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December 15, 2014, 10:21:42 PM
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darkcoin finally getting real code review. 

Tens of bugs and vulnerabilities have been found in prior reviews. It will take some more time (and more eyes) to make it bulletproof.

Personally I think the whole Masternode payment system should be replaced by another cleaner system that works at the protocol level. No enforcement or centralization would be necessary, while eliminating forking risk.

Perhaps the spreadcoin dev might want to have a go at such a system.



Cleaner?? protocol level? What centralisation?  Whats clean about thousands of clients going on and off every second while trying to maintain rounds of anonymity? That would juts cause mayhem. What is unclean about blind nodes with 100% uptime? And what about PoService?

 I dont get it.

I don't remember when you got on board, but prior to the semi-voluntary scheme of payments with enforcement threat, there was a direction of mandatory payments (100%) with no enforcement needed whatsoever. Unfortunately it caused forks in the production environment so then we got to a situation where some people were calling for no hard forks, others were in favor to get the job done - even if it includes a few more problematic forks as a byproduct etc etc. Then we got the spork and the rest is history.

It hasn't been forgone. Evan and Patrick were talking about ways to utilize the blockchain in terms of deciding where payment goes. The reference nodes are the intermediary step until the best course of action is decided to have consensus without forks. It certainly isn't off the table.
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December 15, 2014, 10:43:43 PM
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Don't forget to thank Mr. Spread for discovering the bug! Smiley

Thank you Mr. Spread for discovering the bug! Fixed.  Grin

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thank's Mr Spread good to have you around
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December 15, 2014, 11:58:56 PM
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darkcoin finally getting real code review.  

Tens of bugs and vulnerabilities have been found in prior reviews. It will take some more time (and more eyes) to make it bulletproof.

Personally I think the whole Masternode payment system should be replaced by another cleaner system that works at the protocol level. No enforcement or centralization would be necessary, while eliminating forking risk.

Perhaps the spreadcoin dev might want to have a go at such a system.



Cleaner?? protocol level? What centralisation?  Whats clean about thousands of clients going on and off every second while trying to maintain rounds of anonymity? That would juts cause mayhem. What is unclean about blind nodes with 100% uptime? And what about PoService?

 I dont get it.

I don't remember when you got on board, but prior to the semi-voluntary scheme of payments with enforcement threat, there was a direction of mandatory payments (100%) with no enforcement needed whatsoever. Unfortunately it caused forks in the production environment so then we got to a situation where some people were calling for no hard forks, others were in favor to get the job done - even if it includes a few more problematic forks as a byproduct etc etc. Then we got the spork and the rest is history.

There was NEVER a semi-voluntary scheme of payment. There was, on the other hand, a friendly suggestion to update clients to follow the development roadmap.

See, you've got your facts wrong. RC2, RC3 and RC5 and RC5 were all hard forks, which went wrong due lack of network reconciliation. Twice reconciliation was well underway, but Evan decided (quite responsibly) to pull the plug for the sake of taking a step back and making the code more resilient. Then the spork was invented, and yes, the rest was history. With every "blow", DRK gained exponential development. Necessity is the mother of invention.

And then we found evidence of foul play by some pools (which shall not be named). Pools are centralised, not MN's.

Decentralisation increases with each new MN going online.
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December 15, 2014, 11:59:44 PM
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darkcoin finally getting real code review.  

What's with all these "Spread" accounts now? Even Mr. Spread sounds belligerent. Not a good way to make a first impression gentlemen.

Agreed, in the politest way possible, GTFO...

The new generation have arrived and they brought their own currency...
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December 16, 2014, 01:20:04 AM
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darkcoin finally getting real code review. 

Hi spreadnodes, i don't know what's your people do when someone find out some bugs. There is no need to sarcasm here. In fact, it's encouraged to do so in the Darkcoin Community and It's what OpenSource meaning: A better Darkcoin Project.

The bugs, no matter how critical as Aswan had posted in the DCT that occurred in the protocol level or just some variables setting, they are not mean Darkcoin Project is worse than any other crypto currency. It is just the opposite that the Darkcoin Project is more and more close to perfect, and ready for actual use.

So, i'm appreciate the people that provide the bugs to our great Dev-team to fix. The community appreciate the people who contribute their private  time to the Darkcoin Project.

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December 16, 2014, 01:25:39 AM
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"Spread" that's an interesting name for a coin... at least the future holders are warned.  Grin
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December 16, 2014, 01:29:39 AM
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December 16, 2014, 01:35:26 AM
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"Spread" that's an interesting name for a coin... at least the future holders are warned.  Grin
Come on Wink
Good that the ppl look at the code and find the inperfections but there is no need to act like a peacock, anyway take your time for a pump.

BE SMART, USE DASH ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
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December 16, 2014, 01:38:37 AM
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darkcoin finally getting real code review.  

As a large investor in both Spreadcoin and Darkcoin, please stop.  You're not helping anyone or anything.

Thank you.
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December 16, 2014, 01:39:50 AM
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darkcoin finally getting real code review. 

Hi spreadnodes, i don't know what's your people do when someone find out some bugs. There is no need to sarcasm here. In fact, it's encouraged to do so in the Darkcoin Community and It's what OpenSource meaning: A better Darkcoin Project.

The bugs, no matter how critical as Aswan had posted in the DCT that occurred in the protocol level or just some variables setting, they are not mean Darkcoin Project is worse than any other crypto currency. It is just the opposite that the Darkcoin Project is more and more close to perfect, and ready for actual use.

So, i'm appreciate the people that provide the bugs to our great Dev-team to fix. The community appreciate the people who contribute their private  time to the Darkcoin Project.

spreadnodes is either just a daft kiddie or a deliberate provocateur, either way he (or she) shouldn't be taken seriously.

More devs, more users, more supporters of the Darkcoin code and economic model is only going to benefit Darkcoin.  Smiley
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December 16, 2014, 01:43:57 AM
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darkcoin finally getting real code review.  

What's with all these "Spread" accounts now? Even Mr. Spread sounds belligerent. Not a good way to make a first impression gentlemen.

The Spreadnode account is uncalled for.  But my suggestion would be to be cordial with Mr. Spread.
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December 16, 2014, 01:53:31 AM
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darkcoin finally getting real code review. 

As a large investor in both Spreadcoin and Darkcoin, please stop.  You're not helping anyone or anything.

Thank you.
Thnx MyFarm at least you understad it.
Indeed we are cordial to spread dev.

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December 16, 2014, 02:38:04 AM
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darkcoin finally getting real code review. 

Hi spreadnodes, i don't know what's your people do when someone find out some bugs. There is no need to sarcasm here. In fact, it's encouraged to do so in the Darkcoin Community and It's what OpenSource meaning: A better Darkcoin Project.

The bugs, no matter how critical as Aswan had posted in the DCT that occurred in the protocol level or just some variables setting, they are not mean Darkcoin Project is worse than any other crypto currency. It is just the opposite that the Darkcoin Project is more and more close to perfect, and ready for actual use.

So, i'm appreciate the people that provide the bugs to our great Dev-team to fix. The community appreciate the people who contribute their private  time to the Darkcoin Project.

spreadnodes is either just a daft kiddie or a deliberate provocateur, either way he (or she) shouldn't be taken seriously.

More devs, more users, more supporters of the Darkcoin code and economic model is only going to benefit Darkcoin.  Smiley


You are right, man~

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December 16, 2014, 03:10:54 AM
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darkcoin finally getting real code review. 

Tens of bugs and vulnerabilities have been found in prior reviews. It will take some more time (and more eyes) to make it bulletproof.

Personally I think the whole Masternode payment system should be replaced by another cleaner system that works at the protocol level. No enforcement or centralization would be necessary, while eliminating forking risk.

Perhaps the spreadcoin dev might want to have a go at such a system.



Cleaner?? protocol level? What centralisation?  Whats clean about thousands of clients going on and off every second while trying to maintain rounds of anonymity? That would juts cause mayhem. What is unclean about blind nodes with 100% uptime? And what about PoService?

 I dont get it.

I don't remember when you got on board, but prior to the semi-voluntary scheme of payments with enforcement threat, there was a direction of mandatory payments (100%) with no enforcement needed whatsoever. Unfortunately it caused forks in the production environment so then we got to a situation where some people were calling for no hard forks, others were in favor to get the job done - even if it includes a few more problematic forks as a byproduct etc etc. Then we got the spork and the rest is history.

It hasn't been forgone. Evan and Patrick were talking about ways to utilize the blockchain in terms of deciding where payment goes. The reference nodes are the intermediary step until the best course of action is decided to have consensus without forks. It certainly isn't off the table.

Supercoin dev has recently released Supercoin's code as open source...

http://github.com/supercoinproject/supercoin-p2p

Maybe Darkcoin devs can implement Supercoin's trust-less, multi-signature, anonymous technology into Darksend?

I'm not a coder, so I have no idea if this is possible, but theoretically it kinda makes sense to me, so I thought I'd throw it out there...

SuperSend works great btw...(SuperSend = no nodes)
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December 16, 2014, 03:14:30 AM
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It looks like everyone wants their 15min of fame.  

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December 16, 2014, 03:34:57 AM
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darkcoin finally getting real code review. 

Tens of bugs and vulnerabilities have been found in prior reviews. It will take some more time (and more eyes) to make it bulletproof.

Personally I think the whole Masternode payment system should be replaced by another cleaner system that works at the protocol level. No enforcement or centralization would be necessary, while eliminating forking risk.

Perhaps the spreadcoin dev might want to have a go at such a system.



Cleaner?? protocol level? What centralisation?  Whats clean about thousands of clients going on and off every second while trying to maintain rounds of anonymity? That would juts cause mayhem. What is unclean about blind nodes with 100% uptime? And what about PoService?

 I dont get it.

I don't remember when you got on board, but prior to the semi-voluntary scheme of payments with enforcement threat, there was a direction of mandatory payments (100%) with no enforcement needed whatsoever. Unfortunately it caused forks in the production environment so then we got to a situation where some people were calling for no hard forks, others were in favor to get the job done - even if it includes a few more problematic forks as a byproduct etc etc. Then we got the spork and the rest is history.

It hasn't been forgone. Evan and Patrick were talking about ways to utilize the blockchain in terms of deciding where payment goes. The reference nodes are the intermediary step until the best course of action is decided to have consensus without forks. It certainly isn't off the table.

Supercoin dev has recently released Supercoin's code as open source...

http://github.com/supercoinproject/supercoin-p2p

Maybe Darkcoin devs can implement Supercoin's trust-less, multi-signature, anonymous technology into Darksend?

I'm not a coder, so I have no idea if this is possible, but theoretically it kinda makes sense to me, so I thought I'd throw it out there...

SuperSend works great btw...(SuperSend = no nodes)

"Supercoin is a new X11 crypto coin, it has many new, original or advanced features." OR?Huh I read enough haha.

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December 16, 2014, 03:44:42 AM
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It looks like everyone wants their 15min of fame.  



Yeah. This really starting to get silly.
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December 16, 2014, 03:45:34 AM
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darkcoin finally getting real code review. 

Tens of bugs and vulnerabilities have been found in prior reviews. It will take some more time (and more eyes) to make it bulletproof.

Personally I think the whole Masternode payment system should be replaced by another cleaner system that works at the protocol level. No enforcement or centralization would be necessary, while eliminating forking risk.

Perhaps the spreadcoin dev might want to have a go at such a system.



Cleaner?? protocol level? What centralisation?  Whats clean about thousands of clients going on and off every second while trying to maintain rounds of anonymity? That would juts cause mayhem. What is unclean about blind nodes with 100% uptime? And what about PoService?

 I dont get it.

I don't remember when you got on board, but prior to the semi-voluntary scheme of payments with enforcement threat, there was a direction of mandatory payments (100%) with no enforcement needed whatsoever. Unfortunately it caused forks in the production environment so then we got to a situation where some people were calling for no hard forks, others were in favor to get the job done - even if it includes a few more problematic forks as a byproduct etc etc. Then we got the spork and the rest is history.

It hasn't been forgone. Evan and Patrick were talking about ways to utilize the blockchain in terms of deciding where payment goes. The reference nodes are the intermediary step until the best course of action is decided to have consensus without forks. It certainly isn't off the table.

Supercoin dev has recently released Supercoin's code as open source...

http://github.com/supercoinproject/supercoin-p2p

Maybe Darkcoin devs can implement Supercoin's trust-less, multi-signature, anonymous technology into Darksend?

I'm not a coder, so I have no idea if this is possible, but theoretically it kinda makes sense to me, so I thought I'd throw it out there...

SuperSend works great btw...(SuperSend = no nodes)

"Supercoin is a new X11 crypto coin, it has many new, original or advanced features." OR?Huh I read enough haha.

Super WHAT !
i think you are in the wrong Thread !!
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December 16, 2014, 03:58:09 AM
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Bitcoinist News Bits 15th Dec.
DRK 3 min 10 sec ....>
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https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC854riaGH45TVlxptI18v4w



Bump .....Dinner and some news ? ....>
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December 16, 2014, 04:47:02 AM
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Always looking for individuals to start the next MN

If you're Interested, please send e-mail to

escrow@darkcoin.io

When sending e-mail, ask any questions



The website is not finalized just yet but you can visit: www.unitedmasternode.com


Working in 100DRK shares
and 1DRK to get started per 100DRK for Escrow and Server fee(s)


Looking forward to hearing from you
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It is good to offer tgis service, but fees seems to be high. If you take 1drk for 100drk , the owner of that 100drk only be making .7 dark a month average. Which seens to be too low until masternodes payment reach to 60%.


Making statements like this without knowing what is actually happening is irresponsible to say the least.
Maybe some of my current clients will chime in.
And they can let you know how I am ripping people off with high fee's.

I hardly think that $1.10 to $2.00 in escrow fee a month is a high fee
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Flare's fee of approx $0.90 per 100DRK for the server is high



Well, i just got 2MN setup with flare which cost around 7.5DRK. So it is 3.75 drk ech. And if you add 1drk for 100drk , it comes up to close 14drk a month for whole 1000drk block. Considering .57drk average payment, 1000drk will return 17drk a month and eachso each 100 share will get back .7drk - I am not calling anything or saying that your are a bad person. But at that point, it is not appealing to be a art of masternode. I am entitled to have my opinion and I know what is actually hapenning.

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