[POOL][Scrypt][Scrypt-N][X11] Profit switching pool - wafflepool.com

[suchmoon]

i should have way more than 0.006 BTC with this Mh/s rate after an hour of mining

One hour is too soon to see meaningful stats.

But at the current rate of 0.0013 per MH/s PER DAY you are getting roughly correct numbers:

0.0013 * 120 = 0.156 per day
0.156 / 24 = 0.0065 per hour

[radeon2k8]

i should have way more than 0.006 BTC with this Mh/s rate after an hour of mining

One hour is too soon to see meaningful stats.

But at the current rate of 0.0013 per MH/s PER DAY you are getting roughly correct numbers:

0.0013 * 120 = 0.156 per day
0.156 / 24 = 0.0065 per hour

thank you for your fast reply!

seems like it's ok now, currently, after 2 hours it's says 0.01202290 BTC total
it should be fine from now

[edonkey]

Hi Poolwaffle. Is the minimum allowed difficulty for Scrypt mining limited to 256? I tried setting mine to 128, and the pool seemed to reset it to 512. This was after the discovery of new blocks (when the user is authenticated and any new difficulty determined). When I set it to 256, the pool left it there and did not reset it to 512.

It seems like 128 is reasonable for certain situations with Gridseed 5 chip ASIC rigs. Personally I've had good results with my ASIC rigs on other pools at 128.

Yes, I know that long term difficulty doesn't affect profitability. But with ASIC rigs it seems like lower difficulty is more manageable. That is, when I check on my rig's status I rarely see them falling behind. At 512 (and even 256), sometimes hundreds of seconds can go by before a share is submitted on a given Gridseed.

My concern is that if too long goes by without a submit that some mining software might think it has to reset the chips. I can't say that this is an actual problem with the software I'm using. But it certainly is nicer when I can check in on my front end GUI and see nothing but "green" units with multiple shares per minute rather than "red" units with minutes between a share.

[woytas]

For people that were helping me troubleshoot my problem before, here is the current config file that I am using. Let me know any suggestions or if you see anything fishy that might be contributing to the random crashes.

----------- cut -------------------

"intensity" : "18,16,16,16,18", <-- try intensity 16 for all cards (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=623409.msg7406125#msg7406125)

"thread-concurrency" : "8192,8192,8192,8192,8192", <---- once you sort out your problem try higher TC for 290 cards (like 20400 or 24000)

"gpu-threads" : "2", <------- I believe you should use 4 thread for 290 cards

"gpu-engine" : "947,975,975,975,947", <-- this are low try going up once you run stable

"gpu-fan" : "50,50,50,50,50", <-- I would go with 30-85 and enable the auto-fan option ("gpu-fan" : "30-85," and "auto-fan" : true,)

"gpu-memclock" : "1250,1400,1400,1400,1250",
"gpu-powertune" : "20,20,20,20,20",
"api-mcast-port" : "4028",
"api-port" : "4028",
"expiry" : "28", <-------------- make backup and delete this
"failover-switch-delay" : "60",<-- delete this
"gpu-dyninterval" : "7", <----- delete this
"gpu-platform" : "0",<-------- delete this
"log" : "5",
"no-pool-disable" : true,<--- delete this
"queue" : "1",<------------ delete this
"scan-time" : "7",<-------- delete this
"tcp-keepalive" : "30",<-------- delete this
"temp-hysteresis" : "3",
"shares" : "0",<--------- delete this
"kernel-path" : "/usr/local/bin"
}

[utahjohn]

@PW
For X11 Glyphcoin (GLYPH)

[Spacewide]

spacewide: .16, maybe .25

Thank you for replying. With diff set on 0.16 i dont have any rejects anymore, nor any stales! But.. my efficiency has dropped from 220% to 72%.

Does this have any downside on payouts?

-sw

[UniMatrixZ]

Tip: Add Razorcoin to Scrypt pool  

[TransAtlantic]

For people that were helping me troubleshoot my problem before, here is the current config file that I am using. Let me know any suggestions or if you see anything fishy that might be contributing to the random crashes.

I might be wrong about this, but this is the first thing that struck me:

{
"pools" : [
   {
      "url" : "stratum+tcp://useast.wafflepool.com:3331",
      "user" : "my address",
      "pass" : "d=0.008"
   },
   {
      "url" : "stratum+tcp://useast.wafflepool.com:3331",
      "user" : "my address",
      "pass" : "d=0.008"
   },
   {
      "url" : "stratum+tcp://useast.wafflepool.com:3331",
      "user" : "my address",
      "pass" : "d=0.008"
   },
   {
      "url" : "stratum+tcp://useast.wafflepool.com:3331",
      "user" : "my address",
      "pass" : "d=0.008"
   }
]

Why do you have 4 times the *same* pool?  You should be using the other servers as pool 1, 2 and 3, not useast everywhere.
IMO, it can only bring troubles - e.g. being denied service by raising a flag by a sensitive anti-flood/DDOS mechanism, and/or causing a bug/glitch into sgminer.

I doubt that sgminer is coded to correctly handle 4 instances of the exact same server & port.  
And again, as I said, I might be wrong about it, but I cannot imagine any use to have 4 times the same server & port.  Can anyone else confirm?


Edited for clarity:
The other pools should be the other servers:
    US East: stratum+tcp://useast.wafflepool.com:3331
    US West: stratum+tcp://uswest.wafflepool.com:3331
    Europe: stratum+tcp://eu.wafflepool.com:3331
    Asia: stratum+tcp://sea.wafflepool.com:3331

[5ick3uffalo]

Found that Wafflepool is one if not the most stable around (at least for my Gridseeds) after trying out severel others.

There is a good website where you can rate wafflepool, i just did

http://poolpicker.eu/reviews?pool=WafflePool

[haploid23]

I've been on his pool ever since it was in beta mining scrypt and I'm still on that same algo, so hopefully someone can answer this questions. It's summer time and due to heat and electric bill, I need to switch to x11 algo. If I want to switch 5mh/s of scrypt, would it also be roughly 5mh/s mining on x11? If I had the same PC hardware switching over, would profitability be more on x11, using this same pool?

[utahjohn]

You are going to get 20+MHs on X11, and reduce power costs running GPU.  Look at stats page for X11
For help with 280x and 7950 I made a post with my config ... looking for it now.

Consider also groestl algorithm I'm getting 21+MHs with a 280x+7950 and it has similar power usage reduction.

[m0narch]

I've been on his pool ever since it was in beta mining scrypt and I'm still on that same algo, so hopefully someone can answer this questions. It's summer time and due to heat and electric bill, I need to switch to x11 algo. If I want to switch 5mh/s of scrypt, would it also be roughly 5mh/s mining on x11? If I had the same PC hardware switching over, would profitability be more on x11, using this same pool?

5mh/s of scrypt would be APPROXIMATELY 20mh/s of x11... it differs a bit depending on what kind of GPUs you are using. But I also moved 5mh/s of scrypt GPUs over to x11 and am getting right around 20mh/s now. As far as profitability... you can very easily compare algos at the top of the wafflepool stats pages. It's got all 3 algos listed and their profit vs litecoin. x11 is currently a bit higher than everything but it changes frequently. Another thing that's nice is that x11 uses about half the power that scrypt does. So you'll at least save money on electricity.

[utahjohn]

Guys,  should I be able to utilize the sphsgminer from lasybear  to mine x11 if I have the amd 13.1 techpowerup modded gpu driver installed,  or do I have to go to the amd 14.1 drivers?  I'm getting all hw errors and no accepted shares.  

My miner is running six sapphire HD7950 cards.  It shows them all hashing,  but getting nothing but hw errors.  I've changed a few settings and while searching for answers,  I saw that a lot of folks have had issues with a new 14.4 beta driver and went back to a 14.1 version.    

My modded 13.1 driver was a pain in the ass to get all six of my cards going to begin with, and it has worked for scrypt and scrypt-n,  so I want to ask if anyone is mining with the modded 13.1 driver before I start stripping it out and loading  a newer one.  

I can post my config,  but I'm actively changing it right now in hopes of solving my issue.  

Be sure to completely remove all old AMD driver using DDU https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/550192/geforce-drivers/display-driver-uninstaller-ddu-v12-9-3-2-released-06-05-14-/
Get new 14.4 driver at http://support.amd.com/en-us/download
Also delete all *.bin files in miner directory so they will be recompiled by new driver.

Here's my working config for HD7950 doing 2.8MHs and 0.040 WU (sgminer 4.1 x11x13mod) and 14.4 catalyst whql:
{
"pools" : [
   {
      "url" : "stratum+tcp://uswest.wafflepool.com:3331",
      "user" : "1HANJQygp3jHuzutceBgMT7wfCgEug6h4L_gpu2",
      "pass" : "d=0.008"
   }
]
,
"intensity" : "16",
"worksize" : "256",
"kernel" : "x11mod",
"lookup-gap" : "2",
"thread-concurrency" : "24000",
"shaders" : "1792",
"gpu-threads" : "4",
"gpu-engine" : "1065-1100",
"gpu-fan" : "60-100",
"auto-fan" : true,
"gpu-memclock" : "1250",
"gpu-memdiff" : "0",
"gpu-powertune" : "0",
"gpu-vddc" : "0.000",
"temp-cutoff" : "95",
"temp-overheat" : "85",
"temp-target" : "70",
"api-mcast-port" : "4028",
"api-port" : "4028",
"expiry" : "60",
"failover-switch-delay" : "60",
"gpu-dyninterval" : "7",
"gpu-platform" : "0",
"log" : "5",
"no-pool-disable" : true,
"queue" : "0",
"scan-time" : "59",
"tcp-keepalive" : "30",
"temp-hysteresis" : "2",
"shares" : "0",
"kernel-path" : "/usr/local/bin",
"no-client-reconnect" : true,
"no-submit-stale" : true
}


For R9 280X doing 3.05Mhs and 0.045WU:
Intensity 16 crashes display driver frequently so I backed it down to 15.{
"pools" : [
   {
      "url" : "stratum+tcp://uswest.wafflepool.com:3331",
      "user" : "1HANJQygp3jHuzutceBgMT7wfCgEug6h4L_gpu3",
      "pass" : "d=0.008"
   }
]
,
"intensity" : "15",
"worksize" : "256",
"kernel" : "x11mod",
"show-coindiff" : true,
"lookup-gap" : "2",
"thread-concurrency" : "24576",
"shaders" : "2048",
"gpu-threads" : "4",
"gpu-engine" : "1050-1080",
"gpu-fan" : "70-100",
"auto-fan" : true,
"gpu-memclock" : "1600",
"gpu-memdiff" : "0",
"gpu-powertune" : "0",
"gpu-vddc" : "0.000",
"temp-cutoff" : "95",
"temp-overheat" : "85",
"temp-target" : "70",
"api-mcast-port" : "4028",
"api-port" : "4028",
"expiry" : "30",
"failover-switch-delay" : "60",
"gpu-dyninterval" : "7",
"gpu-platform" : "0",
"log" : "5",
"no-pool-disable" : true,
"queue" : "0",
"scan-time" : "29",
"tcp-keepalive" : "30",
"temp-hysteresis" : "2",
"shares" : "0",
"kernel-path" : "/usr/local/bin",
"no-client-reconnect" : true,
"no-submit-stale" : true
}

I'll play around with TC a bit and see if I can improve

If anyone has a starting point for "rawintensity" setting for either of these cards please post working config

[GoldBit89]

is everyone sure that for x11 it is 4 x of script? I was mining with a 750 ti evga  superclocked from factory at 1305MHz and getting 250-260 khashes script using latest cuda miner and with no fine tuning or anything, just using wafflepool config setup using latest ccminer im averaging 2.5 to 2.6 mhashes which would be 10 times of script. And all this is running at 54C for 19 hours now.

[2014-06-21 19:58:02] GPU #0: GeForce GTX 750 Ti, 2548 khash/s
[2014-06-21 19:58:02] accepted: 1846/1849 (99.84%), 2548 khash/s (yay!!!)
[2014-06-21 19:58:11] Stratum detected new block
[2014-06-21 19:58:11] GPU #0: GeForce GTX 750 Ti, 2597 khash/s
[2014-06-21 19:58:14] GPU #0: GeForce GTX 750 Ti, 2452 khash/s
[2014-06-21 19:58:14] accepted: 1847/1850 (99.84%), 2452 khash/s (yay!!!)
[2014-06-21 19:58:25] Stratum detected new block
[2014-06-21 19:58:25] GPU #0: GeForce GTX 750 Ti, 2573 khash/s

so is this right?

[suchmoon]

is everyone sure that for x11 it is 4 x of script? I was mining with a 750 ti evga  superclocked from factory at 1305MHz and getting 250-260 khashes script using latest cuda miner and with no fine tuning or anything, just using wafflepool config setup using latest ccminer im averaging 2.5 to 2.6 mhashes which would be 10 times of script. And all this is running at 54C for 19 hours now.

[2014-06-21 19:58:02] GPU #0: GeForce GTX 750 Ti, 2548 khash/s
[2014-06-21 19:58:02] accepted: 1846/1849 (99.84%), 2548 khash/s (yay!!!)
[2014-06-21 19:58:11] Stratum detected new block
[2014-06-21 19:58:11] GPU #0: GeForce GTX 750 Ti, 2597 khash/s
[2014-06-21 19:58:14] GPU #0: GeForce GTX 750 Ti, 2452 khash/s
[2014-06-21 19:58:14] accepted: 1847/1850 (99.84%), 2452 khash/s (yay!!!)
[2014-06-21 19:58:25] Stratum detected new block
[2014-06-21 19:58:25] GPU #0: GeForce GTX 750 Ti, 2573 khash/s

so is this right?

4x is an rough estimate for AMD GPUs. NVIDIA ratio is indeed different. If you are getting 10x then you'll need to do some extra math to figure out your profitability against LTC, if you care about that. Or just enjoy

[haploid23]

You are going to get 20+MHs on X11, and reduce power costs running GPU.  Look at stats page for X11
For help with 280x and 7950 I made a post with my config ... looking for it now.

5mh/s of scrypt would be APPROXIMATELY 20mh/s of x11... it differs a bit depending on what kind of GPUs you are using. But I also moved 5mh/s of scrypt GPUs over to x11 and am getting right around 20mh/s now. As far as profitability... you can very easily compare algos at the top of the wafflepool stats pages. It's got all 3 algos listed and their profit vs litecoin. x11 is currently a bit higher than everything but it changes frequently. Another thing that's nice is that x11 uses about half the power that scrypt does. So you'll at least save money on electricity.

Many thanks for answering the questions. I see currently that scrypt is 170% of LTC, and x11 is 215% of LTC. What confuses me is that x11 algo is about 4x increase in hash over scrypt, so when these percentages increase over LTC is calculated, does that already take into account the 4x increase using the same AMD hardware? So what I'm really trying to ask, is if 5mh/s scrypt and 20mh/s x11 is the current stats on wafflepool (170% and 215% of LTC, respectively), or is it assuming 5mh/s scrypt and 5mh/s x11 is the states at the top?

[suchmoon]

You are going to get 20+MHs on X11, and reduce power costs running GPU.  Look at stats page for X11
For help with 280x and 7950 I made a post with my config ... looking for it now.

5mh/s of scrypt would be APPROXIMATELY 20mh/s of x11... it differs a bit depending on what kind of GPUs you are using. But I also moved 5mh/s of scrypt GPUs over to x11 and am getting right around 20mh/s now. As far as profitability... you can very easily compare algos at the top of the wafflepool stats pages. It's got all 3 algos listed and their profit vs litecoin. x11 is currently a bit higher than everything but it changes frequently. Another thing that's nice is that x11 uses about half the power that scrypt does. So you'll at least save money on electricity.

Many thanks for answering the questions. I see currently that scrypt is 170% of LTC, and x11 is 215% of LTC. What confuses me is that x11 algo is about 4x increase in hash over scrypt, so when these percentages increase over LTC is calculated, does that already take into account the 4x increase using the same AMD hardware? So what I'm really trying to ask, is if 5mh/s scrypt and 20mh/s x11 is the current stats on wafflepool (170% and 215% of LTC, respectively), or is it assuming 5mh/s scrypt and 5mh/s x11 is the states at the top?

The "vs LTC" percentage already includes the 4x ratio, so it is - roughly - apples to apples comparison for AMD GPUs. Other stats (e.g. BTC / 1MH ) are not adjusted by that ratio.

[GoldBit89]

is everyone sure that for x11 it is 4 x of script? I was mining with a 750 ti evga  superclocked from factory at 1305MHz and getting 250-260 khashes script using latest cuda miner and with no fine tuning or anything, just using wafflepool config setup using latest ccminer im averaging 2.5 to 2.6 mhashes which would be 10 times of script. And all this is running at 54C for 19 hours now.

[ ] GPU #0: GeForce GTX 750 Ti, 2548 khash/s
[ ] accepted: 1846/1849 (99.84%), 2548 khash/s (yay!!!)
[ ] Stratum detected new block
[ ] GPU #0: GeForce GTX 750 Ti, 2597 khash/s
[ ] GPU #0: GeForce GTX 750 Ti, 2452 khash/s
[ ] accepted: 1847/1850 (99.84%), 2452 khash/s (yay!!!)
[ ] Stratum detected new block
[ ] GPU #0: GeForce GTX 750 Ti, 2573 khash/s

so is this right?

4x is an rough estimate for AMD GPUs. NVIDIA ratio is indeed different. If you are getting 10x then you'll need to do some extra math to figure out your profitability against LTC, if you care about that. Or just enjoy

Ok Thank you very much.

[utahjohn]

Looks like we are having a great run with guerillacoin Hope it lasts

[Spacewide]

Found that Wafflepool is one if not the most stable around (at least for my Gridseeds) after trying out severel others.

There is a good website where you can rate wafflepool, i just did

http://poolpicker.eu/reviews?pool=WafflePool

I must agree on this one.
Tested many around.

Good job, poolowner.