes is theft and that money belongs to you and you have the right to reclaim it any way you can, then you should pursue it. Government money will just be used to drop bombs on brown people somewhere or to buy cheeseburgers for a family of degenerates so why not get as much as you can and put it towards something worthy?

How can you be an anarcho-capitalist but desire to get free stuff from government???

You already said it yourself, nothing's free. I have had to pay taxes on items I have purchased, so it's mine.
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July 08, 2014, 08:22:52 PM
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Another thing you guys can do to get more crypto is apply for government assistance (welfare, social security, or WHATEVER they are giving away for free) and just convert it into crypto. Or at the very least donate it to an anarchist society. Even if you don't NEED government assistance, you can still accept it and give it away to groups that are going to use it for a good cause.
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July 08, 2014, 08:23:59 PM
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On another note. Cloakcoin is an amazing investment right now

Why is everybody selling at the moment then ?

It's tanking.
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July 08, 2014, 08:24:48 PM
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Another thing you guys can do to get more crypto is apply for government assistance (welfare, social security, or WHATEVER they are giving away for free) and just convert it into crypto. Or at the very least donate it to an anarchist society. Even if you don't NEED government assistance, you can still accept it and give it away to groups that are going to use it for a good cause.
I like you...

that makes 1 out of 1000.. sounds about right.
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July 08, 2014, 08:25:33 PM
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MineP.it, apparently, are in the process of updating their pool !! Big round to them, thank you Dan!

 Pool Police stats update tonight.

Currently this pool has 91 GH/s !! and the biggest piece of the pie in terms of hashrate. I Think they're chinese
Use google translator to help navigate


http://x11.ltc1btc.com/

here is the link to the contact form. (will not work under google translate though)

http://x11.ltc1btc.com/index.php?page=contactform

Please send them a friendly notice to update! The fork is imminent, and they'll have 100% orphaned blocks. These guys are the biggest anchor right now we have! Send them this link please. Be nice about it, no need to antagonise!

http://wiki.darkcoin.eu/wiki/Important

Lets get this show on the road folk!

Bumping myself. Though I will let it roll a few more hours until update. Tomorrow morning.
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July 08, 2014, 08:25:46 PM
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On another note. Cloakcoin is an amazing investment right now

Why is everybody selling at the moment then ?

It's tanking.


How is it tanking? Its went from a 55k floor to 76k. Is that what you call tanking? I call that an organic rise in value not to be associated with a pump or dump.

https://www.mintpal.com/market/CLOAK/BTC

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July 08, 2014, 08:26:05 PM
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Again, using social Marxism to try and pressure me into acting in what you define as a socially acceptable manner. Why are the people demonstrating, people attacked, 'punks'? I think most of you are in the wrong place, darkcoin was never meant to be a mainstream, good samaritan coin. it was meant for the dark web, for anarchists, and for libertarians.  It's so we can avoid illegal taxes and can purchase goods outside the spying eyes of big brother. There are two different types of anarchist, and we don't get along at all, actually polar opposite. And if you put these two types of anarchists in the same room they will never see eye to eye. I am an anarcho-capitalist.. the other is an anarcho-communist which is what an "anarchist" has traditionally been. I hate commies.  

It's not about socially acceptable manner. It's about first principles. Do unto others as you would have them do to you (Golden Rule)

Punks are still statists who don't want to get rid of government, they would rather have THEIR OWN kind of tyrannical government to boss people around the way THEY like.
People who are demonstrating are never anarchists... demonstrators are still statists and still believe they can change government by playing by its rules (voting the right politician, passing legislation xy, etc)
Anarchists don't demonstrate, they simply boycott and refuse any cooperation with statists and government.

How can you be an anarcho-capitalist but desire to get free stuff from government???

Your "plan" makes totally no sense to me, desiring free stuff is totally socialistic to me (and you blame me for using social marxism???).
Nothing is free, someone else has to pay for it.
It's about the moral principles you know. You need principles if you want to be a true anarchist, or else you are just an opporunistic punk who gives a crap about society and likes to "game" the system for his own benefit.

Government is like cancer, I do not want or need ANYTHING from them.
If you accept free stuff from government, you are helping the cancer grow.
I am not going to use this cancer for my own benefit... instead I am going to shun it and help create the system I always dreamed about: Freedom based on morality and voluntaryism.



Why would you treat others the way you want to be treated? Wouldn't it be smarter to treat them the way they want to be treated? Not everyone wants to be treated the way you like to be treated so that's not much of a golden rule.
It's money that was stolen and should be reclaimed. You talk about being placid over taxes but I think the ones who are truly accepting are the ones just blindly paying. If you understand that taxes is theft and that money belongs to you and you have the right to reclaim it any way you can, then you should pursue it. Government money will just be used to drop bombs on brown people somewhere or to buy cheeseburgers for a family of degenerates so why not get as much as you can and put it towards something worthy?

How can you be an anarcho-capitalist but desire to get free stuff from government???

You already said it yourself, nothing's free. I have had to pay taxes on items I have purchased, so it's mine.

+1

Every penny you don't pay the bad guys in the first place is a penny they can't do bad things with. And every penny you can wrangle back out of them is also a penny they can't do bad things with.

Completely ignoring the enemy is not the best strategy.
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July 08, 2014, 08:30:48 PM
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NEED DARKCOIN BUT HAVE NO MONEY?
There are MANY government assistance programs available that if you qualify can help you get some free darkcoins! One thing you can do is get the free cell phones they give to low income and then sell the entire phone with the minutes it comes with to someone for a set amount or monthly dues. Another thing is EBT cards. You can get food assistance and trade that for money that can be used to purchase darkcoins! Another good tactic is to apply for SSI. Fake an injury that makes it impossible for you to work, use the monthly checks on as much dark as you can get! Any other ideas welcome.
I enjoy watching ignorant anarchists like you get pepper sprayed and shot with rubber bullets.

Here's what we do to your kind where I come from.  Is this you bitch?


u mad, pig?
If a corrupt concept such as public assistance exists, it can't be used for anything but abuse. May as well take back what's yours and put it in DRK... Ever heard George Carlin's "Drink the Water" rant?

Socialism fails by collapsing under it's own weight. Add to the burden wherever you can, for your own benefit.

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July 08, 2014, 08:31:13 PM
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Kristov Atlas: Have a very dark week !!!! LOL this guy is sooo cool, I will be tuning in regularily, thanks for the link.
Can we stop reposting this police brutality pic. Thx

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July 08, 2014, 08:32:42 PM
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How is it tanking? Its went from a 55k floor to 76k. Is that what you call tanking? I call that an organic rise in value not to be associated with a pump or dump.

ok, fair enough, could just be a correction, but it was at 0.0009.

In wallet trading is no big deal anymore - every POS coin and his dog is getting it. NxT already has digital asset trading by the bucketload going on right now. Anon is no big deal anymore.

decentralized Paypal/Ebay ecosystem for the darknet is interesting, but these kinds of things are all value-added features like Blackcoin et al got. They're not something that is a "game changer", they are "pumper" features.

I can see it getting a bit of a pump out of it but what makes you think it's an order-of-magnitude thing ?
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July 08, 2014, 08:34:48 PM
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Lulz. When the dollar crashes and IT WILL the government will come down with it. Then I will personally enjoy watching the pigs that beat down unarmed civilians and pepper sprayed protestors get the shit kicked out of them by mob justice.
Why watch when you can participate? Scared bro?

I'm geared up to hunt the fuckers. Just waiting for their own endgame to unfold and it'll be my turn to make it blow up in their face...

The real anarchists are the people devaluing the dollar and driving the country into endless debt which will eventually destroy government (ironically they are the ones in power).
You have no idea what you're talking about...

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July 08, 2014, 08:36:40 PM
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Why would you treat others the way you want to be treated? Wouldn't it be smarter to treat them the way they want to be treated? Not everyone wants to be treated the way you like to be treated so that's not much of a golden rule.
It's money that was stolen and should be reclaimed. You talk about being placid over taxes but I think the ones who are truly accepting are the ones just blindly paying. If you understand that taxes is theft and that money belongs to you and you have the right to reclaim it any way you can, then you should pursue it. Government money will just be used to drop bombs on brown people somewhere or to buy cheeseburgers for a family of degenerates so why not get as much as you can and put it towards something worthy?

If they kept the money they stole from you separated somewhere so that you could reclaim your money back, I would understand it.
But that's not the case.
Government makes you complicit by giving you the money of someone else.

Listen, if you are sometimes morally unsure in such situations, I found it helpful to replace the words taxation or stealing with the word RAPE. Then suddenly everything becomes absolutely clear.

So they stole from you, and now you think you can steal the money back.
So you were raped by government and now you think that you are somehow entitled to rape someone else.

That's also what you mean when you say "it would be smarter to treat them the way they want to be treated"... sounds very self-righteous to me.
I have the impression that your desire to be an anarchist doesn't come from moral principles but is more like an act of rage... And act of revenge.
You were hurt and now you want to hurt someone.

You never have the right to hurt someone. You only have the right to defend yourself.

I hope that one day, millions of people will stand up and hunt the tax collectors away, like they did before.
THAT would be morally acceptable. Not believing that one wrong justifies another wrong.

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July 08, 2014, 08:39:36 PM
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Another thing you guys can do to get more crypto is apply for government assistance (welfare, social security, or WHATEVER they are giving away for free) and just convert it into crypto. Or at the very least donate it to an anarchist society. Even if you don't NEED government assistance, you can still accept it and give it away to groups that are going to use it for a good cause.
One of the dumbest posts I've read.

The only thing I'll ever give to an anarchist is a swift kick to the ass.
Anarchism just means "without rulers". It doesn't mean skinheads & mohawks. & I don't agree with BigC hurling insults & telling everyone to go f* themselves. This kind of behaviour re-inforces the idea that we need rulers if we can't act like respectful adults. BigC are you just a little immature or are you a paid troll to make anarchists look like spoiled children ? No Offense meant, please be respectful. This is one of the few places in the world where anti-establishment views are not threatened with a swift kick to the ass by default. People are open to such ideas here. Let's not ruin that by being childish.

If one fraudulently gets government assistance & then donates it to an anti-establishment organization, then how is that different from the theft we are against in the first place? We don't need to lie or rob anyone, logic & truth will prevail. But behaving with honor is very important, otherwise how can anyone take what is said seriously...
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one can not 'fraudulently' obtain something that was stolen from them. By your logic if someone comes and steals something from you it becomes legally theirs and if you tried to take it back you would be the one stealing? Please use your brain... think things through FULLY before you just regurgitate the first non-sense your tv brain reflects.
If someone steals your bike, and you see it.. then you can take it back.. if it is stolen and you see it any other day in the city.. you can not take it back..
You need to speak to Camosoul. He's got some guns you can use. You can get anything back, except fungible DRKs
I fail to see what guns have to do with it, but I'll be happy to help people take back what is stolen from them anytime...

The best way to get welfare money back into the pockets of those from whom it was stolen, is sell drugs on a dark market. Most of them are welfare turds spending your tax money on drugs. They're so stupid they can't even grow a damn weed for themselves... And you don't have to cash it out. Just do it small time and save all the crypto you get... Easiest way to get crypto there ever was and since you're not cashing out, no trail to get caught... Sets everything right. BTC literally grows on trees. Why spend fiat to get it?

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July 08, 2014, 08:41:02 PM
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