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Author Topic: [POOL][Scrypt][Scrypt-N][X11] Profit switching pool - wafflepool.com  (Read 465706 times)
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June 23, 2014, 02:26:35 PM
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Oh rejection Rate also skyrocketing, somethings wrong maybe  Huh

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June 23, 2014, 02:45:44 PM
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Oh rejection Rate also skyrocketing, somethings wrong maybe  Huh

My reject rate is unchanged on all my rigs.
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June 23, 2014, 02:54:40 PM
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Supposedly waffle pool has 233k left to dump, get your buy orders ready everyone! Cheesy

About 300k according to their stats page, we'll just have to hang in a bit longer.

I don't understand because when pow ended last night it was about 60k unconfirmed

If POW on guerilla ended why are we still mining it?
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June 23, 2014, 02:58:44 PM
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Supposedly waffle pool has 233k left to dump, get your buy orders ready everyone! Cheesy

About 300k according to their stats page, we'll just have to hang in a bit longer.

I don't understand because when pow ended last night it was about 60k unconfirmed

If POW on guerilla ended why are we still mining it?

Working on it now.  Unfortunately, when we added it, it was set for 10k blocks of POW.  At some point it changed to 6k blocks (and I didn't see the change).  Looks like about 5hrs on the wrong fork (figuring it out now).

Balances will be incorrect while it is getting fixed.
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June 23, 2014, 03:03:17 PM
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Supposedly waffle pool has 233k left to dump, get your buy orders ready everyone! Cheesy

About 300k according to their stats page, we'll just have to hang in a bit longer.

I don't understand because when pow ended last night it was about 60k unconfirmed

If POW on guerilla ended why are we still mining it?

Working on it now.  Unfortunately, when we added it, it was set for 10k blocks of POW.  At some point it changed to 6k blocks (and I didn't see the change).  Looks like about 5hrs on the wrong fork (figuring it out now).

Balances will be incorrect while it is getting fixed.

Oh damn, doesn't sound good at all.
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June 23, 2014, 03:03:59 PM
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waffle, please respond:

this is what you put on wafflepool.com:
Sorry for the stats hiccup and delay in payouts, everything should be corrected/paid at this point. About 10 minutes of shares were lost, the rest are credited.


But so far my hash rates and earnings havent changed for hours...


Are you recording in background shares/ hashrate history since your pool is open for connections.
If not , i m going to loose a lot (since i have many rigs pointed to your pool)...
hope your professional attitude proven in the past, will not allow people to lose money with you.

BR

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June 23, 2014, 03:10:28 PM
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I read a:

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Looks like guerillacoin forked, working on it now.

on the website.
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June 23, 2014, 03:16:10 PM
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I read a:

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Looks like guerillacoin forked, working on it now.

on the website.

Now it is changed...
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June 23, 2014, 03:25:19 PM
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I read a:

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Looks like guerillacoin forked, working on it now.

on the website.

Now it is changed...

Poolwaffle also posted about it a few posts before yours.  Pays to read before you post.

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June 23, 2014, 03:29:29 PM
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Just glad that I don't have to do anything...

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June 23, 2014, 03:31:18 PM
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I read a:

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Looks like guerillacoin forked, working on it now.

on the website.

Now it is changed...

Poolwaffle also posted about it a few posts before yours.  Pays to read before you post.

yeah, it was actually posted while i was writing a post
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June 23, 2014, 03:51:17 PM
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On waffle Unconfirmed: 307,501.24843422 GUE    Approx Value: 15.74127304 BTC

Ouch! I switched off to Diamondcoin mining last night so hopefully my loss on waffle will not be too bad ...
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June 23, 2014, 04:38:09 PM
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looks like a lot of people live on mining.
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June 23, 2014, 04:49:46 PM
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waffle, please respond:

this is what you put on wafflepool.com:
Sorry for the stats hiccup and delay in payouts, everything should be corrected/paid at this point. About 10 minutes of shares were lost, the rest are credited.


But so far my hash rates and earnings havent changed for hours...


Are you recording in background shares/ hashrate history since your pool is open for connections.
If not , i m going to loose a lot (since i have many rigs pointed to your pool)...
hope your professional attitude proven in the past, will not allow people to lose money with you.

BR



Stuff happens.  The devs of GUE forked the coin out from under everyone.  Not Wafflepool's fault or anyone's for that matter.

Welcome to Crypto - there is no FDIC.
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June 23, 2014, 05:05:11 PM
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Ok, so I've got an update for you guys, sorry for the delay, its been a rough 24hrs.

Basically, everything started with a bad database upgrade for X13 compatability.  Our DB is very tightly tuned for normal memory usage, and while in testing everything worked fine, the change put us just over the memory usage we should have been at, causing some swapping (disk usage instead of memory), causing slow enough performance to require a rollback and restart.  The next 6hrs or so were spent making sure everything was running correctly.  Because basically everything uses the DB, and we try to do as much in parallel as possible, its not as simple as "restart the script", so its a matter of restarting services in the right order, and getting everything back up and running takes a bit.  DB failure is basically the worst type of failure (and this is the first time its ever happened in our ~6 month time lifetime), so it took a bit longer to make sure everything was working properly.

By the end of all the DB fixes, and getting (almost) everything working, it was way past sleep time, and I headed to bed.  Only to be awakened 3 different times from DDOS attacks, and an unrelated server failure.  DDOS attacks are pretty normal, we get them 3-4x per week.  We do some magic, fight them off, and nothing is really visible to the miners outside of a bit higher latency (~50ms) during the attack.  Same thing last night, just a few in a row, making the lack of sleep a bit worse.

By the time I got up this morning, it was very clear there were 2 remaining issues.

1) A piece of our share processor didn't get reset, and was still using an old db cache.
- For the vast majority of users, this had no effect, your account address was already cached, and everything went fine.  However, if you were new to WP, or switched addresses in the last ~12hrs, it wasn't getting updated properly, and thus saw your address as "invalid".  Unfortunately at this point, there isn't much I can do about it.  We discard invalid address shares pretty low down to prevent against attacks we've had to deal with in the past.  I'm really sorry this happened, and as far as I know, this is the first time we've had something like this happen.  Everything should be fixed now, and it has been noted in my disaster recovery logs, so it shouldn't happen again.

2) We mined about 5hrs of a GuerillaCoin fork.
- GuerillaCoin got an update about 48hrs ago that changed the last POW block from 10k to 6k.  I saw the change log (https://github.com/guerillacoin/guerillacoin/commit/23b538d944ac1927d6c8273ea37b38584f36c69e), but didn't see the block number change.  I unfortunately went to their forum thread, and read this sentence describing the 1.0.1 update:
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Update - 20.33 UTC 22/06/2014
It has come to our attention that some users that downloaded the Windows wallet from github have been having synching issues. So we'd like to request that all our Windows users make sure they have the right version of the wallet, and if not redownload their wallet (this only applies if you have a version other than v1.0.1.1-1-gb8df644-beta under help->debug window)

So in short
only applies to windows users that downloaded their wallet from github
does not apply to mac users
does not apply to linux users
does not apply to windows users that downloaded their wallet from the sendspace linked at guerillacoin.com
applies if staking before block 6000

Saw the "does not apply to linux users", and went on my way.  Which led to us not having the latest release, and mining on the fork.  It has been updated to the latest, and invalid blocks processed/orphaned, so balances should be correct.  Its just going to end up being a decent hit on the stats for the day.

For those of you who have been mining here a while, you know this isn't very common at all (we haven't had any sizable problems in months), and for those of you new here, sorry you had to see that early on (it really doesn't happen often).

tldr: Bad upgrades, DDOS attacks, lack of sleep, terrible patch notes, bad me.  Everything fixed, sorry about that.
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June 23, 2014, 05:08:38 PM
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From guerillacoin forum:

It has come to our attention that some users are having difficulty syncing to the network.  We believe this is due to the network being flooded with invalid blocs by large multipools which did not keep an eye on the numerous announcements about the hard fork.  The network is intact and coins are secure however we will be releasing a checkpointed wallet very shortly to ensure the best user experience for all.  To be on the safe side please keep an eye on the thread and be ready to update.  We are compiling binaries now and the source is already updated on github. https://github.com/guerillacoin/guerillacoin

Binaries:
http://www.sendspace.com/filegroup/7JpCEif1wNqaJp%2BE50mr86cXW7Out6pQ
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June 23, 2014, 05:18:23 PM
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From guerillacoin forum:

It has come to our attention that some users are having difficulty syncing to the network.  We believe this is due to the network being flooded with invalid blocs by large multipools which did not keep an eye on the numerous announcements about the hard fork.  The network is intact and coins are secure however we will be releasing a checkpointed wallet very shortly to ensure the best user experience for all.  To be on the safe side please keep an eye on the thread and be ready to update.  We are compiling binaries now and the source is already updated on github. https://github.com/guerillacoin/guerillacoin

Binaries:
http://www.sendspace.com/filegroup/7JpCEif1wNqaJp%2BE50mr86cXW7Out6pQ

The "numerous announcements" all within the span of 2 days.  We watch 92 different coins (just checked github), my github updates email box is packed, and with patch notes like "1.0.1" and "does not apply to linux users"...

I'm certainly not trying to say this falls on anyone but me.  I should have seen the update, I should have updated the daemon/blockchain, and we should have been mining on the correct fork.  But in my opinion, 2 days update time, with "announcements" like "does not apply to [your platform]", is a bit rediculous.
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June 23, 2014, 05:28:53 PM
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tldr: Bad upgrades, DDOS attacks, lack of sleep, terrible patch notes, bad me.  Everything fixed, sorry about that.

Does #1 mean that new users/addresses won't get paid for the ~12h?

As for the guerilla fork, there is nothing you can do except maybe in the future pay extra attention to the POS (pun intended) coin release notes, but these short notice forks are becoming very common, so we are bound to get hit by it once in a while. I think we still made a good profit over the last couple of days even with the wrong fork.
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June 23, 2014, 05:39:52 PM
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Does #1 mean that new users/addresses won't get paid for the ~12h?
Correct
Essentially, we saw them as "invalid" immediately, and discarded them.

As for the guerilla fork, there is nothing you can do except maybe in the future pay extra attention to the POS (pun intended) coin release notes, but these short notice forks are becoming very common, so we are bound to get hit by it once in a while. I think we still made a good profit over the last couple of days even with the wrong fork.

Yep.  They happen all the time, normally we catch them, just in this case we didn't.  Its probably time to go through and trim down the list of watched github repos (still have things in there like asiacoin, that ended POW long ago).  Might make it a bit easier to sort through and catch them easier.
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June 23, 2014, 05:52:27 PM
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Please read this post as a matter of constructive critics.
Everything is nice while it is nice...

If any incident arise in production, it is your duty to preserve production (focus out from developing) and to protect your clients (unless you are doing it for free).

I asked you for API stat few pages ago...
So there are type of your clients who are not even visiting your website for checking progress, you should think about them too (at least send signal with message if you put on website).

In order to avoid forks - or at least to have indicator when something is not right, I suggest you to add maybe some indicator when confirmation of coin / exchange / exchange volume are not in alignment  - this will help at least to catch fork much faster then 5 hours after. (not big deal to create) - but can save hash power ...

Can you please explain difference in between stat:
http://wafflepool.com/stats/x11

Jun 23, 2014 (partial)   6.75425169   34.50 GH/s   0.00026793   81% - actual? (what price bid/ask/last what exchange? )

and

 x11   Hashrate: 40.93 GH/s   Mining: fractalcoin   vsLTC: 151% (in upper right corner) - avg 24hrs ?


It would be good if you point on your website that it is clients responsibility to keep an eye of forks and other updates, and that you are not taking any responsibility, that way people would be more careful and hopefully avoid today's scenario.

It was a bad day for me, but I will be more careful in the future...

BR
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