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[Tulsene]

for tesnet only

****** PLEASE UPDATE TO v9.13.4 (Stable) OR 10.13.4 (RC) *******

It looks like development should start slowing down here soon and we can prep for a full release of RC5 on mainnet. If anyone else has anything they'd like to see in RC5, now would be the time to get it into Jira.

I'm planning on doing two or three more versions, then after that we'll do a final test to make sure Darksend works properly with three participants. Currently Darksend is setup to use 2 clients per Darksend transaction. This is not an ideal amount of participants to use for Darksend but it's been very convenient for testing purposes. Changing this setting to three participants alone adds another layer of anonymity and increased protection from a sybil attacks.

- Fixed issue with denominating small amounts of DRK in large wallet (http://jira.darkcoin.qa/browse/DRK-46)
- Made splitting up initial inputs much more efficient. Now when splitting up, it will use powers of two from 4096 DRK in reverse to get the best possible mix of inputs for the next phase without any bloat to the blockchain or to the users wallet.
- Fixed "transaction too large" due to the initial splitting function
- Stopeed collateral/fee creation when it should have been doing a full split instead
- Sometimes the client would denominate less than the intended amount, then do small denominations to make up the difference. This slowed down the transactions and created extra transactions that weren't needed.
- Darksend should anonymize very close to the intended amount now
- Added Amount/Rounds to overview screen so you can see current settings
- Overview darksend cache is cleared on settings change (will instantly update)
- Fixed issue with completed amount jumping around (http://jira.darkcoin.qa/browse/DRK-46)
- Made messages less threatening (http://jira.darkcoin.qa/browse/DRK-60)

PS : Please move testing funds to a new wallet. This version has massive optimizations for the way inputs are stored and split up. This will make everything much more efficient.

Stable Binaries
http://www.darkcoin.io/downloads/master-rc5/darkcoin-qt
http://www.darkcoin.io/downloads/master-rc5/darkcoind

RC5 Binaries
http://www.darkcoin.io/downloads/rc5/darkcoin-qt
http://www.darkcoin.io/downloads/rc5/darkcoind

eduffield, https://darkcointalk.org/threads/rc5-testing.2245/page-22

great news, thanks to the darkcoin devs

[camosoul]

THIS IS FOR TESTNET ONLY

****** PLEASE UPDATE TO v9.13.4 (Stable) OR 10.13.4 (RC) *******

It looks like development should start slowing down here soon and we can prep for a full release of RC5 on mainnet. If anyone else has anything they'd like to see in RC5, now would be the time to get it into Jira.

I'm planning on doing two or three more versions, then after that we'll do a final test to make sure Darksend works properly with three participants. Currently Darksend is setup to use 2 clients per Darksend transaction. This is not an ideal amount of participants to use for Darksend but it's been very convenient for testing purposes. Changing this setting to three participants alone adds another layer of anonymity and increased protection from a sybil attacks.

- Fixed issue with denominating small amounts of DRK in large wallet (http://jira.darkcoin.qa/browse/DRK-46)
- Made splitting up initial inputs much more efficient. Now when splitting up, it will use powers of two from 4096 DRK in reverse to get the best possible mix of inputs for the next phase without any bloat to the blockchain or to the users wallet.
- Fixed "transaction too large" due to the initial splitting function
- Stopeed collateral/fee creation when it should have been doing a full split instead
- Sometimes the client would denominate less than the intended amount, then do small denominations to make up the difference. This slowed down the transactions and created extra transactions that weren't needed.
- Darksend should anonymize very close to the intended amount now
- Added Amount/Rounds to overview screen so you can see current settings
- Overview darksend cache is cleared on settings change (will instantly update)
- Fixed issue with completed amount jumping around (http://jira.darkcoin.qa/browse/DRK-46)
- Made messages less threatening (http://jira.darkcoin.qa/browse/DRK-60)

PS : Please move testing funds to a new wallet. This version has massive optimizations for the way inputs are stored and split up. This will make everything much more efficient.

Stable Binaries
http://www.darkcoin.io/downloads/master-rc5/darkcoin-qt
http://www.darkcoin.io/downloads/master-rc5/darkcoind

RC5 Binaries
http://www.darkcoin.io/downloads/rc5/darkcoin-qt
http://www.darkcoin.io/downloads/rc5/darkcoind

eduffield, https://darkcointalk.org/threads/rc5-testing.2245/page-22

great news, thanks to the darkcoin devs

[coins101]

This guy just says don't trust any ZeroCash implementations

http://youtu.be/YXazVMYkE1M?t=29m58s

Trap doors.
 

(I guess they will be working on a way to get over this flaw, but for now, its flawed).

[Tulsene]

sorry I forget to specify but the link show it?

[coins101]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=775253.0 Satoshi dox is on Darknet ?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=775174.0 satoshin @ gmx.com is compromised

Related to drop?  

Someone hacked Satoshi account

[_evolution_]

Guys , what is the target price for RC5 ? Is it 20 USD ?

IMO we will go to 0,1-0,15 and after this there will be a correction and then slow slow up with addoption.

You live in a dream world...

Do you remember the times of RC2 and DRK price going above 15 USD. The fault was ours .. RC2 didnt work like RC3 . But now we are closer than ever to finished open source anonymous cryptocurrency .People should acknowledge that .
If you do not have the technical knowledge to decide for yourself , just wait for the auditions on Darkcoin from the Biggest names in crypto world.

I see $20 being a ways off. 1000% increase takes serious money getting involved. Moreover because there are a lot of people who are down at the moment who will be looking to sell (at least partially) as soon as it rises above X. This was not at all the case last time the price hit $20.

That being said, historic price may does not guarantee what will happen with price, but it's important to consider. Because the price already hit $10 once makes it emotionally easier for investors for it to reach that point again, it's not an ATH.

But what actually drives these markets - small cap markets - is what the whales do. Now as we've seen, there have been a few whale dumps, and while they would have crushed most other coins, darkcoin was fine. The  $50,000 single buy on mintpal at 70 a few days ago for example. So there are whales out there biding their time.

But I'm looking to hit $5 before I even think about $20 (both of which are coming soon enough )

While your sentiments are not illogical, they tend to obscure the whole picture of the anon market. All fiat money walk around the planet each day, 3 or 4 times per day to be more concrete. And most of this money TX represent the grey economy, which makes it impossible to send these amounts at prime costs - someone needs to sweep up the trace (take the NATO black budget for example). That's where DARK comes into play. Money sent and received at prime cost. Do the math for yourself - how would someone send $1B in DARK while the price is under $150?

[innergy]

Up or Down.. looking for 0.008 

[LOL1993]

Up or Down.. looking for 0.008 

It must be down.No offense but i think the time of DRK have gone.

[patrolman]

One thing that never ceases to amaze in this thread is number of losers posting anti-DRK material. If DRK is so finished, what are they doing following the thread?

[BrainShutdown]

Up or Down.. looking for 0.008 

It must be down.No offense but i think the time of DRK have gone.

Why? Have you found another anon coin out there that really works?    

[BrainShutdown]

Join RC5 TESTING over at the official forum


https://darkcointalk.org/threads/rc5-testing.2245/

[Terzo]

One thing that never ceases to amaze in this thread is number of losers posting anti-DRK material. If DRK is so finished, what are they doing following the thread?

Exactly ! What these losers doing in "death" coin tread ? And Losers is the best qualification for those kind of people.
Go buy some Litecoin and Dogecoin losers .

[innergy]

Up or Down.. looking for 0.008 

It must be down.No offense but i think the time of DRK have gone.

More slope, more power.. we are goin' up  

[defunctec]

One thing that never ceases to amaze in this thread is number of losers posting anti-DRK material. If DRK is so finished, what are they doing following the thread?

Also, why are 10s of people involved with testing

https://darkcointalk.org/threads/rc5-testing.2245/page-23

A jira where a lot of work is being done

http://jira.darkcoin.qa/browse/DRK/?selectedTab=com.atlassian.jira.jira-projects-plugin:summary-panel

Dark is dead, whats the point lolz

[_evolution_]

One thing that never ceases to amaze in this thread is number of losers posting anti-DRK material. If DRK is so finished, what are they doing following the thread?

Also, why are 10s of people involved with testing

https://darkcointalk.org/threads/rc5-testing.2245/page-23

A jira where a lot of work is being done

http://jira.darkcoin.qa/browse/DRK/?selectedTab=com.atlassian.jira.jira-projects-plugin:summary-panel

Dark is dead, whats the point lolz

wise man you are the point is

Now, if you don't mind, fuck off.

[TheTruth4]

Up or Down.. looking for 0.008 

It must be down.No offense but i think the time of DRK have gone.

We'll see about that. Once we go open source there's gonna be quite a buzz. I think we'll get back to $13 per DRK.  

[Bidcoind]

Sell & Buy stuff with dark including coins

www.bidcoind.com
http://mobile.marinecoin.org/download/stuff/bidcoind/bidcoind.gifhttp://mobile.marinecoin.org/download/stuff/bidcoind/Buy-and-Sells.jpghttp://mobile.marinecoin.org/download/stuff/bidcoind/globalsign.jpghttp://mobile.marinecoin.org/download/stuff/bidcoind/auctions.jpghttp://mobile.marinecoin.org/download/stuff/bidcoind/mtcalls.jpg
http://mobile.marinecoin.org/download/stuff/bidcoind/bidcoind_site1.png

[droptable]

We'll see about that. Once we go open source there's gonna be quite a buzz. I think we'll get back to $13 per DRK.  

I dont think that. and it would be unhealthy.

it s more likely to settle between 0.007 and 0.01 for a while after.
And it wouldn't attract all the whales. After the whales have played their games, the price is most times lower than bevore.
So lets hope for a stable small and steady increase instead of a "to da moon".

[TaoOfSaatoshi]

This is a copy of my submission to the dev team in jira this morning. Tell me what you think:

DarkMix: A New Road

When Darkcoin was first created, the term "Darksend" made sense because the funds were sitting in the wallets unanonymized, and when the user wanted to send the coins anonymously, he would have to engage the "Darksend" process at that time. This would be easy for the layman to understand.

Well, with RC4 came an entirely new idea by Evan (which was brilliant by the way) to pre-mix the funds before the user sends them sometime in the future. As such, I do not think the term "Darksend" accurately portrays what is technically happening with the coin after RC4.

A completely new way of anonymizing deserves a completely new term for it:

DarkMix:

This is a sexy term which really brings what is happening behind the scenes post-RC4 and explains it in a way that my mom could understand. It also could lead to easier UI explanations as follows:

"The DarkMix feature requires that you unlock your wallet so it can auto-transact with the network. Please enter your password." - Easy to understand. You need to enter your password to MIX your coins, you are not "Darksend"ing anything at this time.

"Payment to yourself" could become "DarkMix Initialization"

"Darksend Denominate" could become "DarkMix Denomination"

"N/A" could become "DarkMix Transaction, No Address"

All of the above would be easier for Mom and Pop to understand: not actually "sending" anything at the time, just mixing, anonymizing!

The above are only the technical benefits to DarkMix, from a marketing perspective it could be a potential gold mine:

"Darkcoin releases RC5, with open-source DarkMix technology"

This kind of attention-grabbing headline is just what we need right now to generate interest and curiosity in our drastically improved tech. We all know how cool Darkcoin is, but a terminology change would have a far-reaching effect amongst people (potential whales) who have written Darkcoin off as a pump and dump scheme, haven't been following us since, and may not even know that "Darksend"'s been flipped upside down, drastically improved, and is now kick-ass!

It would be a fresh start, furthering us from the "instamine" crap, the "closed source" argument and all the other growing pains of the first few months.

With the way this tech works, generating interest (and more users) right off the bat would be VERY beneficial.

I'm excited, we have a great coin here, let's show it off!!

"DarkMix" is submitted for your approval.

The term "Darksend" is very important to the history of the coin and could still be used at the time of sending, from the dropdown menu: Darksend (Use anonymous funds). In addition, it could be used in videos and promotional materials alongside DarkMix (Darkcoin featuring DarkMix/Darksend)

Thank you for reading,

Tao

http://jira.darkcoin.qa/browse/DRK-68

 

[patrolman]

This is a copy of my submission to the dev team in jira this morning. Tell me what you think:

DarkMix: A New Road

When Darkcoin was first created, the term "Darksend" made sense because the funds were sitting in the wallets unanonymized, and when the user wanted to send the coins anonymously, he would have to engage the "Darksend" process at that time. This would be easy for the layman to understand.

Well, with RC4 came an entirely new idea by Evan (which was brilliant by the way) to pre-mix the funds before the user sends them sometime in the future. As such, I do not think the term "Darksend" accurately portrays what is technically happening with the coin after RC4.

A completely new way of anonymizing deserves a completely new term for it:

DarkMix:

This is a sexy term which really brings what is happening behind the scenes post-RC4 and explains it in a way that my mom could understand. It also could lead to easier UI explanations as follows:

"The DarkMix feature requires that you unlock your wallet so it can auto-transact with the network. Please enter your password." - Easy to understand. You need to enter your password to MIX your coins, you are not "Darksend"ing anything at this time.

"Payment to yourself" could become "DarkMix Initialization"

"Darksend Denominate" could become "DarkMix Denomination"

"N/A" could become "DarkMix Transaction, No Address"

All of the above would be easier for Mom and Pop to understand: not actually "sending" anything at the time, just mixing, anonymizing!

The above are only the technical benefits to DarkMix, from a marketing perspective it could be a potential gold mine:

"Darkcoin releases RC5, with open-source DarkMix technology"

This kind of attention-grabbing headline is just what we need right now to generate interest and curiosity in our drastically improved tech. We all know how cool Darkcoin is, but a terminology change would have a far-reaching effect amongst people (potential whales) who have written Darkcoin off as a pump and dump scheme, haven't been following us since, and may not even know that "Darksend"'s been flipped upside down, drastically improved, and is now kick-ass!

It would be a fresh start, furthering us from the "instamine" crap, the "closed source" argument and all the other growing pains of the first few months.

With the way this tech works, generating interest (and more users) right off the bat would be VERY beneficial.

I'm excited, we have a great coin here, let's show it off!!

"DarkMix" is submitted for your approval.

The term "Darksend" is very important to the history of the coin and could still be used at the time of sending, from the dropdown menu: Darksend (Use anonymous funds). In addition, it could be used in videos and promotional materials alongside DarkMix (Darkcoin featuring DarkMix/Darksend)

Thank you for reading,

Tao

http://jira.darkcoin.qa/browse/DRK-68

 

I think it's a reasonable suggestion. DarkMix is a more self-explanatory term to describe the mixing process. As you mentioned, DarkSend could still be used to describe the process of sending pre-mixed anonymous coins.