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If they do cancel the season though the best thing to do would just be to pay out the winners as the table is now. You are talking about the premier league table? I do not see that will be a big problem coz we already had 29 rounds out of 38 which means more than 2/3 matches were played. Most of all, the season winner is Liverpool of course. You do realise I'm not the chairman of the FA? ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
I received an email from Superbru, you probably all got it. I see no reason why we not to adhere to them, we have enough points for that.
That's easy for you to say, Mr Fourth Place ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) . I do agree with you though. If the league is cancelled we'll just go with the current standings. I'm joint fifth but technically sixth on the table. I wonder how they work out the ties, because I have 123 exact results and hahay has only 99, but he has more "close" results at 109.5 to my 85.5, but surely exact results should count for more. We both have the exact same number of results and also slam points as well so not sure how that works out. Does anyone know if there's an explanation of it anywhere? I'm really hoping this whole coronabullshit blows over and the games just get rescheduled. Imagine if they null and void the entire leagues and Liverpool lose out on the title and teams like Leeds don't get promoted. What a pisstake.
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That's easy for you to say, Mr Fourth Place ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) . I do agree with you though. If the league is cancelled we'll just go with the current standings. I'm joint fifth but technically sixth on the table. I wonder how they work out the ties, because I have 123 exact results and hahay has only 99, but he has more "close" results at 109.5 to my 85.5, but surely exact results should count for more. We both have the exact same number of results and also slam points as well so not sure how that works out. Does anyone know if there's an explanation of it anywhere? I think the user who has less wrong results have an advantage. I see this on global rank when more than one user has 5 exact scores and the user with less wrong predict to get the award. it seemed logical to me then, I guess you think that is not right, there is competition for the exact score, but it can be important if someone predicts a winner but do not predict a lot of goals rather than someone who picks on the wrong horse.
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March 17, 2020, 12:08:02 PM |
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I'm really hoping this whole coronabullshit blows over and the games just get rescheduled. Imagine if they null and void the entire leagues and Liverpool lose out on the title and teams like Leeds don't get promoted. What a pisstake.
Rescheduling the matches after this corona bullshit blows over is only completely fair solution. Move the EURO as far as needed and finish the leagues. In case this corona stuff really stops the world for a longer period of time and leagues have to be cancelled I believe that the solution will be to award European spots/ titles as per current standing. Nobody gets relegated and 2 teams get promoted for next season. That seems like the most fair solution with smallest amount of clubs which will feel screwed over.
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March 17, 2020, 12:25:31 PM |
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I'm really hoping this whole coronabullshit blows over and the games just get rescheduled. Imagine if they null and void the entire leagues and Liverpool lose out on the title and teams like Leeds don't get promoted. What a pisstake.
Rescheduling the matches after this corona bullshit blows over is only completely fair solution. Move the EURO as far as needed and finish the leagues. In case this corona stuff really stops the world for a longer period of time and leagues have to be cancelled I believe that the solution will be to award European spots/ titles as per current standing. Nobody gets relegated and 2 teams get promoted for next season. That seems like the most fair solution with smallest amount of clubs which will feel screwed over. Well I think rescheduling the games should be what they do and that's also likely what they'll want to do, but if the conroavirus thing is going to go on for months or even possibly years then there's no time for that and pretty much nothing they can do about it. The trouble is teams will still complain about what teams get promoted. Take the Championship for example. There's no guarantees that Leeds and West Brom will stay in the automatic promotion spots and then there's the play-off places. If no teams get relegated from the Premier League then there's going to be three extra teams in the league and I think that's why if they don't reschedule games they might void the league entirely out of fairness, unless there's some play off games for the relegation teams and Euro places or something. What a farce. I'm hoping in a months time it just turns out that we blew this out of proportion.
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I'm pretty sure Superbru works out ties by doing head-to-head on global scores. That is, how many times you've done better than the other guy. I'm actually not sure that's correct but I do recall reading it. I personally think exact scores should be rewarded more than 3 points but that's probably because I have a relatively high exact score by picking risky lines heh. I'm not sure what's going to happen but if EURO 2020 is really postponed to next year, that gives Europe a chance to play out the leagues. Here's a lovely story for the day friends. I love Firmino a lot and his smile... turns out it really is what he's been doing all his life: https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/51815586
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If they do cancel the season though the best thing to do would just be to pay out the winners as the table is now. You are talking about the premier league table? I do not see that will be a big problem coz we already had 29 rounds out of 38 which means more than 2/3 matches were played. Most of all, the season winner is Liverpool of course. You do realise I'm not the chairman of the FA? ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
I received an email from Superbru, you probably all got it. I see no reason why we not to adhere to them, we have enough points for that.
That's easy for you to say, Mr Fourth Place ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) . I do agree with you though. If the league is cancelled we'll just go with the current standings. I'm joint fifth but technically sixth on the table. I wonder how they work out the ties, because I have 123 exact results and hahay has only 99, but he has more "close" results at 109.5 to my 85.5, but surely exact results should count for more. We both have the exact same number of results and also slam points as well so not sure how that works out. Does anyone know if there's an explanation of it anywhere? I'm really hoping this whole coronabullshit blows over and the games just get rescheduled. Imagine if they null and void the entire leagues and Liverpool lose out on the title and teams like Leeds don't get promoted. What a pisstake. That would really suck. I'm looking forward to see Bielsa manage at the EPL. And it would def suck for Liverpool, Klopp (who worked sooo hard) and esp. the fans if the season was scrapped. And it would suck for me. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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Euro 2020 has been suspended & will now take place in the summer of 2021. UEFA made this decision to enable all the domestic leagues time to finish. I think it’s the best decision for everybody.
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Euro 2020 has been suspended & will now take place in the summer of 2021. UEFA made this decision to enable all the domestic leagues time to finish. I think it’s the best decision for everybody.
We can expect the leagues to reschedule now and seasons to end normally. This was a good call in my opinion, Euro would be risky anyway - riskier than league games. Also - Italy is a host nation which would not be possible this season for sure.
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Euro 2020 has been suspended & will now take place in the summer of 2021. UEFA made this decision to enable all the domestic leagues time to finish. I think it’s the best decision for everybody.
That's the best decision to take, I'd say, saving the current season which has been underway for a tournament which has commenced yet, Let's now hope, the Covid-19 outbreak can be brought under control within a good time frame for the season to complete normally, if not then pushing the Euro 2020 further away by 12 months would be all for nothing.
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I'm really hoping this whole coronabullshit blows over and the games just get rescheduled. Imagine if they null and void the entire leagues and Liverpool lose out on the title and teams like Leeds don't get promoted. What a pisstake.
That would really suck. I'm looking forward to see Bielsa manage at the EPL. And it would def suck for Liverpool, Klopp (who worked sooo hard) and esp. the fans if the season was scrapped. Yeah. He'll probably leave if he doesn't get them up this season. Did you watch the documentary they did for the previous one? I hope they're doing a second season for this one. Euro 2020 has been suspended & will now take place in the summer of 2021. UEFA made this decision to enable all the domestic leagues time to finish. I think it’s the best decision for everybody.
We can expect the leagues to reschedule now and seasons to end normally. This was a good call in my opinion, Euro would be risky anyway - riskier than league games. I wouldn't be so sure. Just because they've postponed the EUROs doesn't necessarily mean the Premier League games will go ahead in that time. The way everyone is panicking over here I don't think it's something that is going to be resolved within a few months unless it becomes clear within a month or two that it's been blown out or proportion and they then decide to play them.
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I wouldn't be so sure. Just because they've postponed the EUROs doesn't necessarily mean the Premier League games will go ahead in that time. The way everyone is panicking over here I don't think it's something that is going to be resolved within a few months unless it becomes clear within a month or two that it's been blown out or proportion and they then decide to play them.
Well, it has to finish, no? I do not know when, but legally it would be too many issues if they do not finish the season. If the situation with the virus does not improve by then, I fully expect the season to continue behind closed doors. By then the quarantined players will recover and would be ready to continue playing.
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I wouldn't be so sure. Just because they've postponed the EUROs doesn't necessarily mean the Premier League games will go ahead in that time. The way everyone is panicking over here I don't think it's something that is going to be resolved within a few months unless it becomes clear within a month or two that it's been blown out or proportion and they then decide to play them.
Well, it has to finish, no? I do not know when, but legally it would be too many issues if they do not finish the season. If the situation with the virus does not improve by then, I fully expect the season to continue behind closed doors. By then the quarantined players will recover and would be ready to continue playing. Well I don't know what has to happen, but there's certainly been talk of voiding the league but that could just be speculation or just plain fud. I don't know legally what would happen if they did that but I suspect there'd be lawsuits and I think the top few clubs of the Championship have already voiced their concerns about that. Of course the most sensible thing to do would be to play the games at some point and I'm sure that's what they're aiming for but if everyone is in lockdown for months I don't see how that will work. I guess things will become more clear over the next couple of months depending on how the disease/panic spreads.
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I get what you mean, it's just when I put a 'has to finish' and 'can be forfeit' list next to each other, the first one gives clear and concise answers to all questions/doubts while the other one comes down to pure speculation. If the league is cancelled, it is a lot more fair to a club like Aston Villa than it is to a club like Leicester for example. I can assume there would be lawsuits too. It would even be fairer to start from current positions in August than to cancel the season. And I'm not saying that as a Liverpool fan, for me the title is won and even if they don't award us one I'll forever boast with it and count it ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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I’m sure no one in football wants the season to finish like this . The EPL, FA, players, sponsors and fans would be in uproar. Even Liverpool fans wouldn’t want to win the title in this manner - they would be known as the Corona Kings ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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I get what you mean, it's just when I put a 'has to finish' and 'can be forfeit' list next to each other, the first one gives clear and concise answers to all questions/doubts while the other one comes down to pure speculation. If the league is cancelled, it is a lot more fair to a club like Aston Villa than it is to a club like Leicester for example. I can assume there would be lawsuits too. It would even be fairer to start from current positions in August than to cancel the season. And I'm not saying that as a Liverpool fan, for me the title is won and even if they don't award us one I'll forever boast with it and count it ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) The season WILL finish, I see so many LFC fans panicking at the moment. There is an obligation for all leagues to finish, there’s so much to decide plus TV companies have broadcasting contracts that need fulfilling.
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I'm really hoping this whole coronabullshit blows over and the games just get rescheduled. Imagine if they null and void the entire leagues and Liverpool lose out on the title and teams like Leeds don't get promoted. What a pisstake.
That would really suck. I'm looking forward to see Bielsa manage at the EPL. And it would def suck for Liverpool, Klopp (who worked sooo hard) and esp. the fans if the season was scrapped. Yeah. He'll probably leave if he doesn't get them up this season. Did you watch the documentary they did for the previous one? I hope they're doing a second season for this one. No. But I'm not really into sports documentaries. I'll look for it and take a peek tho and see if I'll like it. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) What's the title?
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Yeah. He'll probably leave if he doesn't get them up this season. Did you watch the documentary they did for the previous one? I hope they're doing a second season for this one.
No. But I'm not really into sports documentaries. I'll look for it and take a peek tho and see if I'll like it. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) What's the title? Take Us Home: Leeds United. It's on Amazon if you have that: https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07WLCN7DR/ref=dvm_uk_sl_tit|c_419893660034_m_ne4jgpng-dc_s_ It's well done and is worth watch, but I was Leeds fan as a kid (guess I still am by default). It covers the Spygate incident and the agony of just missing out on promotion. I really hope they filmed another season. They probably filmed that one as it was likely they were going to go up but there's an even better chance this season unless they blow it again or the season gets cancelled. I get what you mean, it's just when I put a 'has to finish' and 'can be forfeit' list next to each other, the first one gives clear and concise answers to all questions/doubts while the other one comes down to pure speculation. If the league is cancelled, it is a lot more fair to a club like Aston Villa than it is to a club like Leicester for example. I can assume there would be lawsuits too. It would even be fairer to start from current positions in August than to cancel the season. And I'm not saying that as a Liverpool fan, for me the title is won and even if they don't award us one I'll forever boast with it and count it ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) The season WILL finish, I see so many LFC fans panicking at the moment. There is an obligation for all leagues to finish, there’s so much to decide plus TV companies have broadcasting contracts that need fulfilling. There will probably be clauses for unexpected things like this. Can't imagine them playing football in the middle of a war or zombie apocalypse ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) . I'm sure the games will get played at some point especially with the EUROs getting pushed back a year.
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It would even be fairer to start from current positions in August than to cancel the season. And I'm not saying that as a Liverpool fan, for me the title is won and even if they don't award us one I'll forever boast with it and count it ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Nah! I do not need and unfinished season where we already had the title. We had only two more matches to go to confirm the title but suddenly this spread. It's sad but in the mean time this is the right thing for the sake of everyone to be safe. I do not think this is going to last for very long. Soon we will see improvement and everything will gone back to normal. We will also see the matches are on the ground and will have a full season.
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@cryptofrka yeah I'm actually pretty ok with what's going on. I know it's a bummer we won't make the record of winning title so early (and make it impossible for anyone to beat) but in my mind we've won it no matter what and no one will ever make me feel bad about it for as long as I live. That said, if we never win the title after this, it will be some kind of pain to add to the mountain of pain we already have as Liverpool supporters. But we're better than that and we can fight again for the title. I think we will only get better.
@DeathAngel. I personally think contracts are easily taken care of with insurance and settlements. TV companies will be the least worried as they'll have all their profits booked in. The obligation for the leagues to finish is of course waived by force majeure so really, it's just for sporting reasons that we must find a way to finish the season.
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@cryptofrka yeah I'm actually pretty ok with what's going on. I know it's a bummer we won't make the record of winning title so early (and make it impossible for anyone to beat) but in my mind we've won it no matter what and no one will ever make me feel bad about it for as long as I live. That said, if we never win the title after this, it will be some kind of pain to add to the mountain of pain we already have as Liverpool supporters. But we're better than that and we can fight again for the title. I think we will only get better.
@DeathAngel. I personally think contracts are easily taken care of with insurance and settlements. TV companies will be the least worried as they'll have all their profits booked in. The obligation for the leagues to finish is of course waived by force majeure so really, it's just for sporting reasons that we must find a way to finish the season.
I am also feeling good for Liverpool and their fans as they was doing very good job before this break but now we have no official statement about this all as what will happen and how they will manage few roumers are creating confusion as UEFA president want to void this season this could be really painful for many supports of leading clubs.
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