TaoOfSaatoshi
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December 16, 2014, 09:14:16 PM |
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tungfa, I will change the link once you upload this video to DarkcoinTV. Let me know, bud!
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TaoOfSaatoshi
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December 16, 2014, 09:18:43 PM |
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Where is that "...cleaner more robust system where pools have zero power to cheat or not comply without forking...not dependent on enforcement...." - ? That just cant be done because if its not enforced, by definition they're free to not comply! The best thing ever is the spork itself! If they dont comply and screw the network, we can roll back safely no harm done to anyone, and back to the drawing board. This is a first in the crypto world and works like magic.
Call me biased, but I see DRK's reward solution quite elegant if not brilliant.
Initially (RC2/3) the protocol would ensure 100% compliance through a voting mechanism. The implementation had issues and it led to sporadic forks - and it was difficult to fix these issues due to the time required and the market pressure during the pump period of May/June. Then, as a workaround, the power went to the pools and the enforcement switch which, as a workaround, is not the ideal way. Hopefully one day we'll get it as it was meant to be and it will not cause sporadic forks either. You are 100% right. Would ensure 100% compliance if the network gained consensus, which it didnt. If it had, the exact same issue would, and did, happen in RC4. IIRC, the the spork was invented, and that problem seizes to exist. Because of some pool's foul play, Evan was "forced" to innovate and created yet another solution, the spork. A non enforcing mechanism that politely lets pool ops to have their time to update, and when the vast majority of the network is in compliance, flip the switch, and whoever is out, forks out. Its the opposite, no power went to the pools. Free will and choice went to the pools. It was indeed a workaround that instantly became a fabulous feature. Like in all coding history. Long live the spork! ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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sangoku
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December 16, 2014, 09:20:37 PM |
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Darkcoin Tutorial - How To Setup and Update Masternodes![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fbadbeatbag.com%2Fdarkcoinstuff%2Fyoutube01.jpg&t=665&c=J1beB4EezdD01g) -onetime Why not use LibreOffice ? ;-)
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AlexGR
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December 16, 2014, 09:21:36 PM |
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Where is that "...cleaner more robust system where pools have zero power to cheat or not comply without forking...not dependent on enforcement...." - ? That just cant be done because if its not enforced, by definition they're free to not comply! The best thing ever is the spork itself! If they dont comply and screw the network, we can roll back safely no harm done to anyone, and back to the drawing board. This is a first in the crypto world and works like magic.
Call me biased, but I see DRK's reward solution quite elegant if not brilliant.
Initially (RC2/3) the protocol would ensure 100% compliance through a voting mechanism. The implementation had issues and it led to sporadic forks - and it was difficult to fix these issues due to the time required and the market pressure during the pump period of May/June. Then, as a workaround, the power went to the pools and the enforcement switch which, as a workaround, is not the ideal way. Hopefully one day we'll get it as it was meant to be and it will not cause sporadic forks either. You are 100% right. Would ensure 100% compliance if the network gained consensus, which it didnt. In theory it should just fork out those who aren't updated and the people who run the updated client should not experience issues. If I remember correctly, the second or third time around when it was tried, the network regrouped itself but it did so in something like 20 minutes - which was more than the confirmation window (6 conifrms x 2.5m = 15m) and thus it was reversed. If it had, the exact same issue would, and did, happen in RC4. IIRC, the the spork was invented, and that problem seizes to exist. Because of some pool's foul play, Evan was "forced" to innovate and created yet another solution, the spork. A non enforcing mechanism that politely lets pool ops to have their time to update, and when the vast majority of the network is in compliance, flip the switch, and whoever is out, forks out. Its the opposite, no power went to the pools. Free will and choice went to the pools.
It was indeed a workaround that instantly became a fabulous feature. Like in all coding history.
To be honest, it still remains a workaround. There is no need to praise it beyond what it is. The code should maintain the network, not the enforcer. The spork could be useful for implementing new features in the future though.
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December 16, 2014, 09:43:44 PM |
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Darkcoin Tutorial - How To Setup and Update Masternodes![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fbadbeatbag.com%2Fdarkcoinstuff%2Fyoutube01.jpg&t=665&c=J1beB4EezdD01g) -onetime Pretty fucking cool. -twotime
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December 16, 2014, 09:52:19 PM Last edit: December 17, 2014, 11:54:49 AM by onetime |
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Darkcoin Tutorial - How To Setup and Update Masternodes![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fbadbeatbag.com%2Fdarkcoinstuff%2Fyoutube01.jpg&t=665&c=J1beB4EezdD01g) -onetime Pretty fucking cool. -twotime Well done!! Haven't seen it but cheers anyways! There was a bounty for this! Don't know if it has been claimed yet! ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Wouahhhhh, thank you very much ;-) thanks guys! ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) next I'll make a Darkcoin promotional video! ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) -onetime
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Kai Proctor
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December 16, 2014, 09:52:43 PM |
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Darkcoin Tutorial - How To Setup and Update Masternodes![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fbadbeatbag.com%2Fdarkcoinstuff%2Fyoutube01.jpg&t=665&c=J1beB4EezdD01g) -onetime Pretty fucking cool. -twotime +1 Excellent
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rentahash
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December 16, 2014, 10:31:14 PM |
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anybody knows what happen with cheaplin?
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Lukas_Jackson
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December 16, 2014, 10:41:03 PM |
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anybody knows what happen with cheaplin?
I think there are only two possibilities why he went awol
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It is easier to be an aggressive victim than to be a free man.
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thelonecrouton
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December 16, 2014, 10:49:55 PM |
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anybody knows what happen with cheaplin?
I think there are only two possibilities why he went awol I'm hoping he was recruited by SHIELD, not HYDRA.
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Artoodeetoo
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December 16, 2014, 10:50:39 PM |
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anyone know why all the selling last 24 hours?
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DASH #DashDC #DashIntoDigitalCash
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Lukas_Jackson
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December 16, 2014, 10:59:42 PM |
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anybody knows what happen with cheaplin?
I think there are only two possibilities why he went awol I'm hoping he was recruited by SHIELD, not HYDRA. Had to google it. And now I see there are more possibilities.
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It is easier to be an aggressive victim than to be a free man.
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December 16, 2014, 10:59:53 PM |
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anyone know why all the selling last 24 hours?
Might be BTC dump and some of the people want to get out to fiat.
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Lukas_Jackson
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December 16, 2014, 11:20:55 PM |
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anyone know why all the selling last 24 hours?
Merry Christmas ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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It is easier to be an aggressive victim than to be a free man.
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December 16, 2014, 11:42:00 PM |
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anyone know why all the selling last 24 hours?
Merry Christmas ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) bot which moves/playes the market for gainz
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altcoincasinogulagshoppingshow FUD is good, look @altcoin prices ... pls fud me hard via pm id appriciate that.
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Propulsion
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December 16, 2014, 11:51:42 PM |
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anybody knows what happen with cheaplin?
I think there are only two possibilities why he went awol Does anybody know his nationalaity? Chaeplin was last logged in October 8th. He doesn't respond to private messages either. He's gone.
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Lebubar
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December 17, 2014, 12:02:56 AM |
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anybody knows what happen with cheaplin?
I think there are only two possibilities why he went awol Does anybody know his nationalaity? Chaeplin was last logged in October 8th. He doesn't respond to private messages either. He's gone. Yes, but where, why? He was really active member, he really disappeared..
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December 17, 2014, 12:08:15 AM |
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$2 Darkcoin is what Ive been waiting for to stack up. Yes. Yes. Yesss.
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Im baaaack! Looking for sig campaign. DM me if interested.
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Propulsion
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December 17, 2014, 12:13:59 AM |
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anybody knows what happen with cheaplin?
I think there are only two possibilities why he went awol Does anybody know his nationalaity? Chaeplin was last logged in October 8th. He doesn't respond to private messages either. He's gone. Yes, but where, why? He was really active member, he really disappeared.. No idea. His site was fantastic and an invaluable resource. He was a great person to have involved in this project; it's a shame that he's gone. Last day he logged into this site was October 27, 2014. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=247488
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December 17, 2014, 12:18:34 AM |
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is there win wallet out there? only linux? seems like a little instamine..
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