[ANN][RIC] Riecoin: constellations POW *CPU* HARD FORK successful, world record

[bidji29]

[15:08] jh00: @coinhunter not really, but I want to launch Riecoin support before I go to bed in 14 hours

jh00 is the owner of ypool


He also said there is huge improvment possible in the Riecoin algo, up to 100x perf

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[SkillRoad]

has anyone found some coins here? i was mining 24 h and no luck

Yes, I found a 35 RIC block with my i7 4770 (before block 1152), since then, nothing. 

do you mine with wallet or standalone miner?

With the official standalone miner (win64).

[6strings]

You'll need more than $100 credit... there was someone with 120K cores on AWS, costing $1,200 an HOUR, and he wasn't finding much

this is what i'v been thinking lately :


    

Good you've only been thinking it , not writing it down , cause man , is this a blasphemy towards the English language.

well ......... people see what i ment with this right ?

By millionaire you mean $100 USD and an AWS account?

Edit: And I forgot, Amazon will give a free $100 evaluation credit.

Can you pm me where to get this credit? The power of 60 promo seems to be over.

[CSM00]

You'll need more than $100 credit... there was someone with 120K cores on AWS, costing $1,200 an HOUR, and he wasn't finding much

this is what i'v been thinking lately :


    

Good you've only been thinking it , not writing it down , cause man , is this a blasphemy towards the English language.

well ......... people see what i ment with this right ?

By millionaire you mean $100 USD and an AWS account?

Edit: And I forgot, Amazon will give a free $100 evaluation credit.

Can you pm me where to get this credit? The power of 60 promo seems to be over.

I was thinking of the Powerof60 credit - I actually used that for "real" work (EMR) a long time ago, didnt know it had went away.

[cabin]

Current n-1 improvement (already mentioned elsewhere):

Run rminerd with a larger sieve.  12% improvement in going from 1Mb (default) to 2Mb on xeon class machines (i.e with large caches).  For example

Code:

./rminerd -q -o http://10.10.10.10:28332 -O awallet:apassword -t 8 -i 2097152 

Regards,

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bsunau7

Next n-1 improvement is a small one (1-2% depending on how sieve size used) and was found before I focused on the time critical code:

Replace all

Code:

  if( mpz_probab_prime_p ( bnTarget, MR_TESTS) )

With

Code:

  if( mpz_millerrabin ( bnTarget, MR_TESTS) )

mpz_probab_prime_p is a wrapper around mpz_millerrabin which includes tests for small primes.  The sieve which riecoin uses has already sieved the numbers so no need to double sieve.

I would expect this to make more than a few % points on small memory systems.

Regards,

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bsunau7

could you compile a windows version pls ?

I compiled a windows version of the fermat build if you want to give it a try:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/hz6ns6s85silqw0/cpuminer-rminerd-fermat.zip

So far it is the fastest variation I have found. It is based on this code:
https://github.com/iddumied/cpuminer-rminerd-fermat

[paulus51]

Current n-1 improvement (already mentioned elsewhere):

Run rminerd with a larger sieve.  12% improvement in going from 1Mb (default) to 2Mb on xeon class machines (i.e with large caches).  For example

Code:

./rminerd -q -o http://10.10.10.10:28332 -O awallet:apassword -t 8 -i 2097152 

Regards,

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bsunau7

Next n-1 improvement is a small one (1-2% depending on how sieve size used) and was found before I focused on the time critical code:

Replace all

Code:

  if( mpz_probab_prime_p ( bnTarget, MR_TESTS) )

With

Code:

  if( mpz_millerrabin ( bnTarget, MR_TESTS) )

mpz_probab_prime_p is a wrapper around mpz_millerrabin which includes tests for small primes.  The sieve which riecoin uses has already sieved the numbers so no need to double sieve.

I would expect this to make more than a few % points on small memory systems.

Regards,

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bsunau7

could you compile a windows version pls ?

I compiled a windows version of the fermat build if you want to give it a try:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/hz6ns6s85silqw0/cpuminer-rminerd-fermat.zip

So far it is the fastest variation I have found. It is based on this code:
https://github.com/iddumied/cpuminer-rminerd-fermat

ok i am testing now , thanks i let you know how it works out, btw now 95 mhash/s

[ikom]

What value are u using for the --max-prime? Using --benchmark I got the best results (number of found blocks, not knumber/s) with --max-prime=100
Feel free to donate if this helps to you

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[Hoshiz]

Run 48 cores since the lauch. 1 Block found 50 coins, i need to do somenthing or the coins send automatic to the wallet?.

Sorry for the bad english... thx 

[Lubliana777]

Riecoin has been listed on Newaltex.com (RIE/BTC)

https://www.newaltex.com/exchange/rie_btc

Help us increase the trading volume

[cabin]

What value are u using for the --max-prime? Using --benchmark I got the best results (number of found blocks, not knumber/s) with --max-prime=100
Feel free to donate if this helps to you

RIC RT6Yu5tK3FNrW9m6vb4WUc6Wk5j3VPp6fR

I've been using 11000. Gives me stats like these on a slow duo core:

[2014-02-13 12:03:20] Expected days to block: 91.6 337.5 2-chains/hour
[2014-02-13 12:03:20] accepted: 0 of 0 in 31 seconds
[2014-02-13 12:03:29] thread 0: 914358273 hashes, 90 Mh/s
[2014-02-13 12:03:29] thread 1: 854589441 hashes, 90 Mh/s

I think if it is too low you will get a lot of false positives for primes.

[truckythin]

Riecoin has been listed on Newaltex.com (RIE/BTC)

https://www.newaltex.com/exchange/rie_btc

Help us increase the trading volume

oh no, pls DONT ADD THIS COIN, we only prefer cryptsy or bter or mcxnow.
i'm very afraid of small exchange with ton of zero, it could kill the potential coin.

[Supercomputing]

So difficulty is currently at 774 bits or 234 decimal digits and I haven't found a block in over 24 hours. At this number size, expect about one (1) out of every 540 integers to be prime. Well, until we optimize the segmented sieve of Eratosthenes further for finding prime sextuplets, it is back to Primecoin mining for me. The miners released with this coin are a joke.

So many people have pointed out that unless you have massive amounts of processing power, this coin is not for you. It is a shame because a lot of people will be left out.

It is going to be interesting to see how a pool miner will be implemented - there are a lot of  2 - 4 chains, but very few 5 - 6 chains.

[Lubliana777]

Riecoin has been listed on Newaltex.com (RIE/BTC)

https://www.newaltex.com/exchange/rie_btc

Help us increase the trading volume

oh no, pls DONT ADD THIS COIN, we only prefer cryptsy or bter or mcxnow.
i'm very afraid of small exchange with ton of zero, it could kill the potential coin.

This makes no sense at all, please elaborate.

[dga]

So difficulty is currently at 774 bits or 234 decimal digits and I haven't found a block in over 24 hours. At this number size, expect about one (1) out of every 540 integers to be prime. Well, until we optimize the segmented sieve of Eratosthenes further for finding prime sextuplets, it is back to Primecoin mining for me. The miners released with this coin are a joke.

So many people have pointed out that unless you have massive amounts of processing power, this coin is not for you. It is a shame because a lot of people will be left out.

It is going to be interesting to see how a pool miner will be implemented - there are a lot of  2 - 4 chains, but very few 5 - 6 chains.

EECS in your .signature tag and not interested in doing the optimization? *grins*  If only the release happened during IAP.

The difficulty is high, but - solo mining is hard, period.  An optimized sieve won't change the difficulty of solo mining.

What the optimized sieve will do is level the playing field.  Right now there's a factor of 14x difference, at least, between the best private miners and the released one.  It's great fun for people who like to tweak the code, but probably not the best long-term thing for the coin.

[jl777]

Riecoin has been listed on Newaltex.com (RIE/BTC)

https://www.newaltex.com/exchange/rie_btc

Help us increase the trading volume

poloniex would be a much better  small exchange to be on. they have google authenticator 2FA and Tristan the dev is top notch. You can email him poloniex@gmail.com and ask to add RIE (or is it RIC?)

[paulus51]

LOL ? is this funny or what ??


are we all mining for others ??




{
"height" : 2284,
"bestblock" : "5985761e09c43d6692e5125dc89779d8a746778106ea0d5ed090027b1a8909d0",
"transactions" : 2120,
"txouts" : 2172,
"bytes_serialized" : 148284,
"hash_serialized" : "c9c648d7272b2c387c01e0bdab2fc9985fd3f72afdcf6625742cb21b2c65cf98",
"total_amount" : 71024.99999744
}

[jl777]

Is there a blockchain scanner?

If we are already on block 2284 -> 2284 * 2.5 min = ~4 days
It seems that blocks are being found more than twice as fast as expected.

Still 70,000 coins in first 2 days doesnt seem like that many, especially considering the number of people mining it.

[keepwalking1234]

hi

everybody

although we are listed on a exchange platform, but it’s a new platform.

so do not sell all your coins, the platform do not have so many user to buy RIE！

[crendore]

LOL ? is this funny or what ??


are we all mining for others ??




{
"height" : 2284,
"bestblock" : "5985761e09c43d6692e5125dc89779d8a746778106ea0d5ed090027b1a8909d0",
"transactions" : 2120,
"txouts" : 2172,
"bytes_serialized" : 148284,
"hash_serialized" : "c9c648d7272b2c387c01e0bdab2fc9985fd3f72afdcf6625742cb21b2c65cf98",
"total_amount" : 71024.99999744
}

How is this even possible?

Since this is a new PoW, it is very hard to define a starting difficulty that avoids instamining. To overcome this and contribute to a fair launch, the first 576 blocks will have no reward and the next 576 will linearly increase and reach the full reward at block 1152, after 4 difficulty adjustments were performed. Besides avoiding instamining, this should allow time for those who want to compile their own clients.

This mean, for the first 576 blocks no reward. then there was essentially 1/2 of 50 per block for the next 576 blocks.
So total coins right now: 14400 + 56600 = 71000

Ohhh i get it now. that's the total amount of coins in existence, not the total amount of transfer in that block.

[paulus51]

well i dont know muts about this all but you can see for your self in console
type :   gettxoutsetinfo   <enter>

results :

{
"height" : 2286,
"bestblock" : "bdecef8a7979e6f5dd9061ee58824830708744b57bb34ad6e5dae3ce030774dc",
"transactions" : 2123,
"txouts" : 2175,
"bytes_serialized" : 148458,
"hash_serialized" : "e560084d0d4564daac0ef2e46540780d5a72e1692ebaf96b638ab897955ae482",
"total_amount" : 71124.99999744
}


so in my eyes strange right ? or do i miss something here?